LET'S SEE HOW MANY OF YOU CAN BE HONEST.....

[quickdodge®]

.why seek out a service and expect the service to be quality if you don't feel the need to tip?

In a customer service environment, quality of service is EVERYTHING. No matter the tip. Later, QD.

[BobbyFresco]

In a customer service environment, quality of service is EVERYTHING. No matter the tip. Later, QD.

I understand that however, most of us know the drill when we go out for meals at a full service restaurant...

How can one demand or expect excellent service when you are not willing to compensate the giver of said service for their hard work?

[quickdodge®]

How can one demand or expect excellent service when you are not willing to compensate the giver of said service for their hard work?

I'm not a non-tipper, but I'm not a $5 tipper, either. I pay $20 for a meal/s and I tip about $2-3. I typically stay in the 10% bracket. I'm not rich. I don't eat out at restaurants like that but maybe 2-3 times a year.

But I do believe that, tip or no tip, you should always provide the most excellent service that you can because it is, in fact, your job. If the diner doesn't tip, that sucks, but that's the nature of the business that YOU (the server) chose to get involved in. If you don't like your pay, find a job that pays what you do like.

Bottom line, to me, is there is no questioning when (or under what circumstances) should it be ok to demand excellent service. It's always ok. Later, QD.

[BobbyFresco]

I'm not a non-tipper, but I'm not a $5 tipper, either. I pay $20 for a meal/s and I tip about $2-3. I typically stay in the 10% bracket. I'm not rich. I don't eat out at restaurants like that but maybe 2-3 times a year.

But I do believe that, tip or no tip, you should always provide the most excellent service that you can because it is, in fact, your job. If the diner doesn't tip, that sucks, but that's the nature of the business that YOU (the server) chose to get involved in. If you don't like your pay, find a job that pays what you do like.

Bottom line, to me, is there is no questioning when (or under what circumstances) should it be ok to demand excellent service. It's always ok. Later, QD.

I agree with most of your stance on the issue however...

Conversely, for the sake of playing devil's advocate, most adults eat out on at the very least, a semi regular basis...that being said, you know that the server relies on tips to make ends meet. You may or may not know the server gets paid $2.13 an hour so you operate on the assumption that they make minimum wage, which is hardly anything at all....Knowing these facts and knowing that most servers work hard to make sure that your meal is enjoyable, why would one not want to compensate accordingly?

Additionally, the argument could be made that if you do not feel tipping is something you should do (and when I say you, I'm not speaking of you specifically) then perhaps you shouldn't patronize establishments where tipping is someone's means of living.

[quickdodge®]

Knowing these facts and knowing that most servers work hard to make sure that your meal is enjoyable, why would one not want to compensate accordingly?

I don't disagree with this at all. I think that those folks are less than respectable when it comes to the restaurant scene. And it really sucks for the servers, but....

then perhaps you shouldn't patronize establishements where tipping is someone's means of living.

That shouldn't stop good service.

We're in agreement on the initial question, dude, lolol. Later, QD.

[oneSLOWex]

I understand that however, most of us know the drill when we go out for meals at a full service restaurant...

How can one demand or expect excellent service when you are not willing to compensate the giver of said service for their hard work?

I have a couple friends who dont tip or just leave like a dollar on like a $20 ticket. Its so embarrassing so I make sure and leave them extra to cover for cheap asses.

[BobbyFresco]

I have a couple friends who dont tip or just leave like a dollar on like a $20 ticket. Its so embarrassing so I make sure and leave them extra to cover for cheap asses.

Reps.
I find myself doing the same thing.
I have worked service industry jobs in the past so I can say that I know what it's like to work your ass off for people who think your job is a joke.

[oneSLOWex]

Reps.
I find myself doing the same thing.
I have worked service industry jobs in the past so I can say that I know what it's like to work your ass off for people who think your job is a joke.

I have never been one to not tip or tip shitty...but dating a few chicks who work in this type of place you will learn just how bad some people really are.