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    LOLOLOLOL you guys are acting like Dawkins put a gun to every religious person's head and made them read the book. And also being an Atheist doesn't mean you don't believe in a God. You guys are acting like this is some petty debate, but um I have a feeling it's important. If neither of you can grasp that concept, that's not my problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alpine_xj
    LOLOLOLOL you guys are acting like Dawkins put a gun to every religious person's head and made them read the book. And also being an Atheist doesn't mean you don't believe in a God. You guys are acting like this is some petty debate, but um I have a feeling it's important. If neither of you can grasp that concept, that's not my problem.
    Atheism literally mean "without god" so I don't know where you pulled that from... No one's debating here I simply posted what I felt on the subject and I'll leave it at that. Wasn't a personal attack on you, just my thoughts on the ego-tripping people who write these things. No shame in reading them (I've read plenty) I believe that hearing someone's viewpoint can be very important. But to be honest I'm just getting sick of closed-minded fools that think they are right on a subject that know one knows the answer to...

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    Quote Originally Posted by fcman
    PS: Oh Jesus, it's the Maniac lol Let the shit fest begin!!!!!!!!
    Hydro + religion discussion = win. We should try it. LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maniako
    Hydro + religion discussion = win. We should try it. LOL
    MMMM.... sounds tempting

    I've been sober for about 3 months though so I'd probably be a zombie, but I guess that might help me explain the whole jesus resurrection/zombie thing...
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    Quote Originally Posted by fcman
    MMMM.... sounds tempting

    I've been sober for about 3 months though so I'd probably be a zombie, but I guess that might help me explain the whole jesus resurrection/zombie thing...
    Hahaha, we should definitely set something up in the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fcman
    Atheism literally mean "without god" so I don't know where you pulled that from... No one's debating here I simply posted what I felt on the subject and I'll leave it at that. Wasn't a personal attack on you, just my thoughts on the ego-tripping people who write these things. No shame in reading them (I've read plenty) I believe that hearing someone's viewpoint can be very important. But to be honest I'm just getting sick of closed-minded fools that think they are right on a subject that know one knows the answer to...

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    You can be an Atheist and still acknowledge the possibility of God existing, like myself. Before reading into this (not just this book) I placed myself as an agnostic, but that just means believing that we will never know whether God exists or not and living on as such. I like Dawkins because he never actually says God doesn't exist, he's just 99% sure about it. I agree with you though, a lot of people are just ego-tripping assholes simply trying to insult people's beliefs. They do suck, but I think it's just retaliation to religious dickwads that say you're going to burn in hell if Jesus isn't your one and only savior. I know I've always remained realtively calm about my views, but I've had to go ape shit on some inbred Christians in my day and would gladly do it again if provoked.


    PS.......who said bud?

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    Quote Originally Posted by alpine_xj
    You can be an Atheist and still acknowledge the possibility of God existing, like myself.
    By definition, you're agnostic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maniako
    By definition, you're agnostic.
    Technically, no. The true definition of Agnosticism is that there is equal evidence existing that God exists, and that God doesn't exist. I personally cannot completely deny God's existance, but I'm about 80% sure there isn't an intelligent being watching me shower every morning, which excludes osnap of course. I really don't understand the concept of Atheists that can acknowledge the possibility of God, but according to Dawkins and other atheist writers Atheism does not necessarily exclude it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alpine_xj
    Technically, no. The true definition of Agnosticism is that there is equal evidence existing that God exists, and that God doesn't exist.
    I know this.

    But this is what you said.

    You can be an Atheist and still acknowledge the possibility of God existing, like myself.
    Disbelief in or denial of the existence of God or gods.

    The doctrine that there is no God or gods.

    So, what are you? If you were a real atheist you wouldn't have a God figure in the back of your mind. You would instead put that aside and completely ignore the fact that there might be a God out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maniako
    I know this.

    But this is what you said.


    Disbelief in or denial of the existence of God or gods.

    The doctrine that there is no God or gods.

    So, what are you? If you were a real atheist you wouldn't have a God figure in the back of your mind. You would instead put that aside and completely ignore the fact that there might be a God out there.
    I acknowledge the possibility of it, but I don't believe it to be true at all really. The notion of a God has no effect on my life whatsoever. I just don't rule it out completely because personally I think it's ignorant to do that. It doesn't mean I'm not atheist, because I'm definitely not agnostic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alpine_xj
    You can be an Atheist and still acknowledge the possibility of God existing, like myself. Before reading into this (not just this book) I placed myself as an agnostic, but that just means believing that we will never know whether God exists or not and living on as such. I like Dawkins because he never actually says God doesn't exist, he's just 99% sure about it. I agree with you though, a lot of people are just ego-tripping assholes simply trying to insult people's beliefs. They do suck, but I think it's just retaliation to religious dickwads that say you're going to burn in hell if Jesus isn't your one and only savior. I know I've always remained realtively calm about my views, but I've had to go ape shit on some inbred Christians in my day and would gladly do it again if provoked.


    PS.......who said bud?
    I feel you on that and I too dislike the forcefully religious, to me though the difference is that most religious people (even some of the forceful ones) seem to be genuinely interested in helping people (at least they think they are helping people) I just never get that vibe from the other side.
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