I agree with some of the responses on here. Way before I even bought my first and current dub, I went to a bunch of shows with friends that drive dubs and damn what a difference from the other shows that I've been to. Everyone's real close to each other and always want to help out in one way or another. When I owned a Honda....it was all about mean muggin, competition, and counting each day how many kids are going to rev at me. I feel real good being part of the VW community.