Originally Posted by fcman
I check sluts off my list like a maintnence man
I drive a low is3 just so it gives me a reason to drive super slow on these rough ga roads.
That was my question guys. I know for sure Im in the wrong for drinking. I can accept that. I was just wondering, if its worth trying to pursue. Thats all. I dont need people bickering at each other in here about whats legal and illegal
Lexus GS300
It's too late to do anything, let your eye heal and spot trouble before get in it next time. I had my fair share of 18+ fun, did it at clubs i knew bouncers or owners at or pre-gamed like rockstar and made sure i came back to do the business like ___star. Beer time, see y'all in few.
It's too late to do anything, let your eye heal and spot trouble before get in it next time. I had my fair share of 18+ fun, did it at clubs i knew bouncers or owners at or pre-gamed like rockstar and made sure i came back to do the business like ___star
No more ignoring PMs boss!
Lexus GS300
Chalk it up to an asswhooping and call it a day.
sounds like total BS but there is nothing else but pressing charges wouldn't have helped...although I used to club hop all the time when I was underage and never had a problem...wow
LOL @ some of you hard asses out there thinking you guys know it all.
DUDE GOT IN THE CLUB......NO TROUBLE THERE. IT WAS AN 18+ EVENT.
BOUNCER APPROACHES HIM.......THIS BOUNCE BTW IS SUPPOSED TO FOLLOW ALL RULES AND REGULATIONS THAT FOLLOW AT A CLUB......BOUNCER SELLS A 21 BAND....WHICH ALLOWS AN UNDERAGE TO DRINK.......WAIT.....HOLD UP??? Yes...that's right. The bouncer allowed this underage kid to drink.
LET'S ALSO LOOK AT THIS FROM ANOTHER POINT OF VIEW. No fight happens, everyone had a good time. OP HOPS IN THE CAR.....INTOXICATED.....ON THE WAY HOME.....DIES IN A CAR WRECK. ANOTHER DUI wreck, ANOTHER teen dead, ANOTHER kid that's UNDERAGE DRUNK, DEAD.
This all comes out to, how did he get the alcohol? Who sold it to him? How? What? WHERE, WHY?
YOU GUYS SERIOUSLY THINK, OPERA WOULD BE FREE NOW IF THE OP WAS FOUND DEAD ON THE SCENE OF AN ACCIDENT? BECAUSE OF A BOUNCER THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO FOLLOW ALL THE RULES BUT INSTEAD BROKE THEM TO GET THAT EXTRA CHEESE !?!?
For all you know, you might have NEVER had the intentions to drink but instead changed your mind as he approached you.
Of course he wrong for drinking....DUH, he is underage, but what about the retard bouncer that made this happen? WHERE DOES HIS PUNISHMENT FALL IN PLACE?
B.S B.S B.S B.S B.S B.S
IF YOU WALKED INTO WAL MART AND GOT STRAIGHT BEAT THE SNOT OF YOU BY AN EMPLOYEE.....WOULD YOU NOT SUE? WOULD YOU JUST SAY FUCK IT, I WAS AT THE WRONG PLACE AT THE WRONG FUCKING TIME OR WOULD YOU TAKE SOME ACTIONS?
IF WAL MART SENT YOU AN E-MAIL STATING THAT "Wal Mart has released the employee from his duties, he no longer works for Wal Mart. His actions were of his own not Wal Mart."... ?????
I'll give you minute or two to think about this one.....
GO AHEAD.....I GOT TIME.
I LOVE HOW ALL OF YA'LL ARE SO QUICK TO COME DOWN WITH YOUR NEGATIVE COMMENT ON SOMEONE AND JUST DON'T EVER BOTHER TO LOOK AT THE STORY FROM ANOTHER VIEW.
OP......GO AS FAR AS YOU CAN WITH THIS CASE.......I KNOW SOMETHING CAN HAPPEN OUT OF THIS FOR SURE.
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All in all bouncer sold it to him but did not force him to use it. He is still wrong. He drank, he got shit kicked out of him. Tough lesson.
Thanks.
Like I said.............before, and what would've happened if OP died on the home because of the intoxication?
NONE of this would've happened if the bouncer had not approached him, RIGHT?
SURE THE OP IS TO BLAME FOR ACCEPTING IT BUT THE BOUNCER IS 10X MORE IN THE WRONG FOR PROVIDING SOMETHING THAT HE GETS PAID FOR NOT TO TOLERATE............WHICH IS?????? YOU GUESSED IT!!! UNDERAGE DRINKING !!!
Just like a cop...........If every cop let every speeder speed, every aggressive driver, drive aggressive, every bank robber to rob, every criminal to commit crimes....WHERE DO YOU THINK WE WOULD BE WITH THAT MIND SET IN 10 YEARS?
PUT SOME THOUGHT INTO THIS BEFORE YOU REPLY, PLEASE. K, THX, BYE.
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Then it would have still been his motherfucking fault for choosing to damn underage drink and drive. Jesus christ at least have a valid argument. People try to lay the blame on others to much now days. Man the fuck up. Accept it and move on. People get fake ID's all the fucking time. If they drink is it the fault of the one who made the ID. Fuck no it isn't he still made the choice to drink. Get a clue. Or grow up one.
Why do you think when the police raid a club they arrest the ones with the fake IDs, cause it is the kids fault. You can try to sue if you want but you will still probably end up with charges pressed on you and the club will walk. You can call you BS all you want. Let him waste his time and money and then his tough lesson learned will then be an expensive time consuming tough lesson learned.
you do realize drinking has nothing to do with teh assult right? thats like you coming over me pushing you outside on the ground getting you in handcuffs then beating the shit out of you. what are you going to say.. wrong place wrong time? or better have learn my lesson and not have come over?
The G Spot Hero
"Nitrous is like a hot girl with STDS, you know you want to hit it but your afraid of the consequences."
WHOA WHOA WHOA!!! WHO THE FUCK PISSED IN YOUR FUCKING CEREAL, CHUMP?
If you fucking PAY a motherfucker to do his fucking job right and he fucks up, do you fucking blame the other guy or the motherfucker that you're paying? Answer me that shit.
This is the same fucking shit Akon got involved in......underage girl get's in the club, gets on the stage, Akon dry humps her, video gets out, and he's blamed for it?? LOL.
DUDE CAME TO AN 21+ EVENT........HE'S GOTTA MIND SET THAT EVERYONE IN THE CLUB IS OVER THE FUCKING AGE OF 21.......AND THEN IN THE END, THE GIRL WAS 13 YR OLD.......DO YOU BLAME HIM FOR NOT KNOWING....OR DO YOU BLAME THE BOUNCER FOR LETTING IN THE UNDERAGE CHICK TO AN EVENT THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE 21+? HMMM.......YOU TELL ME GENIUS.
YOU'RE NOT GETTING THE ARGUMENT....YOU'RE LOOKING TO FAR INTO THE ARGUMENT, IT WAS HIS FAULT, HE BOUGHT IT, HE CHOSE TO DRINK, BLA BLA BLA BLA BLA BLA.......
LIKE I SAID........WHAT IF HIS SOLE PURPOSE WAS THERE TO JUST CHILL AND NOT DRINK.....AND THE BOUNCER FORCED HIM TO BUY THEM OR HE WOULD KICK HIM OUT THE CLUB?
OR WHAT IF HE HAD NO OTHER CHOICE BUT TO BUY THEM?
AND THEN IN THE END......HE GOT "CAUGHT" WITH THE BAND.......WELL HOW IN THE FUCK DID HE GET THE BAND IN THE FIRST PLACE? SURELY NOT BY SHOWING HIS I.D. BECAUSE IT CLEARLY SHOWS HE IS NOT OF AGE TO RECEIVE ONE. RIGHT...?? RIGHT.
AND WTF IS THERE TO MAN UP ABOUT THE SITUATION? HE GOT BEAT UP BY A HIGHER POWER WHO TOOK IT TO A LEVEL THAT WAS NOT NEEDED FOR. DUDE WAS HANDCUFFED......THERE WAS A NUMBER OF THEM.......WHAT COULD'VE HE POSSIBLY DONE TO THEM? STAB THEM WITH HIS HANDS BEHIND THE BACK?
YOU WITH ARMS VS. DUDE WITH NO ARMS.........WHO DO YOU THINK IS GOING TO WIN IN A BOXING MATCH?
I NEED TO GO FOR A FUCKING LAWYER.
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OH OK.....NOW IT'S HIS CHOICE........
LET ME ASK YOU SOMETHING...I SEE THAT YOU'RE 30.....WISE....EH? MAYBE NOT SO MUCH BUT LET ME TALK TO YOU FOR A SECOND....
O.P WALKS UP TO YOU AND ASKS YOU IF YOU CAN BUY HIM SO BEER AT THE GAS STATION....YOU DO, COME BACK, GIVE IT TO ME, COPS SEES IT, AND ARRESTS YOU FOR PROVING ALCOHOL TO A MINOR....CORRECT?
HMMMM.....HOW THE FUCK DOES A 18 YR OLD GET ALCOHOL AT OPERA IF HE WALKED IN WITH NO 21+ BAND? ?!!??!?!?!? OHHHH......AN EMPLOYEE BROKE THE RULES AND "HOOKED HIM UP".....HMMMMM.......OH THAT'S JUST GREAT.
CASE CLOSED, I WIN.
BUY MY HATCH <--click the link, cuz.
And how do you know it all...Attorney, law student, organized parities, own(ed) a club?
First he'll have to prove that bouncer sold it to him, bouncer isn't gonna say "I did it". All he has to say is, "I didn't sell it, he probably had his 21+ friend get it for him." Now it comes to OP to prove that Bouncer sold him the VIP bands to get access to drinks. Bands were sold in bathroom, no cameras, no proof on OP side.
Boucner didn't force him to buy, he asked, OP accepted, both at fault.
OP still at fault driving drunk, him still at 100% fault if he got hurt in accident. Now underage drinking, DUI, accident ticket, w/e cops wants to charge. Ever got pulled over for DUI underage and said "shit not my fault, this bar sold it to me...i am innocent."
How, where, when did minor got drinks happens at the scene, by the officers present at the scene. So it can be documented properly. What did the cops at the sight do?
Walmat.....Night Club....2 totally different location. U do shit at Walmart, they won't beat your ass, but will lock your in a room till cops come....hour, 2, 3. What are you gonna do sue walmart because you did something illegal and they locked you in a room?
Heck if he didn't report it that night....i don't even see him able to prove he got beat by security. If i say, he got thrown out of Opera for underage drinking then got in a fight with his friend who gave him 21+ bands over him promising not getting caught, but getting caught within few mins and being upset about it. Then comes up with "i can say Opera Bouncer did all this." Who is to prove me wrong? Documentation?
Nothign against OP, we all have been there and did that. It's our damn age to have fun. Like i said at this point if all this wasn't documentate properly, it will be a hard case to prove. Plus OP will be admiting in court about underage drinking.
Wow first time I can quote you and agree. Hell even better to throw in the mix what if the bouncer that sold him the band was actually a cop? His ass would have been arrested on the spot. He goes to court he has to admit to commiting fraud to obtain the drinks. At that point all credability is lost with what ever he says. Past there club can turn around and counter sue for harrassing them and for court cost. So then you would be looking at a possible counter-lawsuit + if the judge wants to fine you or punish you for possesion of alcohol as a minor!
Just chalk this up as a very very hard lesson learned.
First, TYPING IN CAPS MAKES YOU LOOK STUPID. Please stop.
Comparing a walmart employee to a bouncer at a club is a huge difference. There are a lot of diff scenario's that could play out here.
Opera could never want this to go to court, they wouldn't want their name in the paper saying that one of their bouncers got caught contributing to minors and for assault against the same minor.
Opera could say take it to court, say that the kid was, while intoxicated, being disruptive and causing a problem. After being handcuffed he was struggling and KICKING at the cops, and that was the cause for your eye, was defense. It may not swing but I know in KY that if you kick at a cop and he slams your head into a hood, good luck pressing any charges. Its them vs an underage drinking.
He could take them to court, they try the above, and fail, and he gets money, fined for underage drinking, the bouncer gets fired in all scenarios, and he gets money.
Of course I own this.
IT PUTS THE OREOS ON THE RIM
Agreed, seems to be the common answer in this case. But the whole admitting to the underage possession will be the clincher in all scenarios!
So WTF does that make you look? Holy fucking irony.
My Wal Mart story makes perfect fucking sense. Walmart employee beating you up is the same shit as an Opera employee beating you up. So you fucking tell me, what the fuck does Kentucky have to do with this shit? First of all, you have no idea what you're talking about. He didn't get caught for underage drinking. READ homeboy, READ !
-Bouncer sold him 21+ band.
-OP buys alcohol
-Girl takes a sip of his alcohol.
-Some bouncer sees it, and kicks them out.
-Dude gets put in handcuffs and gets beaten up.
As far as I know....the cops never took his BAC, correct? So therefor, OP can claim that he never took a sip of alcohol. He had just bought the alcohol and was just chillin when the girl took a sip.
How can they prove he was drunk when there was no written evidence of his blood alcohol level?
Basically, dude got harassed by the bigger power and abused for the hell of it.
OP has something here for sure.
BUY MY HATCH <--click the link, cuz.
Wasnt being in handcuffs false imprisonment?
The G Spot Hero
"Nitrous is like a hot girl with STDS, you know you want to hit it but your afraid of the consequences."
I am with izzy just because i have seen plenty of these cases out in cali its like a everynight thing up there.And regaurdless if they let the bouncer go or not it still is on the employer because at the time of the accident he was employed by them.Call it what u will but with a great lawyer and if you got deep pockets u can make a nice case and change the name of the club to your own
I check sluts off my list like a maintnence man
I drive a low is3 just so it gives me a reason to drive super slow on these rough ga roads.
I am with izzy just because i have seen plenty of these cases out in cali its like a everynight thing up there.And regaurdless if they let the bouncer go or not it still is on the employer because at the time of the accident he was employed by them.Call it what u will but with a great lawyer and if you got deep pockets u can make a nice case and change the name of the club to your own
Exactly what I was thinking
Lexus GS300
soooo you got deep pockets? lol
Not really. But Ill split my earnings with my parents
Lexus GS300
lol hahahahahaa trufNot really. But Ill split my earnings with my parents
I'm surprised all the dudes who were talking big and "knew" what they were talking about have not made a response yet.
HMMMMMMMM......I'LL WAIT.
BUY MY HATCH <--click the link, cuz.
hmmm probably went to sleep? i still stand by what i said
Odakle tebe na IA?
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ma nemam nista pametnije radit pa doso ovdje malo drkat hahahaha
You laid it down pretty hard. Props.
Learning everyday.
If you go through with this.. lmk, I will testify for the injustice I have witnessed there..
I know of friends that will too..
Im going to check with my dad tomorrow and see what his attorney has said, and what he thinks we can do. I just want a few things
Lexus GS300
I wonder what is being left out, I know bouncers love to fuck someone up whenever the chance presents itself. But most of the time its the clubgoer that either says something or does something to provoke the bouncer's action. Gl on the lawsuit, I hope you atleast got checked out by a doctor as soon as this happened so its documented
2006 Evo IX - Bolt ons
I can honestly say, I did NOT lay a hand on anyone, or even try to resist, ofcourse I was trying to get up while I was getting punched in the face, handcuffed. But I was unsuccesful
Lexus GS300
lol at least you tried
isnt the hanfcuffs unlawful imprisonment though weather you were inside or not?
The G Spot Hero
"Nitrous is like a hot girl with STDS, you know you want to hit it but your afraid of the consequences."
I didnt even know bouncers could have handcuffs?
Lexus GS300
IZZY, marry me
no homo
Lexus GS300
U better have witnesses that were sober at the time of the incident. The club has bouncers and off duty cops working security to back up the club in court
2006 Evo IX - Bolt ons
I have one 100% sober friend, and one 95% sober friend. The cameras are 100% sober
Lexus GS300
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