I think the horrificness of last week is a great example of how it doesn't matter what each of us do individually to be chill... yeah, you guys that get to know us will be ok with us... but ultimately, it's the same thing as this bullshit racism... it's not funny. The objectification and belittlement of women, even as a joke, is hurtful to all of us. I don't care about me personally... I'm a strong woman and I can take care of myself... but I'm not the only one here... and we run off a lot of people with the way we talk about women.

You show me ONE other car forum where members can talk like this.... it doesn't exist, because it's ultimately bad for business.