i just want to let u know that we are in the same page.

Quote Originally Posted by VegetaRules
Ooooo, I guess you told me huh? I read exactly what you said. Whether you added that at the end or not, the prevailing thought was " we do what y'll won't do". Period, it's the 1st thing that comes out of an illegals mouth whenever this subject is brought up.

It was also the 1st thing that came out of your mouth as well, which was the entire point. Had you prefaced it by saying "but on the other hand they are taking from the ones that are supposed to be here. both natives and immigrants.", then we wouldn't have a problem.

Also I don't care if you felt your time was wasted, this is my opinion, just like yours is yours. I know exactly what I meant & what I said. Also, let's please not get into compairing brain cells son, you'd lose horribly & it wouldn't be close....Vegeta
im not ur son. get it right, son.
the first thing that came out of my mouth was "i have mixed feeling about this, i for one ..."


true "they do what the americans or citizens" so i guess the problems start with employers because they give them jobs.

Quote Originally Posted by VegetaRules
Okay, now this is the statement I hate the most whenever this topic is brought up. Americans would do all these job illegals do, we just won't do them for $5 an hour, because we pay taxes on it, while illegals don't!!

I hate that shyt, I'd mow a mofo's grass if he paid properly, but most illegals don't, since you're not paying taxes, you can "bring down" the proper payscale for these " jobsmost Americans won't do".

The best way to put it is like this. Mowing 10 acres per se' is a $15 per hour job. The owner of set property knows that, so he sends out job position. 3 people apply; 1 African-American, 1 White person, & 1 hispanic.

The white & black people KNOW the jobs worth $15, but the hispanic guy says " hey, I'll do it for $8 & bring a friend who'll do it for $6. Naturally the guys going for the cheaper alternatives.

So now his buddies see they can get cheap labor, now all of a sudden $8 is the going rate for that job, when it should be closer to $13-14 whatever. That's where I have the biggest problem.

The illegal ones are just happy to be here making money, since they take most of it & send it home to rebuild their house, or buy a house, ect. So they deflate the job market, & make jobs that used to be paid higher lower, so only they can really afford to do it, because again, no taxes, the workers in US pay for the health insurance as well.

So it's not just as simple as saying " oh we'll do what you Amreicans won't do".....Vegeta
i wasn't going to get into this post but i guess i have to.

"The best way to put it is like this. Mowing 10 acres per se' is a $15 per hour job. The owner of set property knows that, so he sends out job position. 3 people apply; 1 African-American, 1 White person, & 1 hispanic.

The white & black people KNOW the jobs worth $15, but the hispanic guy says " hey, I'll do it for $8 & bring a friend who'll do it for $6. Naturally the guys going for the cheaper alternatives."

so naturally the guys going for the cheaper alternatives? well i guess the "immigrant" its trying to make a living by accepting the cheapest alternative. again the employer could say no and either hire the african-american and/or the "white person".

"The illegal ones are just happy to be here making money, since they take most of it & send it home to rebuild their house, or buy a house, ect. So they deflate the job market, & make jobs that used to be paid higher lower, so only they can really afford to do it, because again, no taxes, the workers in US pay for the health insurance as well."

alot of them actually do pay taxes, but what sucks most of them can file for taxes like we do around this time of year. why? because they have bogus tax id's or socials. and yes wouldnt u be happy of making money that wasnt available to u back home? im sorry buddy but as a person people have to look for a better way of living. but they should do it legally.

now lets turn this around, where do most of ur clothing come from, look around and tell me one thing that was made in the USA??? im pretty sure u can point a thing or two out... do i need to tell you why??? or do u know already???