I am really a car/power snob. Oh well.

[creman]

it's so funny to me you honestly think you're worth "research"

if I humped your leg, would you love me back?

but thanks for recognizing my babification. I must say my wife would agree.

[stillaneon]

HA. Simple minded to listen to an acupella group? Yeah, good luck with that one.

it's cute you're the white knight though.

and no, not me or my video. It's a famous group, and that was the first video that poped up in google. Didn't preview it.

"I am ashamed"
Sorry to hurt your feelings Tracy. You keep talking about it, so I suppose it really did hurt. I'm sorry you're over 30 and still crying like a baby.

Did I say that? I'm lost. I said you were simple minded to look up an acapella group.

But I take that back. You are simple minded because you mispelled such an easy word. like Acapella.

And did you think that the title of the video would prove some point. because you couldn't understand what they were saying.

[creman]

actually, listen to the words of the song. You look foolish right now.

Sorry I mispelled a word. I must give myself 30 lashes now...

[Tracy]

it's so funny to me you honestly think you're worth "research"

if I humped your leg, would you love me back?

but thanks for recognizing my babification. I must say my wife would agree.

It's so funny that you aren't getting it and that you are taking this all so seriously. I am messing with you. I keep using the word research to piss you off and it's working. Did I really need to spell that out for you?

[creman]

no, but the ironic thing is you just described yourself. I'm doing nothing but laughing at this. Taking this seriouse? I would hope not, even for you.

opps, 30 more lashes.
"I see what you did there"

[stillaneon]

actually, listen to the words of the song. You look foolish right now.

Sorry I mispelled a word. I must give myself 30 lashes now...

I won't even ask you to research. I have stated twice that you can't understand half the shit they are saying because of the video quality. Obviously if you weren't able to comprehend that, I'm not going to bash you on anything else.

[Tracy]

no, but the ironic thing is you just described yourself. I'm doing nothing but laughing at this. Taking this seriouse? I would hope not, even for you.

Yay! I am so happy to know that we have something in common then. I am also flattered that you spent more than 1/2 your time on IA so far in my thread. It must be entertaining at least.

Your turn again.

[stillaneon]

Are you catholic?

[Tracy]

Look creman, You helped me get 799 views by all of these people.

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Thanks for helping out my cause! Reps for you.

[creman]

yeah, you're good at helping my post count

stillaneon, you have the song name and artist. Do I need to explain google for you?

[creman]

reps are hott.
That is all

[Tracy]

Ok peoples. I have to walk my dog. The show is over for today, from me anyways. I'm sure creman will have some more lame posts for y'all to have fun with.

Bye Cre. Nice to me ya dude. Tell all of your coworkers I said later. Oh and I look forward to you trying to prove your worth in some other threads of mine (thats how it always goes)....but you better hurry. As soon as school starts back up for the Summer, I won't be posting as much...so get it while it's hot.

Byeeee

[creman]

prove my worth...That is between God and me. All else can think what they want

[lanning]

I was just reading a post and I won't call out names unless I am forced by smack talk. So it got me to thinking. I really hate it when someone has an older model car and takes 5,6,7 years to finally get it working right. Especially when tons of other people have made the same power on the same car for years.

I will use 2 cars models as examples since I see it happen most with these.

Toyota Supra. IMO, a 1000 hp Supra is played out. It was done for the first time in 2001 and has been done by every Tom, Dick and Harry at this point. The fact that it took you 6 years to read an article written in Turbo magazine on how to make 1000 hp in a Supra is sad. Once a magazine has given step by step instructions on how to build a car, it's lame and played out. Get a new car. You are not an innovator at this point.

Mitsubishi Eclipse. IMO, breaking a car 11ty billion times before you get it right 6 years later is dumb. It's sad that you spent tens of thousands of dollars on a Mitsubishi. It even more sad that it took you 6 years to run decent times on a car that has run those same times 8 years ago....by many.

Now don't get me wrong. I know that for the every day Joe, these stories my be offensive. They might say, it takes a lot of time and dedication to build a fast car and I know that more than anyone. BUT when you obviously have 10's of thousands of dollars spent on your car several times over after blowing it up several times over or not getting it right several times over, it's gay that it took you so long to get it right when you obviously have money.

Maybe I am spoiled by my experiences. Dan buys a car, makes big power in a few months then sells it and moves on to the next. IMO, that just shows that there are innovators and then there are lame poseurs.

/rant

hey i still like supras lulz

[stillaneon]

yeah, you're good at helping my post count

stillaneon, you have the song name and artist. Do I need to explain google for you?

Nope, but I figured if you refuse to research, then I'm not going out of my way to do it either.

[creman]

Nope, but I figured if you refuse to research, then I'm not going out of my way to do it either.

Touche, but then again that means you're like me. Now that's a problem

[stillaneon]

Touche, but then again that means you're like me. Now that's a problem

No, it means I'm lazy, and I have better things to do than waste my time on something small as some second rate acapella group.

[creman]

well, Its time to wrap things up for the day and get some stuff finished before I head home. Thanks for the fun!

Hopefully I get to meet a few cars from your shop Tracy, it's a great day for a nice run. I hope their at least quick!

[creman]

No, it means I'm lazy, and I have better things to do than waste my time on something small as some second rate acapella group.

why so serious?

Rockapella is the best known group in the world friend. You should check out some of their stuff.

[stillaneon]

why so serious?

Rockapella is the best known group in the world friend. You should check out some of their stuff.

Funny, I thought it would be someone like the Beatle's.

Guess you learn something everyday

[nreggie454]

[Z0_o6]

no shit.


who is this creman douchebag and why in the hell is he even talking? his shit doesn't make any sense its fucking retarded. this is the WL where people state opinions. don't like it? get the fuck on then.

[stillaneon]

no shit.


who is this creman douchebag and why in the hell is he even talking? his shit doesn't make any sense its fucking retarded. this is the WL where people state opinions. don't like it? get the fuck on then.

I would rep you if I could

[GGPIS3]

Now don't get me wrong. I value and enjoy a nicely built car with amazing power...no matter how many times it has been done. To me, it's the attitude and position behind it that counts. You get to act like a badass when you are one of the first....

Other than that, you have a nice car...not an innovative car.

being the first is great and all... but credit is still due to those shops or enthusiasts when they build a car and it runs like a champ. i don't think it matters if they were the first or the last if they built a competent vehicle. some shops will never get it right so for those who do, why not floss it? thats what draws in more business.... now if they built it, it worked, and then they thought they were a god amongst men, then i could see your point. regardless of their attitude, i respect a car if its built well.

[Z0_o6]

being the first is great and all... but credit is still due to those shops or enthusiasts when they build a car and it runs like a champ. i don't think it matters if they were the first or the last if they built a competent vehicle. some shops will never get it right so for those who do, why not floss it? thats what draws in more business.... now if they built it, it worked, and then they thought they were a god amongst men, then i could see your point. regardless of their attitude, i respect a car if its built well.

trust me, its the attitude you described that is the problem. they absolutely believe they are untouchable.

[RedEj8]

w3rd. 7M is tight. Who has done that?

There's a few guys on supramania.com making big numbers.

Go here and look in the 7m section. Guy in Malta has a 7m on a rail dragster making over 1000.

[Z0_o6]

There's a few guys on supramania.com making big numbers.

Go here and look in the 7m section. Guy in Malta has a 7m on a rail dragster making over 1000.

You still got the white supra? This is baker right? (don't want to make assumptions )

[Tracy]

being the first is great and all... but credit is still due to those shops or enthusiasts when they build a car and it runs like a champ. i don't think it matters if they were the first or the last if they built a competent vehicle. some shops will never get it right so for those who do, why not floss it? thats what draws in more business.... now if they built it, it worked, and then they thought they were a god amongst men, then i could see your point. regardless of their attitude, i respect a car if its built well.

I guess you may have overlooked the part where I said if it takes you 6 years to build the same car....it's not innovative. It may be a nice car that is finally finished and up to par, but it's not s cool if you blew it up 50 times in 6 years to get there....That is where my rant comes from. My message may have gotten lost by me not trying to piss of the "little" guys (by that I mean the not shop guys. not in a bad way) I respect people who do a good job on their own cars and understand the time and money restraints on personal cars. It's where Dan got his start.

I do appreciate a nice car, built well that lasts and runs like a champ and I do think that they deserve respect and props and floss all you want. I do not however respect it when it is something that took a very long time to get right....especially when it has been done to death. At that point there is no excuse. And I am trying to limit it to "shop cars" because shops build their own car from beginning to end, presumably. There is no control point when it comes to a customer car. The car may have been to 50 shops by the time it crosses their path. Some things you have no control over. BUT you have total control of your own build as a shop.

That being said, it still kind of irks me when a big headed, long time scener (is that a word?) does the same thing. You know, someone who doesn't have a shop, but might as well since they think they know it all (that prolly didn't come out right, but oh well).

I hope I made myself more clear. This isn't even a recent thing. I am just reflecting and getting in trouble in my boredom.

[Z0_o6]

I know everything. That makes my car awesome, and because of that I will be happy to tell you everything that is wrong with whatever piece of shit you drive. Now, if you bought all the same parts I have I will wish you luck, but secretly wish it blows up on you so I can laugh at your inexperience.

[Tracy]

I know everything. That makes my car awesome, and because of that I will be happy to tell you everything that is wrong with whatever piece of shit you drive. Now, if you bought all the same parts I have I will wish you luck, but secretly wish it blows up on you so I can laugh at your inexperience.

LOL!!!! Tell us how you really feel.

[Z0_o6]

I gotta stop this shit I'm gonna give it all away and turn this into a shit-throwing contest.

[qwick]

if you bought all the same parts I have I will wish you luck, but secretly wish it blows up on you so I can laugh at your inexperience.

lmfao

[sirkus]

If I were to start a shop.. I would build several new cars to show what I can do and what kind of power we can make with tunes. About like BG. I wouldn't just have one super car that has been built 1000x over and work on others. I would build many big number cars. Your shop isnt just building a car then, you're building a group of people that trust that you know your shit about many different setups and ways to make power. If you build custom kits and make crazy reliable power in cars that usually don't make power is what is impressive to me. If a shop takes a car like the Smart.. or a CX7 or a new Ford FLEX and turbo/sc it then they will be known for building something different. Not the same old run of the mill Supra that every other shop has built.

[G.C]

Talking bout supra is played out...... If you have a car that's lower than year 2000, than most likely, you have a played out car! There's nothing wrong with following people's footstep if you're inexperienced with stuff. If you want a reliable, fast car, without having to blow your motor up, than why not copy what other people have proven to be reliable and fast?

[Vteckidd]

But where does it say a 1000whp Supra is bullet proof? I mean you say it took someone 6 years to build a car that is pretty common. Meaning its build, its power is nothing astonishing and it "blew up 50 times" before they for it right.

Well, how many motors did dan pop? Im sure at the level he was competing shit breaks. Isnt that why you guys STOPPED drag racing? i remember something about it being too expensive to compete.

IIRC Dan popped his last motor and called it quits. Quitting when you have practically no sponsors and 8th in the world, thats not something to laugh at. Thats quite an achievment.

But my point is, i can go build a 1000whp supra, and it can blow up. Doesnt mean it was put together wrong or anything. But when you make that kind of power, shit breaks plain and simple.

I think its disengenious to think that a high HP car is capable of never breaking.

[RedEj8]

You still got the white supra? This is baker right? (don't want to make assumptions )

Yes I do and yes. Who is this?

[Z0_o6]

Yes I do and yes. Who is this?

Chris Young. went to central at the same time you did....uhhhh i think you might remember the silver and black two tone CRX, or maybe the black RSX I had. My dad actually put a motor in that supra a few years ago if it's the same one I think it is. The red-headed dude at Audio Zoo used to own it didn't he?

[Z0_o6]

But where does it say a 1000whp Supra is bullet proof? I mean you say it took someone 6 years to build a car that is pretty common. Meaning its build, its power is nothing astonishing and it "blew up 50 times" before they for it right.

Well, how many motors did dan pop? Im sure at the level he was competing shit breaks. Isnt that why you guys STOPPED drag racing? i remember something about it being too expensive to compete.

IIRC Dan popped his last motor and called it quits. Quitting when you have practically no sponsors and 8th in the world, thats not something to laugh at. Thats quite an achievment.

But my point is, i can go build a 1000whp supra, and it can blow up. Doesnt mean it was put together wrong or anything. But when you make that kind of power, shit breaks plain and simple.

I think its disengenious to think that a high HP car is capable of never breaking.

You still can't tell me that a 2JZ is a difficult motor to keep together even at big power

[AFSil80]

(If y'all can put up w/ the mindless babble)

While a lot of the setups are similar and may not be declared as being innovative, they are definitely pushing the envelope. Comparing to everyone else on this list, the only one that really sticks out in my mind is Dave Henry, since he has always been 100% privateer. But it's hard to judge Dan's ranking on here since the time he posted was quite a few years back, and a number of cars on this list have only achieved that status in the last few years. Even DaveH's rank was made last year, and the same goes for SW's 6 speed car. Half of these guys are running setups that have only seen a year's worth of testing, and to see Dan still in the top 20 just speaks for what that car did at the time, IMO. A little bit of background info, when Dan was in the 8's, DaveH was still in the mid-9's. The car he (Dave) has now is a completely different setup with the rear being tubbed out, and forward of the firewall is a tubular chassis.

EDIT: Another one that really stands out was Marko Djuric's car. I remember watching videos of his car in 2005 when I was deployed. That was also right when the 6 speed battle between Ryan Woon and Saad Saad was heating up, and then Paul Efantis kinda popped up and surprised everyone with his 6 speed 'Blue Bomber'. That was a good year in Supra drag racing history, haha.

Anyways, taken off of Supraforums...Top 20 MKIV 1/4 mile times.

1. 7.71@185 Gary White Titan Motorsports 3.4L, Titan GT55, nitrous, PG8.9@163 on the stock 6 speed

2. 7.75 @186.6 Boostlogic ver2 , GT55-91, power glide, NOS spool-up only

3. 7.81 @ 187 Jamie Carter/AP 3.4L "the B" motor GT47-88 w/ nitrous Th400 28" Tall Tire

4. [email protected] Kean Wang BoostLogic 3.4L GT47-88 39 PSI BL400 3150lbs

5. 7.86@182 KRYSTOS EFANTIS MSP RACING 3250lbs DRs best MPH 185.44

6. 7. [email protected] SW/Boost Logic. 6 speed, 3.4L, BL91, NOS, AEM (highest mph 189.7)

7. [email protected] Mustafa Atat driver Al Anabi Qatar Racing Team tuned by Shane T 29 Inch Tall 10.5 tire(slick) - 200 shot SpeedTech nitrous - TH400 trans - Transbrake - GT4788 - 2900 lbs - MoTeC M800/CDI-8 - Precision Turbo Ice Water to Air Intercooler

8. 8.04@172 Dana Westover/Virtual Works Auto GT47-88, full weight

9. 8.04@168 Dave Henry '94 na-t GT4788/AEM/PG/E-98 fuel

10. [email protected] RRev Motorsports(Tim Robards driver) Supra 3.0liter, 47-88 40 psi, nitrous to spool, high compression, methanol, TH400,

11. 8.19@166 Chris Anderson AAP Powerglide

12. [email protected] Ryan Woon. 6 speed, 3.4L stroker, GT55-91, single fogger, 3330lbs

13. [email protected] Saad N Saad Valero In The Zone, 6 speed, ProEFI, 55-91, 150shot

13. 8.38@174 Darin Dichiara 6-speed, 3300 lbs, GT47-88R, 3.0L + nitrous motec m600 28x10.5 ET drags

14. [email protected] Larry Prebis Sound Performance Auto Full weight

15. 8.45@162 Marko D. Sound Performance Full weight daily driver

16. 8.45@158 WOTM/1st Upholstery Auto 3.4L, GT47-88, 3300lbs

17. 8.46@166 Errol@TPS

18. [email protected] SW/Chris Johnson/Boostlogic. 6 speed, 3.4L stroker, BL91 , 3650lbs

19. 8.58@165 Dan Willie Batlground Engineering Auto
10.3@144 6 Speed Drag Radials

20. 8.60@163mph (Fast Forward Motorwerks 94 supra BFG DRAG RADIALS @28.5lbs of boost with 100 shot of NO2)

And seeing the name Phil Panas mentioned on the second page just makes me realize I've been watching from the sidelines for awhile, hahahaha.

[Tracy]

But where does it say a 1000whp Supra is bullet proof? I mean you say it took someone 6 years to build a car that is pretty common. Meaning its build, its power is nothing astonishing and it "blew up 50 times" before they for it right.

Well, how many motors did dan pop? Im sure at the level he was competing shit breaks. Isnt that why you guys STOPPED drag racing? i remember something about it being too expensive to compete.

IIRC Dan popped his last motor and called it quits. Quitting when you have practically no sponsors and 8th in the world, thats not something to laugh at. Thats quite an achievment.

But my point is, i can go build a 1000whp supra, and it can blow up. Doesnt mean it was put together wrong or anything. But when you make that kind of power, shit breaks plain and simple.

I think its disengenious to think that a high HP car is capable of never breaking.

Dan fried his pistons when he first tried to tune it (before he had a shop) anf then he popped the motor after several years running it on the same motor with the progressive build up to the 8 sec car. Like I said, stock pistons and rings. We decided to not pursue it anymore because we just couldn't afford to compete with Titan and MSP. It was a losing battle to try to keep up with 2 sponsored teams with several engines in the trailer backing them up. We had the car from 20001 until 2004 and it popped 2 times. Once at the very beginning (on the one we crashed which most people don't even know about) and once at the very end.

I do hear your point and like my title says. I am a snob and like the title doesn't say I am a hater toward certain things and this is one of them

I'm surprised that no one mentioned us blowing up the Evo. I am fully aware that high HP cars break....but I still know that you know where I am coming from even though you are mincing words.