Lol. I'm sarcastic and joking mostly, you're just a prick.Originally Posted by Frög
LOL what about every fucking one of your posts that has the "holier than thou" attitude..
Seriously, look at your post's history..
It is pitiful you have to resort to my car argument.. Usually, only jealous people do that..
And jealous of a your car? Nope. I'd never own one. Sorry chief.
They did.. Once again, you have proven you know nothing about cars.. You claim to like Ferrari when you know nothing about them..
http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/news/au...rrari_suv.html
Ummm ok come on now....
Porsche has always been dominant.
The End.
Actually, no.. I'm sarcastic and joking mostly..
Don't worry I'd trade my balls for your car.
That was fun while it lasted, but I gotta get back to class.
Fuck you guys. I don't care that I'm not responding. You didn't own me. And Ferrari doesn't have a SUV right now, so forget that.
Enjoy driving your nazimobile.
What's wrong with a 500+hp SUV that handles better then half the regular cars on the road, and can still go off roading like a mofo? lol
Pitiful, every car argument you attempted failed..That was fun while it lasted, but I gotta get back to class.
Fuck you guys. I don't care that I'm not responding. You didn't own me. And Ferrari doesn't have a SUV right now, so forget that.
Enjoy driving your nazimobile.
Yes, I will enjoy driving my nazimobile.. in the mean time, enjoy driving your kamikazemobile
Last edited by Frög; 03-25-2009 at 12:17 PM.
No Doubt Porsche as the most successful automotive racing record. Hell they won the dakar rally in 1986.
But Comparing them with Ferrari is a joke. Ferrari doesn't care about anything besides F1. That it.
You mean the 60's Ferrari won. Porsche won 5 times in the 70's. Look it up. And they same reason Ferrari would make a "mommy mobile" would be the same reason they started making production cars in the first place, for RACING.
You have no idea what you're talking about.
I bet he's never even driven one, or a Ferrari.
Ibhesayshehas. LOL. I don't even think Ferrari has won at Le mans since the 60's. ~scratching head~
That's also not true...lol...at all.
They do spend their factory time mostly on F1 yes, but there is Ferrari Challenge, their ALMS effort, FIA effort, etc. True not 100% factory, but hey...they are giving Porsche a run for their money.
LOL
Seriously.. Because if he ever did, he would know Ferrari is completely 100% race centered..
I see EJ25 looking to clear things up lol.
Thank God.
I know he searches Porsche and Ferrari and Le mans daily..
Drive a Ferrari, they aren't nice little luxury sporty cars lol, they are definitely 100% we built a race car now made it for the street.
It is pitiful you have to resort to my car argument.. Usually, only jealous people do that..Don't doubt that.. Hence: "usually" and ""
Not really. First off, Enzo only made street cars to fund his F1 team. He was going to make power tools so making that comparo is a bit off. Choosing where to spend the money is another reason 1972 was the last year Ferrari ran in the world sports car championship.
Porsche's F1 history isn't to shabby either. They won in the 60's with a car of their own construction and in the 80's, the Tag branded McLaren Porsche won 3 consecutive titles for Lauda and Prost.
Porsche has never seen F1 as a viable option for them as the go racing to promote and prove their road cars. It is a fact that Ferry Porsche decided to go racing because he couldn't afford advertising in the 50's.
Ferrari on the other hand exists to race F1. That is why they have participated in every F1 season since 1950.
Uh, make that 70's, 80's and 90's
The reason they havn't returned in the 2000s is because an Audi Porsche rivalry in the same class wouldn't make sense. Besides that, Porsche has spent this decade focusing on GT racing.
Super? Porsche became the third most expensive brand in the world in 2008.
They are slightly behind BMW and Toyota. If anything, they are doing incredibly well. That is why in the next ten years, we will see much more diverse models from their line up.
Uh, yeah it does. If you're taking about the new diesel version, Porsche is above VW which is above Audi. Porsche is estentially GM so any engine from VW group is also Porsche's.
They wont because Ferrari is Italian and represents itself as a purist sports car brand.
Porsche is German and has higher expectations especially in the new economy. As i said earlier, expect new things you didn't expect in the coming years.
Porsche has been #1 in consumer reports initial quality study every year since 2006 and i'm sure they'll take that again in 2009.
Ferrari's are cars that live in garages. Porsches take you anywhere in the world with the owner knowing they will get there with no problems. Ferrari owners dont have that peace of mind.
Side note. You are very opinionated but have no knowledge of what you're taking about. Try to change that.
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On Topic: I didn't have to do my speech today, so i have nearly a week before I have to do mine, lol.
Off Topic:
#1: They are both great car manufacturing companies.
#2: All the Porsche "nut hangers" did completely school you.
#3: I'd love to own at least one of both at some point in my life. I'll make my preferential judgment then, but until then I'll just say I like them both. I've never driven either, though I've sat in a Ferrari (which doesn't mean shit but my ass cheeks > your ass cheeks)
#4: I didn't do my paper on either of them. I did it on a Honda, because I believe Honda is a superior company over all.
Porsche Nutswingers= Really 911 nutswings.
1st
That makes no sense..
2nd
Porsche Nutswingers > Nissan fan boys..
Ahh...i could make an argument for both.
Many years ago, my favorite Porsche was the 550.
Ej25run. Do you believe the Cayman is a Better platform then the 911
who cares about porsche.. i mean its cool if you can afford one, but a ferrari is still a ferrari.
if you can't come up with 4 minutes of interesting shit about ferrari... well then you can probably talk about the cute dress you saw at the mall for about 45 minutes. fagg0t.
2 / 3 = 0.666
First the only car you claim that is a true Pcar is a 911.
Second I am not a nissan fanboy I use to own a 911 Sc
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Five score years ago, a great American, in whose symbolic shadow we stand today, signed the Emancipation Proclamation. This momentous decree came as a great beacon light of hope to millions of Negro slaves who had been seared in the flames of withering injustice. It came as a joyous daybreak to end the long night of their captivity.
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It would be fatal for the nation to overlook the urgency of the moment. This sweltering summer of the Negro's legitimate discontent will not pass until there is an invigorating autumn of freedom and equality. Nineteen sixty-three is not an end, but a beginning. And those who hope that the Negro needed to blow off steam and will now be content will have a rude awakening if the nation returns to business as usual. And there will be neither rest nor tranquility in America until the Negro is granted his citizenship rights. The whirlwinds of revolt will continue to shake the foundations of our nation until the bright day of justice emerges.
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The marvelous new militancy which has engulfed the Negro community must not lead us to a distrust of all white people, for many of our white brothers, as evidenced by their presence here today, have come to realize that their destiny is tied up with our destiny. And they have come to realize that their freedom is inextricably bound to our freedom.
We cannot walk alone.
And as we walk, we must make the pledge that we shall always march ahead.
We cannot turn back.
There are those who are asking the devotees of civil rights, "When will you be satisfied?" We can never be satisfied as long as the Negro is the victim of the unspeakable horrors of police brutality. We can never be satisfied as long as our bodies, heavy with the fatigue of travel, cannot gain lodging in the motels of the highways and the hotels of the cities. We cannot be satisfied as long as the negro's basic mobility is from a smaller ghetto to a larger one. We can never be satisfied as long as our children are stripped of their self-hood and robbed of their dignity by signs stating: "For Whites Only." We cannot be satisfied as long as a Negro in Mississippi cannot vote and a Negro in New York believes he has nothing for which to vote. No, no, we are not satisfied, and we will not be satisfied until "justice rolls down like waters, and righteousness like a mighty stream."š
I am not unmindful that some of you have come here out of great trials and tribulations. Some of you have come fresh from narrow jail cells. And some of you have come from areas where your quest -- quest for freedom left you battered by the storms of persecution and staggered by the winds of police brutality. You have been the veterans of creative suffering. Continue to work with the faith that unearned suffering is redemptive. Go back to Mississippi, go back to Alabama, go back to South Carolina, go back to Georgia, go back to Louisiana, go back to the slums and ghettos of our northern cities, knowing that somehow this situation can and will be changed.
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I have a dream that one day on the red hills of Georgia, the sons of former slaves and the sons of former slave owners will be able to sit down together at the table of brotherhood.
I have a dream that one day even the state of Mississippi, a state sweltering with the heat of injustice, sweltering with the heat of oppression, will be transformed into an oasis of freedom and justice.
I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.
I have a dream today!
I have a dream that one day, down in Alabama, with its vicious racists, with its governor having his lips dripping with the words of "interposition" and "nullification" -- one day right there in Alabama little black boys and black girls will be able to join hands with little white boys and white girls as sisters and brothers.
I have a dream today!
I have a dream that one day every valley shall be exalted, and every hill and mountain shall be made low, the rough places will be made plain, and the crooked places will be made straight; "and the glory of the Lord shall be revealed and all flesh shall see it together."2
This is our hope, and this is the faith that I go back to the South with.
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My country 'tis of thee, sweet land of liberty, of thee I sing.
Land where my fathers died, land of the Pilgrim's pride,
From every mountainside, let freedom ring!
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Free at last! Free at last!
Thank God Almighty, we are free at last!
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