Originally Posted by AirMax95
We already have to trust the govt to edumacate us, how could enforcing personal resposnibility be any worse?
Originally Posted by AirMax95
We already have to trust the govt to edumacate us, how could enforcing personal resposnibility be any worse?
That is true, but read the following line in my post.Originally Posted by BanginJimmy
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I have been avoiding this question for a while. If he really is a bad president, we will hear about our racist society if he is booted out of office? Will we still heard Michelle Obama tell us how she is proud of her country?Originally Posted by AirMax95
My guess is that we will hear about Americans being racist and never really giving him a chance. We will hear how republicans flexed their muscles and sabotaged him because of their racist beliefs.
Originally Posted by AirMax95
Originally Posted by AirMax95
This is true, but I am not talking about educating the next Bill Gates or Warren Buffett. I am talking about educating that mid-level supervisor at Sony, or that guy that worked on the assembly line that was just promoted to lead.
People that go on to college are 100% responsible for the content and quality of the education they receive. People that goto public schools have little say in the curriculum they are forcd to endure and their only say in the quality is the effort they put into it.
I am really believing that we will rise above it. I hope that black people don't take it for "the man" putting Obama down. I also hope that white people wont go around attempting to take credit for all the good that may be done. Now if there are clear instances where something occured, that can open a new discussion.Originally Posted by BanginJimmy
He is a man first......
LOL @ BangingJimmy sniffing out this thread. Seriously, the sour act is not a good look.
Get over it.
He won.
The ppl of this country elected him, fair and square. The people of this country, not just Black ppl. Every race, creed, ethnicity and religion.
Today history is being made, whether some of you comprehend and or like it.
No amount of bitching is going to change that and seriously, how has this election impacted you on a day to day, personal basis?
You don't care for the historical significance of today then it's quite simple: Keep it moving and live your life the way you have been for the past 8 years...Not giving a fuck.
Well thats kinda what I was getting at, my word choice could have been a little more direct. Those that don't get it, never will past grade school. I don't think that those subjects are pushed hard enough in school, nor are they taken serious enough in college. If someone leaves with the basic knowledge in grade school, then they SHOULD be able to function in socitey, lol.Originally Posted by BanginJimmy
Airmax, Where did you get that quote in your sig? That has to be one of the of the most anti capitalist things I have ever read.
Originally Posted by BanginJimmy
Hasn't unregulated capitalism been partly responsible for the financial mess we are in presently?
Michael Eric Dyson, "Come Hell Or High Water: Hurricane Katrina and the Color of Disaster"Originally Posted by BanginJimmy
Before you continue to comment, do you fully understand the quote?
Originally Posted by AirMax95
I am taking the quote at face value, not in any context.
So, what are you getting from it?Originally Posted by BanginJimmy
The mess we are in is partly greed, partly legislation, and partly bad business decisions.Originally Posted by BobbyFresh
The CFR amendments of 93 pretty much forced banks to lend to under or unqualified people. This created a HUGE shortage in housing. That is where greed stepped in. The huge rises in housing prices, the huge influx of "predatory" loans, and the huge changes in the mortages brokerage markets. Before long we had major lending institutions adding huge amounts of these risky assets to their portfolio which turn out ot be horrible business decisions. When the crash came these lending institutions were stuck with al of these bad assets and have been eating them ever since.
A society that allows some to become wealthy while other are not wealthy is an injustice. No matter what those who have wealth do to help those that do not, the wealthy are still just supporting this form of injustice.Originally Posted by AirMax95
In more simple terms, it is an injustice for some people to have more than others.
I think you missed what I was trying to say. What I meant was that if the public education system was responsible for explaining politics and the inner workings and bullshit of how our government works. You would see the biggest influx of idiots claiming to know what they are taling about because their senior high schoool teacher spit out whatever the teachers union party line is.Originally Posted by AirMax95
I just find it disgusting that the media has turned "black president'' into a fucking commercialized fad. Obama shirts, obama stickers, obama underwear, obama this obama that. It's fucking disgusting. And it's a damn shame that they (the media) has turned something as important and serious as the innaugeration into the fucking MTV music video awards. Also i have a huge problem with the gun legislation obama intends to pass before he does shit about the hurting housing market. Glad to see he's focusing on the REAL issues.
Kids my brother's age through 25 have turned the obama fad into something insane, usually you can depend on college kids to rally for the liberal candidate during election time but not to the extent where you become an outcast of their society if you're not on the boat. My generation has become an army of mindless sheep just following the herd and it pisses me off /rant.
I agree. Public school systems are not the place to teach how politics work. Most high school teachers tend to think they know everything and just shovel shit down their students' throats.Originally Posted by redGT
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Haha.Originally Posted by BanginJimmy
I blame the lenders' greed.
I blame the govt for making regulations to drop the requirements to get a loan as not to offend those who are members of the "financial risk" group.
anyone watching the inauguration?
on in the other room where I can hear it, but not watching.Originally Posted by K20Z1
Originally Posted by alpine_aw11
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I get that completely, trust me. We CANNOT rely soley on our public (or private) education systems as the end all for knowledge. What I am saying though is that the education system is not going anywhere. We need to constantly improve and monitor the curriculum. Everyone, for the most part, goes through it. We need to improve on it and hope that the student can think over and beyond it. Flaws will be found and challenged by the big thinkers and over achievers.Originally Posted by redGT
He means in the political sense not the actual technical sense.Originally Posted by TIGERJC
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I agree, but look at how many times in the last few years test requirements, and guidelines have been relaxed to apease one demographic or another. This is hurting us as a country and not helping a single person.Originally Posted by AirMax95
it's like the circus came to town, except town = the whole goddamn country...
Should've said politics....will edit. Every class I've had that got into the actual political spectrum turned into a shit-throwing fest between a bunch of ignorant dumbasses.Originally Posted by TIGERJC
Aretha Frankin just butchered "My Country tis of Thee"
Glad I'm not the only one who thought so.Originally Posted by BanginJimmy
wow stumble much? Either way congratulations mr. president
He had to have been nervous as hell so I will definately give him a pass on that one.Originally Posted by redGT
you think? LOL. Just messin with everyoneOriginally Posted by BanginJimmy
from bush to obama, I would even call that stumble unless you miss the last 8 years of presidential speeches.Originally Posted by redGT
Of course I am j/k
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Anyone that has seen Obama off the teleprompter would say that he made Bush look like the greatest orater to ever walk the earth though.Originally Posted by TIGERJC
im still tryin to figre out who is "they" you all were referring to...what is this some sort of competition? us versus them?
and for the record I did watch every presidentual inaugaration in school. I don't know why anyone would think they wouldn't. I can remember all the way back to clinton, that we watched it.
who are you talking to or about?Originally Posted by JITB
I was just referring to the simple minds ont the first pages... I didn't bother reading after. just posted.Originally Posted by BanginJimmy
I cant remember when politics was NOT a competition between the parties. Both are trying to trick the masses into thinking they are right and the other side is wrong and evil. Havent you turned on a news channel for the last 8 years?Originally Posted by JITB
He seemed very nervous and shit, why shouldn't he be?