Super Speeder Law

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Originally Posted by Njobe

i know that's why they should deem necessary to change the speed limit or why not pass a law saying car companies can't create such high powered cars. since they're throwing around new laws lol

i don't see much of 60s/70s cars :???:

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Just because cars can go faster doesn't mean drivers can handle them well.

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Originally Posted by Bajjani

Just because cars can go faster doesn't mean drivers can handle them well.

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no where in my posts did i state that or even come close to saying it.

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Originally Posted by quickdodge®

Or just not drive your 150mph capable car above the speed limit. HA!

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160mph lol

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Originally Posted by quickdodge®

They're there. I drive one every day. Later, QD.

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i have yet to see your car in person.

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Originally Posted by Te72Rob

Do some research. You can fight it and win. Its un-constitutional. Something about the right to be free from excessive taxes. Do your homework b4 you post up in here son

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you do realize that technically ticket fines are not actually considered taxes right?

not really a factor to me, when and if i go those speeds its ONLY when no one else is around......or with the flow of traffic going thru columbia sc, those fuckers move going thru there lol.

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Originally Posted by nreggie454

Not using your blinker is absurd. It is about 3 inches from your left hand.

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i see plenty of cops everyday going through atlanta going well over 15 miles over the posted 55 speed limit on 75. changing lanes without a blinker. and entering and exiting the carpool lane when the lines are solid.

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Originally Posted by JRJcrf150f

i see plenty of cops everyday going through atlanta going well over 15 miles over the posted 55 speed limit on 75. changing lanes without a blinker. and entering and exiting the carpool lane when the lines are solid.

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Doesn't mean it's legal to do. Later, QD.

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Originally Posted by quickdodge®

Doesn't mean it's legal to do. Later, QD.

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didn't say it was. just saying i'm not for something that most cops do on a regular basis because they are cops and can get away with it.

but if this is going into affect i would think they should re evaluate roads starting with more populated roads and adjust the speed limit. some are just ridiculously low. but chances are they wont because thats where they target and make their revenue.


government in america is one reason why i am going to move out of america.

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Originally Posted by JRJcrf150f

didn't say it was. just saying i'm not for something that most cops do on a regular basis because they are cops and can get away with it.

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File a complaint with their car number if it really grinds your gears.

yeah i plan on it i just forget to look for the number. by the time i think on getting the number there too far away

why would you go over 75 on a 2 lane road anyways? and 85 on any road, even I85 is no big deal, i stay under that anyways.

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Originally Posted by JRJcrf150f

didn't say it was. just saying i'm not for something that most cops do on a regular basis because they are cops and can get away with it.

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That's fine. I'll be happy to see you wasting all your money just because YOU feel that YOU shouldn't have to bey someone else rules.

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Originally Posted by JRJcrf150f

government in america is one reason why i am going to move out of america.

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I'll help you pack if you think you can have it made somewhere else. Remember the phrase "the grass ain't always...." Later, QD.

Found this piece and thought I'd add it in here, see what everyone's thoughts were on it. Does he have valid points?

http://www.ajc.com/opinion/neal-boor...ny-226804.html

A-FUCKING-MEN
I've been saything this since talk of the SS law hit the media. Perdue is full of shit and now he's being called out on it.


quoted and posted for the lazy.

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Originally Posted by The AJC

For a few months now I’ve been asking Gov. Sonny Perdue if he would like to take a little ride with me on I-75. Just a quick trip down to Macon and back to Atlanta.

Here’s why:

On May 5, Perdue signed the so-called “super speeder law.” The law provides for an extra $200 fine on drivers who get caught doing 85 mph or more on expressways; 75 mph or more on two-lane roads. Purdue said that the law was an “attempt to slow high-speed drivers and reduce high-speed crashes and trauma injuries.”

Nonsense.

The governor was simply trying to raise revenue. Why else the excited announcement that the new law would raise $23 million in fiscal year 2010?

If speeding killed, the countryside would be littered with dead jet pilots.

I could spend the rest of my allotted space here citing some of the studies that have shown that speeders aren’t a major cause of traffic accidents. What a yawner. The studies are out there, though. Perhaps you would like to take the time to read the National Motor Vehicle Crash Causation Survey released by the U.S. Department of Transportation on July 15, 2008.

Then again, maybe not.

If you were so inclined, you would read that speeding accounted for only 5 percent of “pre-crash events.” A Virginia DMV report said that speeding caused about 2.9 percent of crashes in 2007.

Yeah, we really need that super-speeder law.

Actually, it’s more like we need the money.

So what if Gov. Perdue does decide to take that little jaunt down to Macon and back with me?

First, I’d ask for immunity. We’re going to speed on the way down. On the way back, we’ll stick to the speed limit. Maybe I’ll get him to drive.

On the way to Macon, my goal will be to drive up to 20 mph above the posted limit. Yup — that means 90 mph, well above the super-speeder 85 mph threshold.

Here’s what the governor will see: When I encounter traffic, I’ll slow down. No tailgating. Give me an open lane, and I’ll flip on the winkers (Brit term, I love it), move over and let ’er rip.

All the way to Macon not one single driver will have to change what he or she is doing because of my driving. Not one driver will have to change lanes or slow down to avoid me. I’ll open it up when I can, go with the flow when I must.

The governor will enjoy the ride. After all, he’s a pilot and we’ll be flying low.

In Macon we’ll hit a Waffle House and fuel up. A bowl of chili and a grilled cheese ought to do it. Then, on the way back to Atlanta, we’ll crack a window and it will be speed limit all the way. I’ll hang in the second lane from the right so I don’t have to mess with merging or exiting traffic. Since I won’t be driving a Buick or a minivan, we’ll stay out of the left lane. We’ll put the governor’s head on a swivel so he can see what’s happening to the traffic around me. He’ll see other motorists having to constantly change lanes to get around me. Sometimes they’ll use signals; sometimes not. Several times he’ll see some other motorist take evasive action to get out of the way of another driver trying to get around me. By the time we get back to Atlanta we’ll both be nervous wrecks.

Speeding tickets are easy for law enforcement. Aim your radar gun, pull ’em over and write the ticket. Targeting people who change lanes without signaling, follow too close, fail to yield the right of way and who generally can’t control a car presents greater challenges in traffic court.

Look — love the cops; really do. That guy writing me a speeding ticket (haven’t had one in 15 years) would stand between me and a bullet if need be. But when he’s sitting there writing me a ticket for speeding he’s a tax collector, not a law enforcement officer.

You want to save lives, governor? Ban the use of hand-held cellphones. Not all that flashy, but it would work.


Neal Boortz’s column will appear every Saturday. For more Boortz, go to

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Cops can also show up to court late, or not at all.... and we do that and we've got a bench warrant out for us...

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Originally Posted by civicgurlie

Cops can also show up to court late, or not at all.... and we do that and we've got a bench warrant out for us...

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Don't show up late. Simple solution to a not-so-hard "problem. Later, QD.

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Originally Posted by Slomaro Z28

I don't usually do more than 10 over, but I do like to gas it to get to the speed limit.

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this

Folks, this is not a "cop is a bad guy" issue. This is a "the state needs the money so we're going to come up with a useless and worthless excuse to get some" issue. Speeding by itself is NOT the major cause of accidents, not in GA, not anywhere. It's been proven, researched, re-researched, studied, and re-studied. Far more people are hurt or worse yet killed every year on our roads from drunk drivers or elderly people going th opposite way down the Interstate or teenage/inexperienced/bad drivers than "speeding" EVER would. It's not speculation, it's a FACT. A fact that is NOT very popular because it causes each of us to look at ourselves and OUR capabilites, or lack thereof, which we all know is NEVER a good thing because people would have to admit their OWN faults.

Police are doing what they are mandated to do. Can't fault them for that. Fault the stupid politicians that put "laws" into place using false information and false pretences. That's who's really at fault here, not the guy/gal that would lose their job if they didn't do what they're TOLD to do.

:2cents:

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Originally Posted by Doppelgänger

A-FUCKING-MEN
I've been saything this since talk of the SS law hit the media. Perdue is full of shit and now he's being called out on it.


quoted and posted for the lazy.

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Oh shit. I just noticed this post after I posted mine.

Good job. Neal tells it like it is most of the time. :goodjob:

LOL @ Purdue. He's a dumbass. I saw a sign last night off 675 "speeding will cost you" 285/75 is a free for all lol. You are going slow if you're going the speed limit.

Hopefully with this ticket increase he will think to add more po po to the force to pull over these so called super speeders. If not I doubt anything will change.

i cant afford any more tickets much less if there even more

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Originally Posted by metro larev

i cant afford any more tickets much less if there even more

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Exactly... just more incentive for you to drive right. :goodjob:

I will agree with you guys that Perdue is full of shit (just on general principle) but Super Speeder is one of the very few things going on in our general assembly that I approve of.

lol i wanna see someone fight a super speeder ticket and win.

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Originally Posted by japan4racing

i was popped back in october or november for this super speeder deal...lame! cruise set on 75mph for 30 minutes, went to pass some ppl to get up to my exit and right as i eclipsed a slight hill there was a sherriff dep. clocked me at 85mph. i pulled right over and he gave me exactly 85 in a 70 on the ticket..im a super speeder now becuase i went 85mph for approx 5 seconds. now, im not saying i dont deserve a speeding ticket as i def. broke the law...but damn...i have not had a ticket in 5 years, i was not still accelerating and he would have known (i have longtube headers, no cats, and a catback on a mustang), and i pulled over as quick as i could. would it have killed the guy to drop it down 1mph and save me the $200 and the points that im sure come along with the superspeeder charge? im pissed about the whole thing really....i could go on for days about it

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i was thinking about this on the way to NJ this past week. how much faster was i going to get there by going 75-80 vs the 70-75 i was cruising at. and i did some simple quick little math in my head... and for the safty of that 5ish mph the extra 30mins... was worth it. driving from atl to just north of baltimore in full rain sometimes straight down pouring. so yeah... well worth the extra 30mins or so. rained the whole way to NJ too... great timing i know.

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Originally Posted by Total_Blender

Not everyone on the road drives a brand new vehicle. There are plenty of 1960's/1970's vehicles on the roads with bad tires and 4 wheel drum brakes. Also, aside from emissions in the Metro counties, vehicle inspections are not required. If it has 4 wheels and all the lights work, then whatever POS you find at the junkyard is probably street legal in most of the counties. :lmfao:

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umm where are you seeing all these 60s and 70s cars around... i barely see any 80s cars around. 90s a lot even then its getting less and less. but 60s and 70s cars lol i think i would notice those cars.

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Originally Posted by Doppelgänger

A-FUCKING-MEN
I've been saything this since talk of the SS law hit the media. Perdue is full of shit and now he's being called out on it.


quoted and posted for the lazy.

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yeah i heard Neal Boortz talk about this on the radio when the super speeder thing first go announced way back when. reps+ for finding it.:goodjob:

I found it, but was lazy and just posted the link instead of pasting the whole article. ;) Thank you dopple for putting in the extra effort of actually posting the whole article. :goodjob: (No sarcasm, I actually mean that).

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u...MY40/lol11.jpg

-Ant.

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Originally Posted by DirtyMechanic

umm where are you seeing all these 60s and 70s cars around.

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My driveway :bump:

Also, I see a good bit of them out on the roads, especially '70s trucks. Particularly on the 4 lanes around Cartersville, Rome, Calhoun, etc.

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Originally Posted by Total_Blender

My driveway :bump:

Also, I see a good bit of them out on the roads, especially '70s trucks. Particularly on the 4 lanes around Cartersville, Rome, Calhoun, etc.

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if you see some around the metro area let me know lol



p.s. this so called law is garbage.

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Originally Posted by Njobe

if you see some around the metro area let me know lol

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I see them all the time around metro area.

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Originally Posted by Njobe

p.s. this so called law is garbage.

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Why? Any real reason? Later, QD.

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Originally Posted by quickdodge®

I see them all the time around metro area.

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well damn, take some pics, yes?

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Originally Posted by quickdodge®

Why? Any real reason? Later, QD.

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as stated in that article, by that dude.

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Originally Posted by Njobe

well damn, take some pics, yes?

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I take pics all the time of old cars I see on the roads.

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Originally Posted by Njobe

as stated in that article, by that dude.

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No. How about you tell me your reason. Is this going to affect you and your wallet? Seriously, why do YOU think it's stupid? Later, QD.

How often do you come through Hall Co\ounty Mike? Or go through smaller towns?

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Originally Posted by quickdodge®

I take pics all the time of old cars I see on the roads.

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post them up?

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Originally Posted by quickdodge®

No. How about you tell me your reason. Is this going to affect you and your wallet? Seriously, why do YOU think it's stupid? Later, QD.

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because, if you stay the speed limit you will constantly keep getting passed by traffic. my biggest reason is most truckers speed. i have a fear of trucks running me over. so everytime i see a truck i either try to move away or speed up. in that sense, i know that one of those times i speed up a cop will be somewhere and get me. that's my main reason, other then that i know where i can go a little bit faster and where i can't.

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Originally Posted by §treet_§peed

How often do you come through Hall Co\ounty Mike? Or go through smaller towns?

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I don't go to Hall County a lot. I did when I was on the Wal-Mart account. I even went to several Gainesville Meets behind the Sonic when in that area on delivery. But on the account I'm on now, I don't go there very often at all.

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Originally Posted by Njobe

post them up?

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I have before. I have a folder that has nothing but old school Japanese cars that I actually see on the roads.

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Originally Posted by Njobe

because, if you stay the speed limit you will constantly keep getting passed by traffic. my biggest reason is most truckers speed. i have a fear of trucks running me over. so everytime i see a truck i either try to move away or speed up. in that sense, i know that one of those times i speed up a cop will be somewhere and get me. that's my main reason, other then that i know where i can go a little bit faster and where i can't.

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Lolol. Ok. So your fear is the reason behind this stupid law? Doesn't really make sense. This law is designed to at least keep speeders high speeds down some if they don't want to pay the excessively high fines. So if you're afraid of speeding truckers, wouldn't you want something in effect to try and slow those people? And alleviate these fears? Not to mention that I know FOR A FACT that most truckers don't go fast enough to be caught as a "super speeder" so it still wouldn't have any affect on you whether or not the law was here or not.

Bottom line is it doesn't make sense that you would be against something that is to slow down speeders if you're afraid of speeders. Later, QD.

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Originally Posted by quickdodge®

I have before. I have a folder that has nothing but old school Japanese cars that I actually see on the roads.

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send it my way.

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Originally Posted by quickdodge®

Lolol. Ok. So your fear is the reason behind this stupid law? Doesn't really make sense. This law is designed to at least keep speeders high speeds down some if they don't want to pay the excessively high fines. So if you're afraid of speeding truckers, wouldn't you want something in effect to try and slow those people? And alleviate these fears? Not to mention that I know FOR A FACT that most truckers don't go fast enough to be caught as a "super speeder" so it still wouldn't have any affect on you whether or not the law was here or not.

Bottom line is it doesn't make sense that you would be against something that is to slow down speeders if you're afraid of speeders. Later, QD.

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most truckers that i see on 85 or 285 go 75-85 mph and they wont get caught because of their communication with each other. so it really wont slow them down. i highlt doubt that it will slow anyone down. people will just try to invest in better radar/laser detectors and try to be more careful.

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Originally Posted by Njobe

most truckers that i see on 85 or 285 go 75-85 mph and they wont get caught because of their communication with each other. so it really wont slow them down. i highlt doubt that it will slow anyone down. people will just try to invest in better radar/laser detectors and try to be more careful.

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You will very rarely find a speeder on 285 (trucker). You will even more rarely find one exceeding 65 mph on 285. SO you don't see anyone going 75-85 on that freeway.

As far as I-85, you will also rarely see one in excess of 75mph. It just doesn't happen that often.

But again, my question stands....why would you think a law that has the potential to help you and your fears is stupid and be against it? Why would you NOT welcome anything that could possibly help you feel safer on the street? Is it because everyone else says it's stupid and you don't want to be chastised? I'm all for the law and no one is harping on me about it. Just good discussion. And I'm glad you're not thinking I'm clowning on you. Later, QD.

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Originally Posted by quickdodge®

You will very rarely find a speeder on 285 (trucker). You will even more rarely find one exceeding 65 mph on 285. SO you don't see anyone going 75-85 on that freeway.

As far as I-85, you will also rarely see one in excess of 75mph. It just doesn't happen that often.

But again, my question stands....why would you think a law that has the potential to help you and your fears is stupid and be against it? Why would you NOT welcome anything that could possibly help you feel safer on the street? Is it because everyone else says it's stupid and you don't want to be chastised? I'm all for the law and no one is harping on me about it. Just good discussion. And I'm glad you're not thinking I'm clowning on you. Later, QD.

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i have seen countless truckers passing me while i'm going 70mph. some i didn't start to pass until i came to 85mph. not saying that all do it, but there is a good sum that do. no, i could care less what someone else has to say. i don't like it cause i know one of those times that i'm late somewhere or something goes worng and i speed ill get that extra $200 fine. when i got my first ticket 3 years ago there was some older man at court that said he had not got a ticket in 29 years! i don't see why the cop couldn't let him go if had not had one in such a long time. does that mean that he doesn't speed, not really. however, it could also mean that he doesn't. my point with that is, that you can speed that one time and get pulled over and have to pay the extra $200. nah, no clowning.

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Originally Posted by Njobe

i have seen countless truckers passing me while i'm going 70mph. some i didn't start to pass until i came to 85mph. not saying that all do it, but there is a good sum that do.

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On 285? I can almost guarantee that you haven't seen a truck going over 75. I drive a truck. I have a CB. Everyone that goes on any part of that loop knows not to go that fast on there. As far as I-85, I'm not saying you've never seen one going that fast, but again, I'll guarantee you that you that there is not a good "sum" that do. It is not a countless number. Maybe, and I stress maybe, 1 out of every 25-30 trucks might hit 80.

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Originally Posted by Njobe

my point with that is, that you can speed that one time and get pulled over and have to pay the extra $200. nah, no clowning.

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As with anything in else in life, it only takes one time. As shitty as it is, it's the truth, lolol.

But you still haven't answered my question, lolol. I feel with what you've told me, that I've put a pretty big dent in your reasoning. Later, QD.

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Originally Posted by quickdodge®

On 285? I can almost guarantee that you haven't seen a truck going over 75. I drive a truck. I have a CB. Everyone that goes on any part of that loop knows not to go that fast on there. As far as I-85, I'm not saying you've never seen one going that fast, but again, I'll guarantee you that you that there is not a good "sum" that do. It is not a countless number. Maybe, and I stress maybe, 1 out of every 25-30 trucks might hit 80.

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next time i will start taking little videos lol.

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Originally Posted by quickdodge®

As with anything in else in life, it only takes one time. As shitty as it is, it's the truth, lolol.

But you still haven't answered my question, lolol. I feel with what you've told me, that I've put a pretty big dent in your reasoning. Later, QD.

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yes that is the truth. so because of that one time i don't want to pay extra. i think tickets are fine the way they are now. we pay taxes, no? some of our tax money goes to the police departments and other things. so why should we have to pay an extra $200 for a ticket. if it's like that, then i don't want to pay all the taxes. i mean shit, i've been working for 6 months and they already took over $3,000 in taxes from me. i just see this law as the government taking more money from people.