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    Question Does this make him gay???

    GREELEY, Colorado (CNN) -- It started as a tryst, arranged online, in a quiet town in the shadow of the Rocky Mountains. She was an 18-year-old transgender woman. He was a 32-year-old rough-and-tumble gang member.
    It ended in homicide.

    Jury selection was completed Thursday in the trial of Allen Andrade for the murder of Justin "Angie" Zapata, and opening statements were scheduled later in the day.

    Andrade has been charged with murder plus a bias-motivated crime.
    Zapata was 18 years old in the summer of 2008 when prosecutors say she met Andrade, then 32, on the popular online networking site MocoSpace.

    According to a police affidavit, the two arranged to meet and Zapata brought Andrade to her apartment in Greeley, Colorado, where they spent two days together. During that time, according to the affidavit, Andrade says Zapata performed oral sex on him. When Zapata was out of the apartment, Andrade noticed photographs of Zapata that made him "question victim Zapata's sex."

    When Zapata returned, Andrade confronted her. Zapata declared, "I am all woman." Andrade then grabbed Zapata's crotch and discovered a penis.

    What happened next is gruesome.

    According to the affidavit, Andrade told police he began hitting Zapata with his fists, knocking her to the ground. He then grabbed a fire extinguisher and hit her in the head two times.

    He told police he thought he had "killed it," referring to Zapata, and covered her with a blanket. He then set about trying to clean up the crime scene. While doing this, he heard "gurgling" sounds coming from the victim and saw Zapata sitting up. He hit her again with the fire extinguisher.

    This time Zapata was dead.

    Andrade took Zapata's car and fled. Two weeks later, police discovered the car and arrested Andrade.

    Calls to Andrade's public defender for comment have not been returned.
    The case has become a rallying point for supporters of the transgender community who have held vigils and launched Web sites in remembrance of Zapata. They are calling for the inclusion of transgender people in hate-crime statues across the country and at the federal level. Currently 11 states and the District of Columbia recognize transgender people in their anti-hate crime laws.

    Mindy Barton, legal director for the Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual and Transgender Community Center of Colorado, says this has the makings of a landmark case.
    "We believe this is the first case of any hate crime law being applied in an anti-transgender murder case," Barton says. "A vicious attack such as this, with the evidence of overkill and excessive brutality, leaves the whole transgender community feeling afraid to live their daily lives."

    If convicted of first-degree murder, Andrade will face a mandatory sentence of life in prison without the possibility of parole. The charge of a bias-motivated crime carries only a one- to three-year sentence, but Barton says the length of sentence isn't important.

    "It is not the sentence which is important, but the fact that victims, perpetrators and law enforcement officials recognize that such bigotry and hatred will not be tolerated," she says. "That is the important message when there is a charge and a conviction under a hate-crime law."

    Court officials in Greeley are preparing for possible protests outside the courthouse. The trial is expected to last about two weeks.

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    fuckin mocospace, i hate that shit.....

    And he is most def a homo....


    At least he will be when he gets lock up :idb:

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    yeah wtf is mocospace? i don't think i even want to type that in my browser.

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    lol.
    :idb:

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    He is totally gay and should of just sued for false advertising
    Paul "your bullshit makes the flowers grow"

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    I dont see where the bias motivated crime comes in. He didnt specifically target anyone because of it because of its sex.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BanginJimmy
    I dont see where the bias motivated crime comes in. He didnt specifically target anyone because of it because of its sex.
    It is more of a crime of Passion but it is hate related ... (i can't believe we are discussing the politics of this)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul
    It is more of a crime of Passion but it is hate related ... (i can't believe we are discussing the politics of this)

    But its not hate related. It is "I'm not fucking gay" related.


    I dont care if you are a fudge packer or not but if I kill one of them if they lied to me about it claiming to be a woman.

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    Why the fuck do they keep calling him a her? And I don't think the other dude is gay if he killed the other guy b/c he tricked him..he's just dumb dor not noticing the adams apple.lol.. but it wasn't premeditated murder or anything.

    Mindy Barton, legal director for the Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual and Transgender Community Center of Colorado, says this has the makings of a landmark case.
    "We believe this is the first case of any hate crime law being applied in an anti-transgender murder case," Barton says. "A vicious attack such as this, with the evidence of overkill and excessive brutality, leaves the whole transgender community feeling afraid to live their daily lives." Shit like this pisses me off. yeah they should be scarred for their lives if they're going around trying to pick up straight ppl and tricking them. Thats like bringing a girl back to ur house, hit raw dog style and let her find the papers where it says u got the aids. same thing to me..I would have to kill myself either way

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    I'd hit it.
























    With a fire extinguisher.

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    ^^^bullshit, you'd hit it period.

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    ^^^is ant your bf?

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    Not gay at all. He was receiving head not giving it.

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    Try not. Do or Do not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zodiac117
    Not gay at all. He was receiving head not giving it.
    i say he's still gay by association...

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    Quote Originally Posted by eraser4g63
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