Good read, and i signed of course.
Good read, and i signed of course.
This may be the only thing I will ever agree with you on and thats why I will not signOriginally Posted by BanginJimmy
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why not force people to do a 3 day training course before obtaining a ccw permit? It will only help you guys' cause, and would make a lot of people feel a lot better about people carrying anywhere.
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absolutely. Majority of the self taught/ dad taught people were taught improperly. I have stopped going to the range on the weekends for this reason. Everyone thinks they know how to handle a weapon, when they dont. Very scary.
I too carry essentially all the time.
"owning a pistol makes you no more armed than owning a guitar makes you a musician" - Jeff Cooper. 100% true.
"The 1911 is a collection of subsystems that must work together. Each part must be prepared and fit properly not only in and of itself, but also with regard to the other parts with which it must operate for the gun to function and appear as desired."
as i said, its unconstitutional. Not saying it wont happen though, but i am 100% against it.
"The 1911 is a collection of subsystems that must work together. Each part must be prepared and fit properly not only in and of itself, but also with regard to the other parts with which it must operate for the gun to function and appear as desired."
I am also against it, but I have no issues with requiring a weapons handling test, sort of like the written test to get your license. They cannot stop you from owning a weapon as that is a right, but the CCW is a privilege.
Yep, cause if I get shot in the ass b/c you can't properly opperate a weapon in self-defense I will be extremely pissed; and in pain.
I'm planning on getting my GFL here in the next month, but am curious about the OP's statement saying "if you don't have one, get one". Are the requirements changing to where it will be harder to get a license now???
Forgive my ignorance on this as my brain never works right on Tuesdays.
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1) This bill would allow people who have had misdemeanor marijuana and concealment charges to be able to apply for the license, not felony charges. The original idea for this section came from a guy here in GA who had a misdemeanor marijuana posession charge 30+ years ago as a teenager, who now is a responsible adult and community leader. Due to a charge where he only had to pay a fine originally, he now cannot get a GFL. A misdemeanor marijuana charge is less than one ounce. It would be different if they wanted to allow people with felony drug charges to obtain a GFL, but that is not the case. As for the previous concealed weapons charges. That is also for misdemeanor charges only. For Example, if you are pulled over and the police decide to search your car and they find a pocket knife in the glove box, that is technically a concealed weapon, and would bring misdemeanor concealed weapon charges. Felony concealed weapons charges usually involve a weapon being concealed to commit a crime.
2) it would be a violation of your second amendment rights to require firearm training to obtain a GFL. However, I do agree that firearm training is a MUST for people who get the permit so they can actually carry the weapon. Most people get it to carry a firearm in their car, and never or very rarely carry it on their person. It is the responsibility of the individual to obtain proper training.
3) A micro-uzi counts is a pistol, which can already be concealed (semi auto version). People cannot buy fully automatic weapons anyway, so the concealment of such weapons is not an issue. Only people with a class 2 manufacturers FFL or a class 3 FFL can possess fully automatic firearms. However, any fully auto weapon manufactured before 1986 can be owned by a person if a tax stamp is purchased (which involves a background check, and also allows the gov't the power to search/seize your property at any time).
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I realize that, but I still think that it should disqualify you from obtaining a weapon. A good friend of mine has a domestic violence charge on his record because his GF was pissed at him. He never touched her (I was there) yet he still cannot leagally own a firearm. People that are no threat do sometimes get caught in the net, but I would rather 10 people that are not a threat being denied because of a misdemenor than 1 person that is.
I know it does, but there still needs to be some type of training for a carry license. That is not a right in any form or fashion.
I find it ahrd to belive that a micro uzi is classified as a pistol but I will take your word for it. That still doesnt account for the shotgun under the trenchcoat. There needs to be some very strict wording on what is considered concealable and what is not.
Concealed? but GA is a open carry state? So what is exactly changing? Besides the whole misdemeanor thing, that i do not agree with...
I have my GFL and I Honestly prefer to stay the way it is right now
BTW, I do not want a Conceal permit.. Even though I do not OC anyways..But sometimes is needed...
I want my Class II license
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GA is not an open carry state. You have to have a GFL to open carry just like you have to have a GFL to conceal carry. GA is one of few states left that do not allow open carry without a license.
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do you honestly believe that if someone wanted to conceal a shotgun under a trenchcoat to go on a killing spree that not having a permit to carry would stop them??? Do you think that just because this bill proposes to make all weapons concealable that more crazy's will start wearing trenchcoats with shotguns under them???
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# 1039.
when i turn 21 im planning to get a Concealed carrying license. Its a just in case sort of thing for me. Dont really plan on ever having to use it.
Sorry.. I knew that.. I guess I didn't word it right... my bad.
I still think you need your GFL to have any weapon on you.. OC or Concealed.....
With the GFL... you can open carry or conceal...
No concealed license
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thanks to everyone who has signed!!!
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so is it illegal for me to carry a butterfly knife?
oops
Signed!
You're gonna carry a gun and do what with it...
I like guns but walking around with one in your pocket is just stupid.
I beg to differ, you seem like the idiot here.
You seem like the paranoid republican redneck here
You seem like the paranoid republican redneck here
even paranoids have enemies.
Since I have started carrying mine, I have pulled it on someone once but luckily never had to use it.
If you're that ignorant to the facts then that's your own fault.You seem like the paranoid republican redneck here
@ you thinking only a few people (paranoid repubican rednecks) carry. A lot of people carry and nobody ever knows (like you) and thats the point.
as many as it takes. good post and i signed.
yes
I enjoy shooting and I like guns (as in a neat piece of machinery, not as in I feel more like a man when I have one in my pocket type thing). And I support being able to own one and taking it to the shooting range. But I do not support everybody carrying it around everywhere, wtf. Kids walk to school in the streets, little teenage girls go shopping by themselves at the mall, cops catch you for driving by a stop sign, etc. You live in the USA, not fucking Somalia.
Signed.
i signed it
wtf does kids walking in the streets or little girls at the mall have to do with it? Do you think that just because someone applies for a GFL and the state approves them that they are going to go out and shoot little kids walking to school or little girls at the mall. What kind of dumb shit are you thinking? Hundreds of thousands of people in GA already have a GFL. You probably pass people every single day who have a GFL and are concealing a pistol, and never even know it. The type of person who has a clean record and takes the time to apply for the license so they can carry a pistol legally and do things the right way is not the kind of person who is going to go out and shoot innocent people. Criminals who have a past record and do not have a license to carry a firearm legally are the types who are most likely to be involved with violent crimes than someone who has a GFL and carrys a pistol for personal protection only. I've had mine for 3 years, and I carry everywhere except work. I've never had to pull mine, but there have been times when I thought I may have to, and having the extra sense of security and being able to stay calm was able to get me through the situation. One time a guy walked up to me in an empty parking lot when I was leaving a store around 9pm in Macon. I was putting bags in the car when I saw this crackhead motherfucker coming up. He had one hand in his coat and the other hand was clinched into a fist. I didn't even give him a chance to try to rob me, I opened my coat and he saw me start to take my pistol out of the holster and he turned around and walked off. Just having the pistol on me made a difference in being robbed and possibly injured.
If you honestly think that people who have a GFL (Which means they have a perfectly clean record by default) are going to go around shooting innocent people, you really are an idiot.
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You did not get what I said at all. If the little girls (who dont own guns) are safe on the streets, so are you. That's what I meant. You need to grow some balls if you don't feel safe without carrying a gun in 99.999% of Georgia. Its over the top, you will probably never use it and you know it. I lived downtown for 2 years, one of those I worked in College Park, the other one in midtown but I had to give rides to a coworker who lived in Bankhead, and Im a skinny white guy. If you are worried about your safety you either hang out with shady people, or you go to areas which are known not to be safe at ridiculous hours at night. Otherwise leave your piece at home.
Why should I avoid going to a friends house just because he lives on the wrong side of the tracks?
As I sid, I have had to pull mine 1 time in the year or so I have started carrying. I would rather have one on me and not need i than need it and not have it. Do you remember that hiker that was in the GA mounties when she was kidnapped, raped and murdered? She had a concealed carry license, but she left her pistol at home because she was going to a state park where they were not allowed. Now they are allowed in state parks. Just think of the difference for her family if she was carrying that day.
I hope I never have to use it. I will do anything in my power to keep from pulling that trigger, but I'll be damned if I am someplace that I could be carrying and not have it with me when I need to pull that trigger.
I don't know where you live, but where I live little girls don't go to the mall by themselves. I work in Macon, and spend a lot of time in town there. If you lived there you would learn to carry a gun fast. You seem very naive about how things are in the world. There are a lot of fucked up people who wouldn't think twice about killing you for the $5 in your pocket. I hope I never have to use my firearm on a person, but in this world we live in, the chance is always there that you may run into someone who will take your life for $5 just so they can buy some crack.
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There are three kind of people in the world:
Sheep - people like you who walk around everyday completely oblivious to what is going on in the world around you.
Wolves - Criminals - people who prey on sheep. You!!!
Sheppards - People like us who are aware of what's going on around us. Always looking for the wolves and protecting the sheep. You better hope a sheppard is around when a wolf is robbing you and your girlfriend/boyfriend at gunpoint.
As a matter of fact, why don't you post a picture of yourself on here so we all know that we need to act on your behalf if we ever see you getting robbed.
I carry my handgun everywhere I go. Even to church.
By the way, I signed.
signed
agreed.....Id rather have it if the time comes then not, you know?
I already have a concealed carry permit and carry my gun most of the time. Especially now that there have been 80 armed robberies in Macon since Jan 1st and the cops have had to create a "robbery task force" to deal with it.
Those saying carrying a concealed weapon LEGALLY are ignorant and need to stfu and gtfo.
If you feel safe not carrying a weapon of any kind then fine, don't do it.But leave those of us who want to carry alone. Don't come crying when you get mugged/car jacked/stabbed/ robbed in a store/ your girlfriend,wife or little girls raped right in front of you while you watch helplessly.
-A gun is what puts a 120lb woman on equal grounds with a 220lb man wanting to rape/beat them.
-A gun is what puts the gay guy walking down the street alone on equal grounds with a pack of drunk rednecks looking for a faggot to beat the hell out of.
Take your hippy shit elsewhere-This is the 2nd amendment thread.
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