Jamie, I respect you and how you presented your sentiments on the situation.
However, one person is not exemplary of the millions who voted for Obama.
Jamie, I respect you and how you presented your sentiments on the situation.
However, one person is not exemplary of the millions who voted for Obama.
No, but I'm sure several million voters had no idea what Obama was about. They just voted because he was Democrat/black/Not McCain or whatever reason. They probably had no idea what he was about.Originally Posted by BobbyFresh
I do not follow politics and by that I feel that I should not vote. So I don't plain and simple. Maybe that is foolish of me, but I just don't care enough about it.
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So are you suggesting that every person who voted for Mccain did so for all the right, non superficial reasons?
People are putting so much emphasis on the Black vote getting Obama elected that they seem to miss that Blacks alone didn't get the job done and that people voted for Mccain for any number of reasons that didn't involve his platform.
No not at all. I'm sure people that voted for McCain probably had just as dumb ass asinine reasons for doing it, when they had no clue what he was about. I was just making a statement in opposition to yours. You said one person and it's no doubt that it was probably several if not in the millions.
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If it were only one person, then I could care less. But in all honesty, I've found very few, and most are actually on here, Obama supporters that I've spoken to personally that handled the simple, "Why are you voting for Obama?" question with some sense of intelligence. I asked many, many people that same question when they expressed they were an Obama supporter. No lie, outside of IA, about 95% of those asked couldn't give a valid reason that didn't sound like a canned infomercial they'd heard on TV the day before.
This is what I'm basing my opinion on. Not just one person, but many. If that is any indication of the nation as a whole, then you can see why I'm saying what I'm saying. I mean, look at the Howard Stern video. I even saw a TV show where they asked young COLLEGE students just coming out of big "Vote or die" type rallies put on by the Democratic party to get students to register to vote where they asked simple questions like "How many states are in the U.S.?" or "How many Senators do we have?" or "Who is the Secretary of State?"......and the vast majority of students that had just finished this ra-ra rally and registered to vote for the first time COULD NOT ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS CORRECTLY. Now, look at the FACT that 60+% of voters in the 18-29 range voted for Obama last night.......Put two and two together.
I think what we really need to get this country ahead is to only let semi-educated voters vote. Make people take a test BEFORE their ballot is counted. We test teens BEFORE letting them drive, right? Yet, we let those same teens/young adults vote w/o being able to know that we have 50 states and 100 Senators?????
Yeah, BUSH is the only thing wrong with America.......
If it were only one person, then I could care less. But in all honesty, I've found very few, and most are actually on here, Obama supporters that I've spoken to personally that handled the simple, "Why are you voting for Obama?" question with some sense of intelligence. I asked many, many people that same question when they expressed they were an Obama supporter. No lie, outside of IA, about 95% of those asked couldn't give a valid reason that didn't sound like a canned infomercial they'd heard on TV the day before.
This is what I'm basing my opinion on. Not just one person, but many. If that is any indication of the nation as a whole, then you can see why I'm saying what I'm saying. I mean, look at the Howard Stern video. I even saw a TV show where they asked young COLLEGE students just coming out of big "Vote or die" type rallies put on by the Democratic party to get students to register to vote where they asked simple questions like "How many states are in the U.S.?" or "How many Senators do we have?" or "Who is the Secretary of State?"......and the vast majority of students that had just finished this ra-ra rally and registered to vote for the first time COULD NOT ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS CORRECTLY. Now, look at the FACT that 60+% of voters in the 18-29 range voted for Obama last night.......
I think what we really need to get this country ahead is to only let semi-educated voters vote. Make people take a test BEFORE their ballot is counted. We test teens BEFORE letting them drive, right? Yet, we let those same teens/young adults vote w/o being able to know that we have 50 states and 100 Senators?????
Yeah, BUSH is the only thing wrong with America.......
It extends to more than the election though.
Education should be of more significance than it presently is, in all aspects.
As a nation, I believe that we fall behind academically among countries of similar profile.
That's a CHANGE WE NEED.I think what we really need to get this country ahead is to only let semi-educated voters vote. Make people take a test BEFORE their ballot is counted. We test teens BEFORE letting them drive, right? Yet, we let those same teens/young adults vote w/o being able to know that we have 50 states and 100 Senators?????
Fall behind? We don't just fall behind. We don't even get off the bench.
Also, you don't need that many color codes. Type your post, highlight all of it and just add one code. lol
idiocracy.orgIf it were only one person, then I could care less. But in all honesty, I've found very few, and most are actually on here, Obama supporters that I've spoken to personally that handled the simple, "Why are you voting for Obama?" question with some sense of intelligence. I asked many, many people that same question when they expressed they were an Obama supporter. No lie, outside of IA, about 95% of those asked couldn't give a valid reason that didn't sound like a canned infomercial they'd heard on TV the day before.
This is what I'm basing my opinion on. Not just one person, but many. If that is any indication of the nation as a whole, then you can see why I'm saying what I'm saying. I mean, look at the Howard Stern video. I even saw a TV show where they asked young COLLEGE students just coming out of big "Vote or die" type rallies put on by the Democratic party to get students to register to vote where they asked simple questions like "How many states are in the U.S.?" or "How many Senators do we have?" or "Who is the Secretary of State?"......and the vast majority of students that had just finished this ra-ra rally and registered to vote for the first time COULD NOT ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS CORRECTLY. Now, look at the FACT that 60+% of voters in the 18-29 range voted for Obama last night.......
I think what we really need to get this country ahead is to only let semi-educated voters vote. Make people take a test BEFORE their ballot is counted. We test teens BEFORE letting them drive, right? Yet, we let those same teens/young adults vote w/o being able to know that we have 50 states and 100 Senators?????
Yeah, BUSH is the only thing wrong with America.......
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Didn't they try that a long time ago? And it was deemed racist?
because blacks back then didnt have the access to education they do now. its an entirely different era. get real
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I was mostly sarcastic in that post.
Obama wouldn't want to pass a law that requires the majority of the people who voted for him to have to pass a test.
True, but I believe that was also during a time when the education system was still segregated and the "colored folk" didn't have a real chance to properly inform themselves in the required areas. Things are a bit different now and I think it's time to give it another shot.
A lot of uneducated Whites wouldn't be able to vote as well.
and Asians.
and Hispanics. etc.
I've know ppl that have degrees that have no concept of politics or current events so yea. That notion makes zero sense.
It makes perfect sense. I didn't say just test black people. Give EVERYONE a test on general political knowledge and the policies being covered. This will root out general ignorance no matter what their ethnicity.
i could say the same about some McCain supporters that fed into all that scare tactic bullshit..calling him a terrorists best friend, and being muslim(Amazing how being muslim makes you a terrorists and a bad person in the eyes of a good majority of americans..I'm glad Yousef hasn't been alienated yet by some of you jackasses....If it were only one person, then I could care less. But in all honesty, I've found very few, and most are actually on here, Obama supporters that I've spoken to personally that handled the simple, "Why are you voting for Obama?" question with some sense of intelligence. I asked many, many people that same question when they expressed they were an Obama supporter. No lie, outside of IA, about 95% of those asked couldn't give a valid reason that didn't sound like a canned infomercial they'd heard on TV the day before.
This is what I'm basing my opinion on. Not just one person, but many. If that is any indication of the nation as a whole, then you can see why I'm saying what I'm saying. I mean, look at the Howard Stern video. I even saw a TV show where they asked young COLLEGE students just coming out of big "Vote or die" type rallies put on by the Democratic party to get students to register to vote where they asked simple questions like "How many states are in the U.S.?" or "How many Senators do we have?" or "Who is the Secretary of State?"......and the vast majority of students that had just finished this ra-ra rally and registered to vote for the first time COULD NOT ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS CORRECTLY. Now, look at the FACT that 60+% of voters in the 18-29 range voted for Obama last night.......
I think what we really need to get this country ahead is to only let semi-educated voters vote. Make people take a test BEFORE their ballot is counted. We test teens BEFORE letting them drive, right? Yet, we let those same teens/young adults vote w/o being able to know that we have 50 states and 100 Senators?????
Yeah, BUSH is the only thing wrong with America.......
In this day,it seems people would rather size up the candidate by his followers/fan club rather than the candidate himself..and that applies to both parties..
and Jamie, i'm kind of surprised at ya dude..You know education in this country was already a joke long before Obama/McCain started running..American kids/students are dumb as a whole...THey know more about whose winning on American Idol rather than actual issues going on in the world..Let alone our own friggin backyard
You shouldn't be surprised Walker. You know that I think you're as smart as wingless fly caught on fly paper and that's only BECAUSE you're black......pffft.....
JP.
I'm just playing. I know full well that basic education in this country totally sucks. Part of the reason is exactly this.....we let students get to COLLEGE w/o knowing how many states we have. How's that happen? My daughter who is 14 knows the answer to that. But my point is exactly that......we are letting those same people who have no basic knowledge of our Political system.....hell, basic knowledge of the country they live in.....VOTE. Why? There is no right that says we have to in a Presidential election. So, why do we keep perpetuating the same idiocy over and over again. We don't let people w/o a degree and passing a test operate on us, right? Why do we allow people that are too stupid decide who can take our money at the end of a gun then????
You still my boy blue.
here is what i'm not drinking the juice on... Obama got the majority vote for every age bracket except seniors... EVERY AGE BRACKET. sorry but the bright minds of america aren't 70+ years old; i would love to know the education level of people under 50 vs 50+. You may be very surprised to find that McCain won't have as many voters as you think if they all had to take a test.You shouldn't be surprised Walker. You know that I think you're as smart as wingless fly caught on fly paper and that's only BECAUSE you're black......pffft.....
I'm just playing. I know full well that basic education in this country totally sucks. Part of the reason is exactly this.....we let students get to COLLEGE w/o knowing how many states we have. How's that happen? My daughter who is 14 knows the answer to that. But my point is exactly that......we are letting those same people who have no basic knowledge of our Political system.....hell, basic knowledge of the country they live in.....VOTE. Why? There is no right that says we have to in a Presidential election. So, why do we keep perpetuating the same idiocy over and over again. We don't let people w/o a degree and passing a test operate on us, right? Why do we allow people that are too stupid decide who can take our money at the end of a gun then????
You still my boy blue.
That may very well be true, and yet I still stand by my statement. I didn't make the statement merely as some excuse why Mccain didn't get elected. I made the statement more so because I'd rather politicians be elected based on educated information and knowledge about what they proclaim to stand for instead of being elected because they bombarded the masses with fancy commercials and herd mentality. Know what I mean?
See, I don't have a single problem with anyone defending their belief and their vote IF they defend it using intelligence and common sense. If they just rattle off some infomercial they saw on TV as a justification for their vote, then they'd be better off buying widgets off the Shopping Network and leave the voting to people who take it seriously.
yeah i was just saying something to my boss today about this factor. yes this was the largest voter turn out and my generation of voters came out in herds. that doesn't mean that votes were cast by people who knew wtf they were doing. i think a VAST majority of my generation that voted, just voted because they are supposed to now. so whoever they saw the best commercial for or whoever was cool (as lame as that sounds, i BET that shit happened). and also, my g/f is a perfect example, a lot of my gen. voted for a party based on what their parents beliefs or voted for a party simply because they didn't want to be like their parents. my g/f voted republican. why? because her parents are republican. if you asked her why... i bet money she would stumble all over the place and maybe ramble a fact from a commercial or something she heard from her parents or a colleague. so i think a lot of votes were cast as just a shadow of their parents vote.
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