1 in 4 U.S. kids under 5 is Latino

[TheGodfather]

Ah ok, cool.

Yourself?

I am all for a pleasant discussion and you seem to be quite levelheaded. I just hate how hard my family had to work to get by, and how easy latins have it today.

[GsrCrx]

Godfather, my granparents are from sicily, they migrated to Argentina during the world war, thats why my name is Martinelli, and to this day my grandparents speak more italian than spanish.....i dont see anything wrong with it, obviously my parents and my family now live in the united states but does not mean we need to forget our roots.....

[TheGodfather]

Godfather, my granparents are from sicily, they migrated to Argentina during the world war, thats why my name is Martinelli, and to this day my grandparents speak more italian than spanish.....i dont see anything wrong with it, obviously my parents and my family now live in the united states but does not mean we need to forget our roots.....

I love my heritage and wish I could speak some Italian to communicate with my family.

But being the USA means conforming and learning the language. And seeing so many hispanics that don't do it pisses me off, when my Italain relatives worked hard to learn english and get a job.

They didn't have the courtesy of signs in stores being in Italian and English like hispanics get today.

[GsrCrx]

i undestand that man, but that doesntmean life is easy, i mean my whole family speaks english and spanish, being that we are italian descent we dont look latinos but we conseder ourselves latinos, that doesnt make us trash and that we dont work hard for our shit, we busted our asses just like ur ansestors, we now own business, and like i said earlier, i own a lowrider, i represent my race to the fullest wether people like it or not man..... not trying to bash you or nothing but you gota open up ur mind man....

[TheGodfather]

i undestand that man, but that doesntmean life is easy, i mean my whole family speaks english and spanish, being that we are italian descent we dont look latinos but we conseder ourselves latinos, that doesnt make us trash and that we dont work hard for our shit, we busted our asses just like ur ansestors, we now own business, and like i said earlier, i own a lowrider, i represent my race to the fullest wether people like it or not man..... not trying to bash you or nothing but you gota open up ur mind man....

Yeah I hear ya. What I said in this thread was extreme and not fully my feelings of latino people.

I just see so many that seem to have it so easy, and it frustrates me they speak spanish in front of me when I don't know what they are saying.

Being proud of your heritage is a great thing. But when I feel overcrowded and all in your face with hispanic stuff, it bothers me in a way.

I know you work hard and are alot of decent people, hell most hispanics share my Catholic faith. But the way Miami is and alot of New York has become just annoys me.

[Maniacc]

[AirMax95]

Yourself?

I am all for a pleasant discussion and you seem to be quite levelheaded. I just hate how hard my family had to work to get by, and how easy latins have it today.

The exact percentage I am unsure of; Black, Caucasian, and Cherokee Indian.

*Disclaimer: This is not a shot at anyone. This is not an essay, so it may skip a bit. I may elaborate more later. These are my thoughts and opinions about this thread topic.*

I mean, as I read this thread, I remember the racial threads about black people. Like Maniac said, there is an imaginary line that divides the "funny" jokes from the offensive ones. I am not of any hispanic descent so I cannot attest to the mentality/reasoning/feelings of the people in this thread who are of Hispanic descent. I feel as though entering this country illegally is not fair to the American citizens, nor the immigrants here legally obtaining citizenship. The arguement can be made that many of them do take the laborious work that many Americans choose not to do, or do the work for less pay, which in turn destroys the market as such. Then again, Americans have exploited Hispanics in regards to labor until government stepped in to regulate the "under the table" practices by big/small business. Explotation of a problem does nothing to solve it, yet it encourages it.

In regards to the respect factor that Hispanics deserve, they are humans. I am not sure of anyones beliefs or religious followings (other than Maniac's crazy ass, lol), but they are just like us. To generalize and say that all Hispanics are all the derogatory names that were mentioned earlier in this thread is just not right. There are bad rotten ass apples in EVERY race. Find me a race that is 100% goody2shoe and I will......yeah . Threads like this is why I get so pissed in the threads against black people. If you were wronged by a person, don't blame the race. The whole race did not tell or influence Tyrone, Billy, Juan, George Bush, etc. to do the dumb/senseless shit that they do.

As far as illegal anybody in America, it does screw up or economic system. Same goes for the people claiming welfare, because they chose to have children they could not afford, or made overall bad decisions. It frustrates me that many of the illegals do immediately join gangs. It is a fact, from the east to west coasts. It is a fact that many do commit crimes to make ends meet, especially since businesses can receive hefty fines for allowing them to work. I am not sure how the citizenship process works, but I wish that they would just do it the right way. If I pay taxes to live/work/play here, so should everyone else.

Rules are rules, and if you are in the country illegally then you are a part of the problem. Whether you came here to save your family or not. I wish there was a way to help, but the government gets the last call. Purposely jumping a fence is bullshit. They know before hand that they are commiting a crime and be penalized for it. To get angry for breaking a law is stupid. That goes for people IN America as well. There is no excuse.

Not sure if I made any sense, but its my rant

[AirMax95]

Oh, and I hope this thread sheds a little light on why black people feel the way they do about most whites. Think hard before you post.

[BobbyFresco]

So I have a few thoughts I'd like to articulate without being attacked for...

So, I understand feelings on both sides of the argument.

I am Latino/Black but I am a legal American citizen, first and foremost....
I understand that people may have desires to make a better life for themselves and their families...That notion is totally understandable....However, many ppl have issues with the fact that Hispanics do not make their plight, if you will, any easier by not comforming to life here, i.e, speaking the language, obeying laws, etc. and then to feel entitled to rights afforded to Americans?


In an almost simplistic way of explaining it, I would like to present an analogy...

Say for instance someone breaks into my home....Am I going to or should I treat said person as I would a guest or a family member? Why should I give you access to my house and my food and my money if you aren't supposed to be in my home to begin with?


Assimilation is the name of the game. You come here, go through the proper channels that would ensure you the rights that you believe you're entitled to, you study, work hard, learn the language, and no one can fault you for being here..

You come here illegally, have children because that's your shot at having the life that you have been dreaming of since the thought of coming to America has been in your brain. You have no desire to learn English because everywhere you go, business establishments and goverment offices have made it easy on you by translating everything for you or having someone around that will. You have no qualms with being here illegally, driving illegally, and uninsured. Why is all this ok?

There are immigrants that come to this country daily. Russians, Koreans, Italians, Germans, etc....Why don't they have an easy button too? Do you see everything translated for them? Do they have an option to speak to someone in their native tongue when they call to speak to someone at a company for whatever reason? NO....

So why're you so special?

When other foreigners come here on visa's that expire, guess what happens? They are sent back home with the quickness....Why shouldn't a person who has no tangible or legal reason to be here be treated the same?

You want to be in this country so bad yet you will protest in the streets by the hundreds of thousands, waving the flag of your home country...but you expect ppl to be sympathetic to your cause?

[BobbyFresco]

and also, if you hate "fat, lazy Americans" so much then wouldn't you be better suited being back in Mexico, living among all your hard working compadres?


I just don't get it...You come to this country and bitch and protest about rights you have no entitlement to but you won't protest by the hundreds of thousands like you did here ,in your own country, so that life there would be improved....Irony at its finest, if you ask me.

[TheGodfather]

Airmax, I read that and respect it. Makes sense.

And bobbyfresh, your analogy is excellent. And I just don't get why they are how they are. Illegal doesn't entitle you to any rights.

[AirMax95]

Airmax, I read that and respect it. Makes sense.

And bobbyfresh, your analogy is excellent. And I just don't get why they are how they are. Illegal doesn't entitle you to any rights.

Thanks. I respect your position, as well a BobbyFresh, and I agree.

Finding a solution is more frustrating, because whatever it is, American citizens will end up forking the bill.

[BobbyFresco]

Thanks. I respect your position, as well a BobbyFresh, and I agree.

Finding a solution is more frustrating, because whatever it is, American citizens will end up forking the bill.

Exactly....and bragging about taking over a country illegally is not a good look....

I will say however, that the problem does not only involve Mexicans....It just so happens that, and I'm not sure on any factual numbers, Mexi's probably account for a good portion of illegals in America...

[BobbyFresco]

To anyone who doesn't see what is being said here.....Let me come to your house, because I feel like your house is better than mine and I'm going to do it uninvited....and sleep in YOUR bed, eat up all your food, make a fucking mess through out, run your electric bill sky high, and tell you that there isn't shit you can't do about it and tell me you wouldn't want me to get the fuck out.

[stephen]

i'm just curious...has anyone taken a look at the "sample questions" for the citizenship test???

http://usgovinfo.about.com/blinstst.htm

both sides have created some decent arguments, so i just started searching google for what it takes to get citizenship. i'll have to admit...i doubt 50% of the ADULT population who were born/raised/schooled in america could pass that test.

anyhow...airmaxx, bobbyfresh, and other fellow brown people...save your strength. who knows when we'll be back on the frontlines.

maniac, gsrcrx, and other hispanics...good luck, and godspeed!

[TheGodfather]

i'm just curious...has anyone taken a look at the "sample questions" for the citizenship test???

http://usgovinfo.about.com/blinstst.htm

both sides have created some decent arguments, so i just started searching google for what it takes to get citizenship. i'll have to admit...i doubt 50% of the ADULT population who were born/raised/schooled in america could pass that test.

anyhow...airmaxx, bobbyfresh, and other fellow brown people...save your strength. who knows when we'll be back on the frontlines.

maniac, gsrcrx, and other hispanics...good luck, and godspeed!

I could easily.

Funny thing is, there is a new one they started using in Oct 08 that gives multiple correct answers! What a scam, if anything make it harder.

They should be required to read a few pages, write a few pages, and speak a few sentences in english too.

[MrBoostedCRX]

Hahaha you stupid prick. Atlanta is a place I've frequented before and know alot of people. So off my nuts boy.

And I was born in Corona you stupid fuck, it used to be ALL ITALIANS, when the hood was still nice. But now it's a shithole full of all you dirty rotten non english speaking latin fucks.

I live in Ozone Park now, with quite a few white people you illegal fuck, and frequent Flushing and Howard Beach.

I've gone back to my old house in Corona wearing a shirt that says speak english or die, an SOD band shirt, and not one person said shit.

PROBABLY BECAUSE THEY CAN'T FUCKING READ IT! AHAHAHHAHAHA.

Alot of NY was founded by Irish, Italians, and some Germans, now the idiot illegal population is taking over and ruining my great state and my great city.

I really want to put all of you people on a boat and ship you over to Africa so they can have some slaves and stop being mad at whitey.

Sidenote: you are all illegals and all mexicans to me. I don't give a shit what kind of mexican you think you are.

im not going to say nothing about your pussy ass anymore, you're just a joke until u prove me wrong, u started talking shit so imma wait till you come down here...how the fuck do we know your in new york? what if u tell us to go and u not there?

im always at the thursday meet and its proven by pics...so whenever your ready to talk to "illegal" people, PM me...now thats a bet imma wait for!!!

[Maniacc]

I could easily.

Funny thing is, there is a new one they started using in Oct 08 that gives multiple correct answers! What a scam, if anything make it harder.

They should be required to read a few pages, write a few pages, and speak a few sentences in english too.

I could easily too.

And reading/writing/speaking a few sentences in English would be super easy for me!

i'm just curious...has anyone taken a look at the "sample questions" for the citizenship test???

http://usgovinfo.about.com/blinstst.htm

both sides have created some decent arguments, so i just started searching google for what it takes to get citizenship. i'll have to admit...i doubt 50% of the ADULT population who were born/raised/schooled in america could pass that test.

anyhow...airmaxx, bobbyfresh, and other fellow brown people...save your strength. who knows when we'll be back on the frontlines.

maniac, gsrcrx, and other hispanics...good luck, and godspeed!

Thanks, Stephen.

I'm going to be getting started on my whole illegal status REAL SOON. I'm so excited!

and also, if you hate "fat, lazy Americans" so much then wouldn't you be better suited being back in Mexico, living among all your hard working compadres?


I just don't get it...You come to this country and bitch and protest about rights you have no entitlement to but you won't protest by the hundreds of thousands like you did here ,in your own country, so that life there would be improved....Irony at its finest, if you ask me.

Fuck mexicans.

I hate my own kind. Haha, I'm one of the whitest mexicans around - I'd get ass raped and skull fucked if I were to go back to Mexico! I'd get made fun of for not speaking spanish either lol.

Say for instance someone breaks into my home....Am I going to or should I treat said person as I would a guest or a family member? Why should I give you access to my house and my food and my money if you aren't supposed to be in my home to begin with?

I've never liked this analogy. Because although it's technically correct the United States can NOT be compared to a one story home. If someone wants to compare it they have to get atleast a little bit more realistic with it.