You started off in this topic so well. Please don't trash it now.Originally Posted by Maniacurabus06
You started off in this topic so well. Please don't trash it now.
X2 yo.
Fiiiiiine!
I think the true question here isn't how/why, but what... WHAT WOULD YOU DO DIFFERENT IF THEIR WASN'T SUCH ESTABLISHMENTS OR TIES TO BIND YOU? WHAT IF... YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO PAY TAXES, WEREN'T MARRIED, DIDN'T HAVE KIDS, KNEW THERE WASN'T A HEAVEN/HELL, NO GODS, NO MASTERS, ETC.
Whatever I wanted to at any given time. It's a rather vague question.
the metaphor being you reap what you sew..... good or bad... what goes around comes around... (yeah now that song is in my head too)... some people believe in karma.. some don't.. the way i'm relating it to this topic is... in your world... if i decided for myself what was good or bad being raised the way i was.. i would still not just take from others.. i wouldn't kill unjustly.. i would still be a good natured person.. and would most likely do fine for myself... i'd sew good seeds... and i'd reap what i sewed.... if i had sewn bad seeds.. killing/thieving/raping... well i'd be willing to bet someone would be pissed off at me.. and be prolly trying to kill me themselves....
just like in todays society.. if you do well by others and don't break rules.. you don't get in trouble...
but if you're "bad"... then you get punished for it...
going back to what i said earlier... the rules in place are to preserve life on this planet.. be it ours or the animals we share it with..... and i think you're getting too personal on this... it's not what laws i want to make against what you feel is or isn't right... getting that from this statement "Why should there be laws governing my actions if they do not necessarily agree with your own?" again it's a group effort to get these laws... it's not one man vs another..
if 10 out of 9 people feel it's wrong to do something... well.. most likely it's wrong... ya know?? based on our "gut/human instinct"
that is obvious - but what would you do right now! you wouldn't make a thread and people wouldn't agree unless they saw things in their life they don't like or that they want to change.
100% freedom is like winning the lotto in my eyes - what would you change today w/ such freedom?
After having been exposed to the internet, I'm addicted to it and I have withdrawals if I have to go without.
i'd steal IA........... muahahahahah!!!!
I feel that it should be your own decision to do what you deem fit as right or wrong. I'm not going to enforce onto you my morals or code of ethics, but I would expect the same respect in return. You have the freedom to do so or not. That's the beauty of it. Live by your own standards and by what you deem is just. If you believe that God will punish you for being bad, then live accordingly to what you believe. You simply have no right to tell others that they're wrong. This goes for all things, not just religion.
No. If 9 people feel that it is wrong then it is wrong for those 9 people. If that 1 does not feel it is wrong, then it's not. Not for him anyway. This is not a case of majority rule.
I follow you now. Though the question is difficult to answer without being faced with the situation. I would wander the world aimlessly perhaps. Who knows? I've never been completely free so I can't adequately answer your question.
i agree that the strong will lead the weak. and i do believe that it is human nature to look for answers, and if you dont find them within, then you look to the person that you feel has them.
i think that if establishment waa destroyed and we were set back hundreds of years. and we were all a bunch of naked native amaericans running around, we would still use our human instinct, vote on a leader, follow this leader, create some kind of board of officials and continue to evolve from there.
not because the strong lead the weak, this can go one of two ways. the strongest controls the weak and he can create rules and regulations that benefit the common good of everyone, or they can create rules and regulations that benefit them and them alone.
example of strong leading the weak for good: US gov is in theory, for the people. (noted that everyone makes mistakes.)
example of strong leading the weak gone wrong: monarchies or governments that set forth laws that people are required to provide leaders with possesions and position.
by choosing to disband the goverment, you are setting us back thousands of years and attempting to stray away from human nature. you take the risk of allowing the evil take over and create something much much worse.
"COREY BLADE SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU RETARD, YOU SCAMMED SOMEONE YOU HAVE NO ROOM TO TALK!""nah bitch stfu you little yellow snot rocket ricer.
They were rota's mother fucker!"
see this brings up another point - enslavement creates direction/focus and creates needs/wants.
Human faults at their finest hmm?
If you think the US Government acts on behalf of the people then you're out of your mind.
It's a risk worth taking in my opinion. Also, how would giving humanity a clean slate be setting anything back? Setting what back? These materialistic and superficial distractions? No loss there.
I disagree. Basic nature creates focus and needs/wants. I'd rather be enslaved to my own basic drives then to the authority of others.
fine you alone choose to commit murder because you feel that it is your right because you do not have to follow majority rule. thats fine and dandy. but it goes both ways. the government will then choose to use their rights (as you have described) and take you into custody by force, strap you down in a chair, and flip the switch and watch you die.
thes is using your theory of freedom
"COREY BLADE SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU RETARD, YOU SCAMMED SOMEONE YOU HAVE NO ROOM TO TALK!""nah bitch stfu you little yellow snot rocket ricer.
They were rota's mother fucker!"
You cant blame society for the situation you are in right now. You are there because of choices you made. There are definitely people out there living life to the fullest, and no theyre not all rich. You can only be enslaved by the system if you let it.
You should go on your Japan trip or something.
technically everyone is born into slavery - it would be different if you were born and left to fend for yourself like many animals; instead you are molded into what your environment is.
actually... in your world.. i have every right to tell you you're wrong... then kill you for saying otherwise...
whore...
lol...
great thread ran.. honestly... i'd stick around but i gotta do some work!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PEACE!
I'm actually pretty impressed by Pauls' posts ITT.
explain? did you think i was ultra conservative?
explain.
(noted that everyone makes mistakes.) how does it not act on behalf of the people if they were voted for by the people as representatives??? if you have we have voted for someone who has failed our high hopes, then thats our fault.
well thats fine, according to your theory, you have every right to disband the government, but they have every right to fight back
"COREY BLADE SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU RETARD, YOU SCAMMED SOMEONE YOU HAVE NO ROOM TO TALK!""nah bitch stfu you little yellow snot rocket ricer.
They were rota's mother fucker!"
Good counter argument and it's fears of such repercussions that keep many and myself from doing such acts. I simply do not agree in the majority rule premise and it's one of the reasons behind this thread. Nice job.
While the trip was initially a seperate case, it has begun to cross my mind again.
Exactly. Turn about is fair play and I'm willing to accept that.
Do what you feel you need to do man. Thanks for the replies.
i agree. i have really enjoyed this debate
"COREY BLADE SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU RETARD, YOU SCAMMED SOMEONE YOU HAVE NO ROOM TO TALK!""nah bitch stfu you little yellow snot rocket ricer.
They were rota's mother fucker!"
Not at all. I know that you're not religious and that you are a Obama supporter - but just the fact that a lot of your posts in here are pretty interesting makes me believe that you're not as dumb as I first thought you were. lol
please dont get me wrong. i really like your theory. i would just want it to be for good, and not until a new government is formed. which i am afraid is innevitable. if you read my first post, i struggle so much with hating the way things are but all i can do is look to myself to change the outcome.Good counter argument and it's fears of such repercussions that keep many and myself from doing such acts. I simply do not agree in the majority rule premise and it's one of the reasons behind this thread. Nice job.
good stuff though
"COREY BLADE SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU RETARD, YOU SCAMMED SOMEONE YOU HAVE NO ROOM TO TALK!""nah bitch stfu you little yellow snot rocket ricer.
They were rota's mother fucker!"
Everyone wants to be led. There is no drive to live anymore. Just the persuit of simple content. I can't help but feel that this is a very sad world we're in.
Again, you're focusing on the majority rule factor. I do not agree with that. I believe in personal resolve. What 3/5 people vote to pass should not govern what the other 2/5 must do. These impressions of republics or democracies are laughable at best. You may argue that they're the best humanity has to offer. I laugh at humanities "best".
I won't contest that. I simply wish there more that shared the same drive.
Thanx
Depends on your definition of slavery. I wouldn't call that slavery... I'd call it conditioning. That has nothing to do with anyone having power over you...
I reluctantly agree with you on the innevitable outcome. People are lazi and undriven. They seek only that which they want to get it with the least amount of work. By conceding to this, they let other run their lives for them in persuit of a more leisurely lifestyle. It's a sickening sacrifice.
i agree 100%.
i dont want to just exist anymore. i want to really LIVE
"COREY BLADE SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU RETARD, YOU SCAMMED SOMEONE YOU HAVE NO ROOM TO TALK!""nah bitch stfu you little yellow snot rocket ricer.
They were rota's mother fucker!"
I wouldn't go throwing mass generalizations like that around... I know that's what it seems like from your point of view, but realize that you live in Georgia. Georgia isn't the best place to draw conclusions about our society as a whole...
I can only call it how I see it.
hrmm... how do mass generalizations compare to majority rule...
"COREY BLADE SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU RETARD, YOU SCAMMED SOMEONE YOU HAVE NO ROOM TO TALK!""nah bitch stfu you little yellow snot rocket ricer.
They were rota's mother fucker!"
conditioning is a form of slavery though
I don't force my opinion onto anyone. If you agree then you do, if you don't then you don't.hrmm... how do mass generalizations compare to majority rule...
If you can call adaptation "slavery".
i guess this really goes on about how everyone can believe in and do what they want. so i dont have to agree with your theory at all. i can stick with my majority rule if i want to, because that is my freedom. right?
"COREY BLADE SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU RETARD, YOU SCAMMED SOMEONE YOU HAVE NO ROOM TO TALK!""nah bitch stfu you little yellow snot rocket ricer.
They were rota's mother fucker!"
honestly, i have no idea what your talking about. what are you really trying to say, lets drop the one liners, take your time, think about it and write exactly what you feel
"COREY BLADE SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU RETARD, YOU SCAMMED SOMEONE YOU HAVE NO ROOM TO TALK!""nah bitch stfu you little yellow snot rocket ricer.
They were rota's mother fucker!"
wouldn't adaptation mean you are taking your chosen path on your given surroundings?
like a baby sea turtle... mother drops egg, you hatch on land, you must find ocean to live... that is adaptation in my mind. conditioning would mean mother sticks around and shows you how/what/why.
Exactly. Do what you want with who you want, just don't force me, or any others that disagree with you, to do the same.
so how do we achieve this? in reality, are we already no living this theory that you have? i mean you can do whatever you want and no one can force it on you, its up to you whether you follow the majority. but everyone else still has the freedom to follow it if they like and elected officials still have the right to push you around whether you feel the are right or wrong?
my brain is starting to hurt. ha
"COREY BLADE SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU RETARD, YOU SCAMMED SOMEONE YOU HAVE NO ROOM TO TALK!""nah bitch stfu you little yellow snot rocket ricer.
They were rota's mother fucker!"
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