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    Quote Originally Posted by FlipKing View Post
    Again, not trying to argue, but they are NOT defending our freedom over there. Freedom has not been "defended" since the 40's.
    You are so ignorant. The fact is we are over there fighting and Americans are dying. I'd go over there and fight JUST to be able to save ONE of our guys. Although there is a lot of bad going on and maybe this war isnt a war we should be part of, there is still some good coming out of it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ARH1192 View Post
    You are so ignorant. The fact is we are over there fighting and Americans are dying. I'd go over there and fight JUST to be able to save ONE of our guys. Although there is a lot of bad going on and maybe this war isnt a war we should be part of, there is still some good coming out of it.

    Blind following is ignorance. Some good yes, waste of TRILLIONS to "protect" a people that dont want us there? Not so good. This is a whole other thread though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlipKing View Post
    Blind following is ignorance. Some good yes, waste of TRILLIONS to "protect" a people that dont want us there? Not so good. This is a whole other thread though.
    Please tell me where the fight would be if it weren't going on over there.

    Take off your tin-foil hat and get at me when you can come up with an answer you made on your own, instead of what the internet spoon fed you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AFSil80 View Post
    Please tell me where the fight would be if it weren't going on over there.

    Take off your tin-foil hat and get at me when you can come up with an answer you made on your own, instead of what the internet spoon fed you.

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    Patriots are too often engrossed in ignorance to see the truth. We had no business being in Iraq in the first place. Where did they find the WMDs? Oh yeah...They didnt. Suddam has been dead for years and yet we are still there, spending more money on Iraq that could very well be used at home. Patriotism is good. Blind patriotism is bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlipKing View Post
    Patriots are too often engrossed in ignorance to see the truth. We had no business being in Iraq in the first place. Where did they find the WMDs? Oh yeah...They didnt. Suddam has been dead for years and yet we are still there, spending more money on Iraq that could very well be used at home. Patriotism is good. Blind patriotism is bad.
    BWhahahhahahahaha

    Well good thing we have "enlightend" folk like you around to show us heathens the path to righteousness.

    Which has been a bigger failure?

    War in Iraq or the War on Poverty?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Echonova View Post
    BWhahahhahahahaha

    Well good thing we have "enlightend" folk like you around to show us heathens the path to righteousness.

    Which has been a bigger failure?

    War in Iraq or the War on Poverty?

    Hardly, I just pay attention to the news occasionally. Both have been failures IMO. We came out of the war on terror looking like oppressing dictators and we spend all the money that should go the war on poverty on the war on terror.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FlipKing View Post
    Hardly, I just pay attention to the news occasionally. Both have been failures IMO. We came out of the war on terror looking like oppressing dictators and we spend all the money that should go the war on poverty on the war on terror.
    We look like dictators? Is that because they elected their own government to run their country, or was it because their cities now have more infrastructure that we built than before the war started and when they were under the glorious rule of Saddam? I'm confused.

    We still have troops in Germany and Japan, nobody's bitching about that.

    Spending more money on poverty will only lead to more poverty. Look how well it's worked so far. While I believe there should be a safety net of some kind for when people fall on hard times, it should not be a way of life. Giving people something for nothing is more oppressive than any dictator. Because people become dependent on a handout, and once they are dependent... No Army can free them of their shackles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlipKing View Post
    Hardly, I just pay attention to the news occasionally. Both have been failures IMO. We came out of the war on terror looking like oppressing dictators and we spend all the money that should go the war on poverty on the war on terror.
    big mistake when it comes to this war, any body with a shred of common sense should know that the news would never report any of the good that happens over here. They never talk about the schools we build, hospitals we build, roads we repair and tons of other things we do for the iraqi people. Training the Iraqi army is our main focus in iraq right now and that will help them establish a real government and help iraqis to lead better lives for years and years to come...

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    Quote Originally Posted by FlipKing View Post
    Patriots are too often engrossed in ignorance to see the truth. We had no business being in Iraq in the first place. Where did they find the WMDs? Oh yeah...They didnt. Suddam has been dead for years and yet we are still there, spending more money on Iraq that could very well be used at home. Patriotism is good. Blind patriotism is bad.
    You dodged my question completely.

    This war is not only being fought in Iraq, so again, take put down the conspiracy novel and attempt to answer it.

    EDIT: It seems echo/bdydrpdmazda picked up where I left off.

    I'll just give you one piece of advice, Flipking. Don't EVER call a soldier or Veteran a 'blind Patriot.'
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    Quote Originally Posted by AFSil80 View Post
    You dodged my question completely.

    This war is not only being fought in Iraq, so again, take off your tin foil hat and attempt to answer it.

    And it seems bdydrpdmazda picked up where I left off.

    I'll just give you one piece of advice, Flipking. Don't EVER call a soldier or Veteran a 'blind Patriot.'
    He is an idiot none the less man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AFSil80 View Post
    Please tell me where the fight would be if it weren't going on over there.

    Take off your tin-foil hat and get at me when you can come up with an answer you made on your own, instead of what the internet spoon fed you.

    Regards,

    I guess he forgot all about 9/11 . i didn't respond to his post because it wasn't worth it.

    You know flipking, if the people who have died in this war didn't volunteer and go die.. if we had no military force over there stopping the inevitable (them entering the US to commit more terrorist acts) what position do you think we'd be in?

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