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    Quote Originally Posted by TSiFTW
    I totally get it. Pursue it if you want. I just stated my opinion. It will still be he said, she said. Civil court is a mother fucker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SL33P3R
    I read your post. Ive read every single one of your posts. I dont know about you, but I dont want to go to the jail in Atlanta. That was a smart decision on my part. Plus, I dont want that on my record, yet again another smart decision on my part. ANOTHER smart decision on my part is taking pictures of myself that night when I got home. Im not saying im going to win. Im not even saying Im going to sue. Im just seeing what people THINK I can do. Everybody else Ive talked to, even club owners, told me to pursue it. Period
    you know you can still file a report after it happened. plus you have pictures of right after it happened. id say pursue it.
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    Damn. Thread of the day maybe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SL33P3R
    I understand getting kicked out 100%, I was not arguing about that at all. I know I was in the wrong. But punching me in my face while I was handcuffed on my stomach had me wondering..
    This reminds me of a movie lol.
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    yeah i would not bother. because once its known that you where under 21 and drinking, you just lost all credability. Then like someone already stated you will get a huge fine, and loose your license!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mach'N'U
    yeah i would not bother. because once its known that you where under 21 and drinking, you just lost all credability. Then like someone already stated you will get a huge fine, and loose your license!
    its after the fact now they have no proof that he was drinking and why would he lose his license if he wasnt driving again?
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    I would sue. I would list the club as a plaintiff as well as the body guard and the cop. Even if the club lets the employee go, he was still working their so they would be responsible also. Make sure you take plenty of pictures, also go file a police report. I would acknowledge too the cops someone else was drinking and you weren’t the one, that they where kicking your group out.

    Most clubs carry insurance for stuff like this I’m sure the insurance company would step in and take care of you.

    I think its funny how most on IA say it was your fault. Get serious, everyone drinks before they are 21. So no reason to jump his ass over it.


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    Damn This is Fucked up man...These Bouncers are on power Trips they wouldnt Let Me in with My California ID and i am 19..They said the ID was Fake then the fucker called the Police officer and he Looked Stupid Because the ID was infact Real..

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    Wow....sue.

    The kicking of your ass is assault, underage drinking or not. Maybe I'm too nice, but just ask the patron to leave the establishment. Handcuffing, beating, and tossing in a dumpster is kinda extra. Civil case at the least I would think. Forget the bouncer, get the club.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lcortes32
    Damn This is Fucked up man...These Bouncers are on power Trips they wouldnt Let Me in with My California ID and i am 19..They said the ID was Fake then the fucker called the Police officer and he Looked Stupid Because the ID was infact Real..
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    Quote Originally Posted by DirtyMechanic
    its after the fact now they have no proof that he was drinking and why would he lose his license if he wasnt driving again?
    You realize that like B18 said clubs carry heavy insurance. They also have LOADS of high end video cameras! They would have him on video wearing a over 21 braclet, there fore Underage Possesion. He could argue that someone sold it to him, but that would just put more dis-credit against him. Underage Possesion is a automatic 6-12 month suspension of ones license.

    I agree with B18 that everyone under 21 drinks, but least most are not dumb enough to do it or try it in a place that will most likely get you caught!

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    I don't know about it being a automatic license suspension unless things have changed over the last few years. Because back in high school my buddy got caught with a bottle of booze in his car because his girl friend at the time got to drunk and started puking. He just got kicked out of school for the remainder of the year which was only like 2 weeks lol. So he had to take summer school to graduate. But he never said who bought it for him. But he never lost his license. Although he did have to take a drug & AA class. But that was only because he was caught at school.
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    Even tho the one of the assistant principles and the resource officer took the bottle and drank it. Of course the school i went to was crooked as fuck anyways to begin with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by §treet_§peed
    I don't know about it being a automatic license suspension unless things have changed over the last few years. Because back in high school my buddy got caught with a bottle of booze in his car because his girl friend at the time got to drunk and started puking. He just got kicked out of school for the remainder of the year which was only like 2 weeks lol. So he had to take summer school to graduate. But he never said who bought it for him. But he never lost his license. Although he did have to take a drug & AA class. But that was only because he was caught at school.
    3-3-23.
    (a) Except as otherwise authorized by law:
    (1) No person knowingly, directly or through another person, shall furnish, cause to be furnished, or permit any person in such person´s employ to furnish any alcoholic beverage to any person under 21 years of age;
    (2) No person under 21 years of age shall purchase, attempt to purchase, or knowingly possess any alcoholic beverage;
    (3) No person under 21 years of age shall misrepresent such person´s age in any manner whatever for the purpose of obtaining illegally any alcoholic beverage;
    (4) No person knowingly or intentionally shall act as an agent to purchase or acquire any alcoholic beverage for or on behalf of a person under 21 years of age; or
    (5) No person under 21 years of age shall misrepresent his or her identity or use any false identification for the purpose of purchasing or obtaining any alcoholic beverage.

    Last I saw being caught with underage poessesion was a automatic license suspension. It may have changed though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeLLo iM iZzY
    LOL @ some of you hard asses out there thinking you guys know it all.

    DUDE GOT IN THE CLUB......NO TROUBLE THERE. IT WAS AN 18+ EVENT.

    BOUNCER APPROACHES HIM.......THIS BOUNCE BTW IS SUPPOSED TO FOLLOW ALL RULES AND REGULATIONS THAT FOLLOW AT A CLUB......BOUNCER SELLS A 21 BAND....WHICH ALLOWS AN UNDERAGE TO DRINK.......WAIT.....HOLD UP??? Yes...that's right. The bouncer allowed this underage kid to drink.

    LET'S ALSO LOOK AT THIS FROM ANOTHER POINT OF VIEW. No fight happens, everyone had a good time. OP HOPS IN THE CAR.....INTOXICATED.....ON THE WAY HOME.....DIES IN A CAR WRECK. ANOTHER DUI wreck, ANOTHER teen dead, ANOTHER kid that's UNDERAGE DRUNK, DEAD.

    This all comes out to, how did he get the alcohol? Who sold it to him? How? What? WHERE, WHY?

    YOU GUYS SERIOUSLY THINK, OPERA WOULD BE FREE NOW IF THE OP WAS FOUND DEAD ON THE SCENE OF AN ACCIDENT? BECAUSE OF A BOUNCER THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO FOLLOW ALL THE RULES BUT INSTEAD BROKE THEM TO GET THAT EXTRA CHEESE !?!?

    For all you know, you might have NEVER had the intentions to drink but instead changed your mind as he approached you.

    Of course he wrong for drinking....DUH, he is underage, but what about the retard bouncer that made this happen? WHERE DOES HIS PUNISHMENT FALL IN PLACE?

    B.S B.S B.S B.S B.S B.S

    IF YOU WALKED INTO WAL MART AND GOT STRAIGHT BEAT THE SNOT OF YOU BY AN EMPLOYEE.....WOULD YOU NOT SUE? WOULD YOU JUST SAY FUCK IT, I WAS AT THE WRONG PLACE AT THE WRONG FUCKING TIME OR WOULD YOU TAKE SOME ACTIONS?

    IF WAL MART SENT YOU AN E-MAIL STATING THAT "Wal Mart has released the employee from his duties, he no longer works for Wal Mart. His actions were of his own not Wal Mart."... ?????

    I'll give you minute or two to think about this one.....

    GO AHEAD.....I GOT TIME.

    I LOVE HOW ALL OF YA'LL ARE SO QUICK TO COME DOWN WITH YOUR NEGATIVE COMMENT ON SOMEONE AND JUST DON'T EVER BOTHER TO LOOK AT THE STORY FROM ANOTHER VIEW.

    OP......GO AS FAR AS YOU CAN WITH THIS CASE.......I KNOW SOMETHING CAN HAPPEN OUT OF THIS FOR SURE.
    And how do you know it all...Attorney, law student, organized parities, own(ed) a club?

    First he'll have to prove that bouncer sold it to him, bouncer isn't gonna say "I did it". All he has to say is, "I didn't sell it, he probably had his 21+ friend get it for him." Now it comes to OP to prove that Bouncer sold him the VIP bands to get access to drinks. Bands were sold in bathroom, no cameras, no proof on OP side.

    Boucner didn't force him to buy, he asked, OP accepted, both at fault.

    OP still at fault driving drunk, him still at 100% fault if he got hurt in accident. Now underage drinking, DUI, accident ticket, w/e cops wants to charge. Ever got pulled over for DUI underage and said "shit not my fault, this bar sold it to me...i am innocent."

    How, where, when did minor got drinks happens at the scene, by the officers present at the scene. So it can be documented properly. What did the cops at the sight do?

    Walmat.....Night Club....2 totally different location. U do shit at Walmart, they won't beat your ass, but will lock your in a room till cops come....hour, 2, 3. What are you gonna do sue walmart because you did something illegal and they locked you in a room?

    Heck if he didn't report it that night....i don't even see him able to prove he got beat by security. If i say, he got thrown out of Opera for underage drinking then got in a fight with his friend who gave him 21+ bands over him promising not getting caught, but getting caught within few mins and being upset about it. Then comes up with "i can say Opera Bouncer did all this." Who is to prove me wrong? Documentation?


    Nothign against OP, we all have been there and did that. It's our damn age to have fun. Like i said at this point if all this wasn't documentate properly, it will be a hard case to prove. Plus OP will be admiting in court about underage drinking.

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    U can still report it, but longer you wait.....weaker your case will be. It's gonna be a hard case, you'll need VERY good lawyer. Opera has very deep pockets, and they go through these kinds of cases on regular basis so they know exactly buttons to press. GL

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    I would file assault charges.

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    Quote Originally Posted by UpSideDownDesi
    And how do you know it all...Attorney, law student, organized parities, own(ed) a club?

    First he'll have to prove that bouncer sold it to him, bouncer isn't gonna say "I did it". All he has to say is, "I didn't sell it, he probably had his 21+ friend get it for him." Now it comes to OP to prove that Bouncer sold him the VIP bands to get access to drinks. Bands were sold in bathroom, no cameras, no proof on OP side.

    Boucner didn't force him to buy, he asked, OP accepted, both at fault.

    OP still at fault driving drunk, him still at 100% fault if he got hurt in accident. Now underage drinking, DUI, accident ticket, w/e cops wants to charge. Ever got pulled over for DUI underage and said "shit not my fault, this bar sold it to me...i am innocent."

    How, where, when did minor got drinks happens at the scene, by the officers present at the scene. So it can be documented properly. What did the cops at the sight do?

    Walmat.....Night Club....2 totally different location. U do shit at Walmart, they won't beat your ass, but will lock your in a room till cops come....hour, 2, 3. What are you gonna do sue walmart because you did something illegal and they locked you in a room?

    Heck if he didn't report it that night....i don't even see him able to prove he got beat by security. If i say, he got thrown out of Opera for underage drinking then got in a fight with his friend who gave him 21+ bands over him promising not getting caught, but getting caught within few mins and being upset about it. Then comes up with "i can say Opera Bouncer did all this." Who is to prove me wrong? Documentation?


    Nothign against OP, we all have been there and did that. It's our damn age to have fun. Like i said at this point if all this wasn't documentate properly, it will be a hard case to prove. Plus OP will be admiting in court about underage drinking.
    Wow first time I can quote you and agree. Hell even better to throw in the mix what if the bouncer that sold him the band was actually a cop? His ass would have been arrested on the spot. He goes to court he has to admit to commiting fraud to obtain the drinks. At that point all credability is lost with what ever he says. Past there club can turn around and counter sue for harrassing them and for court cost. So then you would be looking at a possible counter-lawsuit + if the judge wants to fine you or punish you for possesion of alcohol as a minor!

    Just chalk this up as a very very hard lesson learned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mach'N'U
    3-3-23.
    (a) Except as otherwise authorized by law:
    (1) No person knowingly, directly or through another person, shall furnish, cause to be furnished, or permit any person in such person´s employ to furnish any alcoholic beverage to any person under 21 years of age;
    (2) No person under 21 years of age shall purchase, attempt to purchase, or knowingly possess any alcoholic beverage;
    (3) No person under 21 years of age shall misrepresent such person´s age in any manner whatever for the purpose of obtaining illegally any alcoholic beverage;
    (4) No person knowingly or intentionally shall act as an agent to purchase or acquire any alcoholic beverage for or on behalf of a person under 21 years of age; or
    (5) No person under 21 years of age shall misrepresent his or her identity or use any false identification for the purpose of purchasing or obtaining any alcoholic beverage.

    Last I saw being caught with underage poessesion was a automatic license suspension. It may have changed though.
    not dissing you but all you stated was the law about alcohol. not what penalties come with breaking any of these.
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    Quote Originally Posted by §treet_§peed
    not dissing you but all you stated was the law about alcohol. not what penalties come with breaking any of these.
    Like the last line said...i can not find the punishment for them...let me keep looking.

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    Who has ever seen someone that gets thrown out of a club get beat up for no reason??? From my exp. generally tends to be because of a mouthy drunk... not saying that this is what happened just my 2 cents.

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    Well shit I was wrong to one extent. It would matter if he was driving the vehicle at the time. But the court could still argue he obtained alcohol at the club and then drove home after getting thrown out, could cause some issues.

    (2) For purposes of this chapter, an accepted plea of nolo contendere to any violation of Code Section 40-6-393 or 40-6-394 shall constitute a conviction.
    (e) The driveŕs license of any person under 21 years of age who is convicted of unlawful possession of alcoholic beverages in violation of Code Section 3-3-23 while operating a motor vehicle may be suspended for a period of not less than 120 days. At the end of 120 days, the person may apply to the department for reinstatement of said driveŕs license. Such license shall be reinstated only if the person submits proof of completion of an approved DUI Alcohol or Drug Use Risk Reduction Program and pays a restoration fee of $35.00 or $25.00 when processed by mail. For purposes of this subsection, a sentence under subsection (c) of Code Section 3-3-23.1 shall not be considered a conviction, and the driveŕs license of such person shall not be suspended, provided that such person completes a DUI Alcohol or Drug Use Risk Reduction Program within 120 days after sentencing.

    This is what you would face if charged with underage possession.

    3-3-23.1.
    (a) It is unlawful for any person knowingly to violate any prohibition contained in Code Section 3-3-23, relating to furnishing alcoholic beverages to, and purchasing, attempting to purchase, and possession of alcoholic beverages by, a person under 21 years of age.
    (b)(1) Any person convicted of violating any prohibition contained in subsection (a) of Code Section 3-3-23 shall, upon the first conviction, be guilty of a misdemeanor, except that any person convicted of violating paragraph (2) of subsection (a) of Code Section 3-3-23 shall, upon the first conviction, be guilty of a misdemeanor and shall be punished by not more than six monthś imprisonment or a fine of not more than $300.00, or both and except that any person convicted of violating paragraph (4) of subsection (a) of Code Section 3-3-23 shall, upon the first conviction, be guilty of a misdemeanor of a high and aggravated nature.
    (2) Any person convicted of violating any prohibition contained in subsection (a) of Code Section 3-3-23 shall, upon the second or subsequent conviction, be guilty of a misdemeanor of a high and aggravated nature, except that any person convicted of violating paragraph (2) of subsection (a) of Code Section 3-3-23 shall, upon the second or subsequent conviction, be guilty of a misdemeanor.
    (3) In addition to any other penalty provided for in paragraphs (1) and (2) of this subsection, the driveŕs license of any person convicted of attempting to purchase an alcoholic beverage in violation of paragraph (2) of subsection (a) of Code Section 3-3-23 upon the first conviction shall be suspended for six months and upon the second or subsequent conviction shall be suspended for one year.

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    lets talk about the beating he got on camera and he not doing anything wrong that alone just makes the club look bad.Its bad for business and for there check book considering there insurance will go through the roof when they see what kind of shi* that goes on in there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stay_up
    lets talk about the beating he got on camera and he not doing anything wrong that alone just makes the club look bad.Its bad for business and for there check book considering there insurance will go through the roof when they see what kind of shi* that goes on in there.
    Yeah you cant refute that. But what he has to hope is they have him on camera getting beat. If he does then he might be able to take a hit for the underage possession to sue the club. But if he takes them to court, has no video evidence of what happened. They have proof of him with the 21+ band, then he just shot himself in the foot, and its going to get real bad real fast!

    My vote is to not risk it, and chalk it up as a hard lesson!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mach'N'U
    Yeah you cant refute that. But what he has to hope is they have him on camera getting beat. If he does then he might be able to take a hit for the underage possession to sue the club. But if he takes them to court, has no video evidence of what happened. They have proof of him with the 21+ band, then he just shot himself in the foot, and its going to get real bad real fast!

    My vote is to not risk it, and chalk it up as a hard lesson!
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    lol take that shit to trial bitch.


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    Quote Originally Posted by stay_up
    lets talk about the beating he got on camera and he not doing anything wrong that alone just makes the club look bad.Its bad for business and for there check book considering there insurance will go through the roof when they see what kind of shi* that goes on in there.
    If I remember OP got beater outside the club when he was handcuffed and against a trash can, doubt they'll have a cam there, but never hurts checking. If on can then he has a case. Opera already has bad rep about their bouncers, and business they do. They have been good to me, but i am still careful not to start anything there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sögoodM3
    lol take that shit to trial bitch.

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    i'm not reading this entire thread but i would most certainly report it - its a suit between you vs club so i wouldn't worry about state coming after you for buying alcohol, etc... i would assume they are at fault for serving a minor then any damages you suffered by bouncers.

    i can't stand sue happy people but quick read makes it sound like you just got taken advantage of... get your mutha fuckn check!
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    For all you idiots who dont know the LAW.... he was asked to leave, he leaved without putting up a fight, they crossed the line by pushing him down the stairs, and then outside where they hand cuffed and beat him, yeah id say thats breaking the law on the Bouncers side, and yeah it was stupid for him to go to a 21+ club but he didnt deserve to get beat up for it. And you can still file charges on them, and id def. have your dads attorney rip them a new asshole and a nice little lawsuit. They have no chance of winning this in court you have 2 witnesses and just because they may have cops trust me dont sweat it they can possibly be repremanded

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    I would have went to jail --- they would have lost their liquor license and just MIGHT get to re-open the club after a year w/ a new name like Baby J's Chill Spot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HatchForSale
    For all you idiots who dont know the LAW.... he was asked to leave, he leaved without putting up a fight, they crossed the line by pushing him down the stairs, and then outside where they hand cuffed and beat him, yeah id say thats breaking the law on the Bouncers side, and yeah it was stupid for him to go to a 21+ club but he didnt deserve to get beat up for it. And you can still file charges on them, and id def. have your dads attorney rip them a new asshole and a nice little lawsuit. They have no chance of winning this in court you have 2 witnesses and just because they may have cops trust me dont sweat it they can possibly be repremanded
    um for you not knowing the law...alot of what you just posted was here-say! Unless they have it on video he cant prove it. They WILL have him on video breaking the law with possession of alcolhol. Therefore losing him alot of credability about anything he says against them! Plus he would still have to admit in court of what he did to put him in the wrong for the actions they took against him. Be shotting himself in the foot!

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    lol, for you who drives that week ass STANG, my dad is a lawyer and just told me what to his options were fuck tard, are you a lawyer, no what the fuck do you know, you faggot ass bitch and your girly STANG

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    2 witnesses, who were sober, id say that enough credibility jackass go back to school you southern illiterate bastard lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by HatchForSale
    lol, for you who drives that week ass STANG, my dad is a lawyer and just told me what to his options were fuck tard, are you a lawyer, no what the fuck do you know, you faggot ass bitch and your girly STANG
    uhahahahahahahahahahaha! all i had!

    If your dad is so smart then ask him if he can prove it without evidence? dumbass!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HatchForSale
    2 witnesses, who were sober, id say that enough credibility jackass go back to school you southern illiterate bastard lol
    where did he ever post that he had witnesses in the back where he was getting assulted?

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    Ok, here you go for your stupid comment. Just to throw it in your face,seems how you know so much...

    1. The bouncer let him in the Club with a fake ID or whatever it was, which makes the Club liable for serving a minor. Bouncers are suppose to be trained for finding a fake ID

    2. Unlawful imprisonment, bouncer can not handcuff you by anymeans

    3. The officer will be forced to testify in court and i will bet you he wont lie, or he will be in contemp and will not doubt lose his job

    3. Assualt and battering charges will be filed on the Bouncer/ (s) and the Club owner for allowing such behavior and serving minors alcohol
    hows that did i break it down BARNEY style for you or do i need to go down to telletubbie for you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mach'N'U
    where did he ever post that he had witnesses in the back where he was getting assulted?
    well he wasn't in VIP by himself
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