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    Hrrrmmm. I understand the owners standpoint, but then again you have to always consider your viewer/reader and what they might take it as. It IS true that gangs are often referred to by color association and not from a racists standpoint, but TRUE colors that are a symbol of the gang. BUT like I said, some people will obviously take offense especially since you can't take each person aside and explain what it really means.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tracy
    Hrrrmmm. I understand the owners standpoint, but then again you have to always consider your viewer/reader and what they might take it as. It IS true that gangs are often referred to by color association and not from a racists standpoint, but TRUE colors that are a symbol of the gang. BUT like I said, some people will obviously take offense especially since you can't take each person aside and explain what it really means.
    Exactly, but he knew what he was doing when he posted it. =/, really. Why not just post "No gangs allowed" instead? Isn't that a little more direct? Instead he used a slang term to refer to what everyone would understand as a "gang", he knew what he was doing, he was purposely stirring controversy.

    I could walk around with a shirt that says "I HATE FAGS", then deal with all the people who would say I was homophobic, or a bigot, or w/e. Then I'd laugh and say like a fucking retard "Uh.... it means cigarette in the UK, Lolol rotflmfaozors!!!".


    Thats just fucking stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Ninja
    Exactly, but he knew what he was doing when he posted it. =/, really. Why not just post "No gangs allowed" instead? Isn't that a little more direct? Instead he used a slang term to refer to what everyone would understand as a "gang", he knew what he was doing, he was purposely stirring controversy.

    I could walk around with a shirt that says "I HATE FAGS", then deal with all the people who would say I was homophobic, or a bigot, or w/e. Then I'd laugh and say like a fucking retard "Uh.... it means cigarette in the UK, Lolol rotflmfaozors!!!".


    Thats just fucking stupid.
    Actually wrong. Most of the Hells Angels, Outlaws, Hells Hincemen, etc consider themselves clubs. Therefore saying no gang's would make the biker gangs think of all the street gangs around that represent with colors.

    The sign was just a poor choice of words. Should have read "No Colors or Patches Allowed!" That way not even a ignorant person could say that was being racist!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mach'N'U
    Actually wrong. Most of the Hells Angels, Outlaws, Hells Hincemen, etc consider themselves clubs. Therefore saying no gang's would make the biker gangs think of all the street gangs around that represent with colors.

    The sign was just a poor choice of words. Should have read "No Colors or Patches Aloud!" That way not even a ignorant person could say that was being racist!
    Like with all caps?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 81911SC
    Like with all caps?
    lol i could not think of how to spell the word!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mach'N'U
    lol i could not think of how to spell the word!
    Lol, it got the point across.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mach'N'U
    Actually wrong. Most of the Hells Angels, Outlaws, Hells Hincemen, etc consider themselves clubs. Therefore saying no gang's would make the biker gangs think of all the street gangs around that represent with colors.

    The sign was just a poor choice of words. Should have read "No Colors or Patches Allowed!" That way not even a ignorant person could say that was being racist!
    If I were an [ignorant] pirate that sign would offend me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by speedminded
    If I were an [ignorant] pirate that sign would offend me.
    lol thats just trying to poke holes in it at that point!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mach'N'U
    Actually wrong. Most of the Hells Angels, Outlaws, Hells Hincemen, etc consider themselves clubs.
    No sir, homeless. Biker gangs think of themselves as just that. Gangs. They use the "club" moniker to make it more like a traditional group of people with common (legal) interests. Calling it a "club" makes it look better from the outsiders POV. That's why a lot of them do charity work and fund drives. It's to keep suspicious eyes off of them. Later, QD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Ninja
    Exactly, but he knew what he was doing when he posted it. =/, really. Why not just post "No gangs allowed" instead? Isn't that a little more direct? Instead he used a slang term to refer to what everyone would understand as a "gang", he knew what he was doing, he was purposely stirring controversy.

    I could walk around with a shirt that says "I HATE FAGS", then deal with all the people who would say I was homophobic, or a bigot, or w/e. Then I'd laugh and say like a fucking retard "Uh.... it means cigarette in the UK, Lolol rotflmfaozors!!!".


    Thats just fucking stupid.
    Your analogy is flawed. "Colors" DOES NOT and HAS NEVER in any way shape or form referred to a group of people of any race, pre or post civil rights movements. The term is colored not colors.



    Why doesn't the ImportAtlanta "Clubs and Crews" forum named mention gangs? Because they aren't gangs. The bar just don't want people repping their crews and stirring up shit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by speedminded
    Your analogy is flawed. "Colors" DOES NOT and HAS NEVER in any way shape or form referred to a group of people of any race, pre or post civil rights movements. The term is colored not colors.



    Why doesn't the ImportAtlanta "Clubs and Crews" forum named mention gangs? Because they aren't gangs. The bar just don't want people repping their crews and stirring up shit.

    They're not gangs because they haven't been affiliated with "gang" activities. Such as violent beatings, initiations, drug trade, black market trade, etc.

    EDIT: I never said the word or the sign was racist nor did I claim that the term "colors" had ever been used to refer to black people.

    I'm just saying the sign was poorly worded, and I'm SURE he knew what he was doing when he did it, and if not he's one naive bastard; otherwise, he's just fucking stupid. =/

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Ninja
    They're not gangs because they haven't been affiliated with "gang" activities. Such as violent beatings, initiations, drug trade, black market trade, etc.
    I'm sure there is car theft and street racing going on within plenty of the crews.

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    Quote Originally Posted by speedminded
    I'm sure there is car theft and street racing going on within plenty of the crews.
    A gang by its most basic defition is a group of people meeting together. If a car club running around "repping" a vinyl, hanging out in a parking lot loitering would be classified as a gang none the less!

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    Quote Originally Posted by speedminded
    Your analogy is flawed. "Colors" DOES NOT and HAS NEVER in any way shape or form referred to a group of people of any race, pre or post civil rights movements. The term is colored not colors.

    Wow that picture is powerful. I cant even imagine life like that!

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