Obama just lost a lot of supporters... P Diddy is a fcking idiot.

[tony]

Wait a minute you're telling me that the fact that he went and listened to this guy every sunday for a lengthy period of time has nothing to do with Obama? LOL.

I'm sorry I didnt realize you were right there in the church as well recording Obama's attendance. Furthermore do you even know what Black Liberation Theology is? If not you need not be concerned with what Wright preaches about or what Obama heard.

[Evil Goat]

lol are you serious? The hypocrisy oozes through posts like this. Obama gets questioned for utter bull**** that has nothing to do with him (such as this post) but its woopty doo when a VP candidate doesn't hold a high morale standard in her own family.

this is easily the most idiotic post of the thread, to insinuate that just b/c a daughter becomes pregnant at 17 out of wedlock that the familys moral standards should be questioned? i mean seriously....my girlfriend, now my wife, became pregnant before we were married at 18....her father was a part time preacher and my parents are hardcore church of god....we both were taught high morals, and made our own decisions....you can lead a horse to water but you cant make it drink....

now for some facts.....

not that i agree with the practice of teaching abstinence only, but palin has always supported abstinence only sex ed in schools....and has been quoted as saying "the explicit sex-ed programs will not find my support"

so you can see how your statement is ridiculously lacking backing, facts, or even common sense.

I'm sorry I didnt realize you were right there in the church as well recording Obama's attendance. Furthermore do you even know what Black Liberation Theology is? If not you need not be concerned with what Wright preaches about or what Obama heard.

oh, i'm sorry, didnt realize you were at the Palins house when they were discussing their moral standards....

[tony]

this is easily the most idiotic post of the thread, to insinuate that just b/c a daughter becomes pregnant at 17 out of wedlock that the familys moral standards should be questioned? i mean seriously....my girlfriend, now my wife, became pregnant before we were married at 18....her father was a part time preacher and my parents are hardcore church of god....we both were taught high morals, and made our own decisions....you can lead a horse to water but you cant make it drink....

now for some facts.....

not that i agree with the practice of teaching abstinence only, but palin has always supported abstinence only sex ed in schools....and has been quoted as saying "the explicit sex-ed programs will not find my support"

so you can see how your statement is ridiculously lacking backing, facts, or even common sense.




oh, i'm sorry, didnt realize you were at the Palins house when they were discussing their moral standards....

ehh you're no exception to my explanation. Obama endures months of ridicule for **** he didn't say but suddenly theres a morale barrier when it comes to republicans? Please.. the minute our elected officials are held to a lower morale standard within their own household is the sure sign that **** is downhill from here on out.

I'm sorry but my VP or President should not have unwed girls 5 months pregnant in the whitehouse. This ain't the ****ing Charter North Hospital, its the presidency.. don't like it? Oh well, this woman sank the republican ticket. Enjoy Obama for the next 8 years.

[Evil Goat]

ehh you're no exception to my explanation. Obama endures months of ridicule for **** he didn't say but suddenly theres a morale barrier when it comes to republicans? Please.. the minute our elected officials are held to a lower morale standard within their own household is the sure sign that **** is downhill from here on out.

I'm sorry but my VP or President should not have unwed girls 5 months pregnant in the whitehouse. This ain't the ****ing Charter North Hospital, its the presidency.. don't like it? Oh well, this woman sank the republican ticket. Enjoy Obama for the next 8 years.

nah, it just shows they are a normal american family just like everyone else....you keep saying he is questioned over bs....do you think in 20 years of sitting there listening to this man that he has skipped out on the controversial preachings of rev. wright? i mean with a shadow of common sense actually think that a persons preacher, who he relies on to steer him in the right direction, doesnt have an affect on the way a person thinks and makes decisions?

noone is holding them to a lower moral standard, im simply stating the facts, palin backs abstience only sex education, just b/c her child made her own decisions doesnt mean she didnt teach her child morals....its ridiculous to insinuate that is so....sorry if you cant see that

if this were the case then why did obama jump ship when the **** got heavy? whether you like it or not religion is a part of politics and the way people vote, obamas knows that and thats exactly why he jumped, he saw people getting upset with the bull**** garbage coming out of that fools mouth and realized it was going to sink him....regardless personal ongoings of a family are just that, personal, especially when involving underage children. id be saying the same thing if it were mccains, obamas, or bidens child....palins daughter being pregnant hasnt swayed my vote one bit, its all about their decision making skills....now the thing with the AK state trooper has me worried, but then again a woman who resigned b/c of questionable ethics of people of her own party while on the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation committee is more than likely on the straight and narrow....

[stephen]

nah, it just shows they are a normal american family just like everyone else....you keep saying he is questioned over bs....do you think in 20 years of sitting there listening to this man that he has skipped out on the controversial preachings of rev. wright? i mean with a shadow of common sense actually think that a persons preacher, who he relies on to steer him in the right direction, doesnt have an affect on the way a person thinks and makes decisions?

wasn't it you who said "you can lead a horse to water but can't make him drink." how can that rule apply to Palin and her daughter, but not to Obama??? so what Obama spent 20 yrs listening to his pastor....Palin's daughter spent 17yrs listening to her mother, right? based on your thinking, if 17yrs wasn't enough to make her daughter abide by her ways...why should 20yrs be any different for Obama and his pastor?

noone is holding them to a lower moral standard, im simply stating the facts, palin backs abstience only sex education, just b/c her child made her own decisions doesnt mean she didnt teach her child morals....its ridiculous to insinuate that is so....sorry if you cant see that

i took a sociology course in college, and we had to research "sex education in schools." based on the information i found "abstinence only sex education" is what stimulates teenage pregnancy. do some research on The Netherlands (which has the lowest teenage pregnancy rate in the world) and their sex education courses. the bottom line...Palin's stance on sex education IS WRONG and her daughter proved it. we all know she's supposed to represent "women," and she's doing a terrible job at it. people are already b/tching about "government assistance." well hell...what effect is having a woman who populates like a rabbit, and who's child is headed down the same path going to have on the country, and young women who may end up looking up to her???

if this were the case then why did obama jump ship when the **** got heavy? whether you like it or not religion is a part of politics and the way people vote, obamas knows that and thats exactly why he jumped, he saw people getting upset with the bull**** garbage coming out of that fools mouth and realized it was going to sink him....regardless personal ongoings of a family are just that, personal, especially when involving underage children. id be saying the same thing if it were mccains, obamas, or bidens child....palins daughter being pregnant hasnt swayed my vote one bit, its all about their decision making skills....now the thing with the AK state trooper has me worried, but then again a woman who resigned b/c of questionable ethics of people of her own party while on the Alaska Oil and Gas Conservation committee is more than likely on the straight and narrow....

as i stated in another post...take a closer look at Palin's past political decisions. her biggest policies revolved around being able to kill bears and wolves, something she even spent the people's tax money on. the woman SUED the federal government for putting polar bears on the endangered species list. seriously, did she just not have anything better to do??? the woman was even losing approval rating in her own state...that says enough right there!

[Evil Goat]

this is for those of you saying black americans arent voting for obama b/c of his skin color....

http://www.13wmaz.com/apps/pbcs.dll/...D=200880724037

just to pre empt this i can talk **** all i want, as a caucasian male i am a minority in the city of macon, a resident of the city of macon from birth to 12yrs old, and recently moved back into macon at 20, where ive been the past 6 years....

this is just from our little city, i can imagine this isnt the only city where this is happening....

the facts....for those of you who dont live in central ga and know...

naacp set up a site to help register unregistered voters a few months ago, at the corner of Montpelier and Pio Nono in Macon, which for those of you who dont know is situated in a high crime, 99% black populated, area in macon. this intersection is not only in the ghetto, as youd call it, but it is lies right smack in between several housing authority communities and the macon mall....montpelier is used as a cut through for the majority of these people walking/riding to the mall, there is also a macon transit authority stop right on the corner where they were, filtering them in as they get off the bus, and they advertised for the open session registering on one station in macon....97.9 WIBB, a hiphop/r&b station....

they claim its to help get more people registered, and thats what they care about......i failed to see any of these voting places in north/east macon, where the residents are primarily white......but hey, its not about race, theres a vet on the card too, right?


now before people on here go calling me racist i am very proud of our country that we can have a african american to vote for, and if i were to share the same views and thoughts as obama theres no doubt in my mind id vote for him, hes one of the better orators ive seen in a long time, but his thoughts, lack of experience, and plans, such as socialized healthcare, scare me, that is why this white person will not be voting for him, not b/c hes 3% black, half black, or as black as the ace of spades......

[tony]

this is for those of you saying black americans arent voting for obama b/c of his skin color....

http://www.13wmaz.com/apps/pbcs.dll/...D=200880724037

just to pre empt this i can talk **** all i want, as a caucasian male i am a minority in the city of macon, a resident of the city of macon from birth to 12yrs old, and recently moved back into macon at 20, where ive been the past 6 years....

this is just from our little city, i can imagine this isnt the only city where this is happening....

the facts....for those of you who dont live in central ga and know...

naacp set up a site to help register unregistered voters a few months ago, at the corner of Montpelier and Pio Nono in Macon, which for those of you who dont know is situated in a high crime, 99% black populated, area in macon. this intersection is not only in the ghetto, as youd call it, but it is lies right smack in between several housing authority communities and the macon mall....montpelier is used as a cut through for the majority of these people walking/riding to the mall, there is also a macon transit authority stop right on the corner where they were, filtering them in as they get off the bus, and they advertised for the open session registering on one station in macon....97.9 WIBB, a hiphop/r&b station....

they claim its to help get more people registered, and thats what they care about......i failed to see any of these voting places in north/east macon, where the residents are primarily white......but hey, its not about race, theres a vet on the card too, right?


now before people on here go calling me racist i am very proud of our country that we can have a african american to vote for, and if i were to share the same views and thoughts as obama theres no doubt in my mind id vote for him, hes one of the better orators ive seen in a long time, but his thoughts, lack of experience, and plans, such as socialized healthcare, scare me, that is why this white person will not be voting for him, not b/c hes 3% black, half black, or as black as the ace of spades......

What democrat in recent history has put forth a Voter Registration Initiative in Georgia?

Better yet want to know the county in Georgia that had the biggest voter turnout for Obama in the democratic primary? Forsyth County, care to know the demographics?

The racial makeup of the county was 95.05% White, 0.70% Black or African American, 0.25% Native American, 0.80% Asian, 2.01% Pacific Islander, 2.27% from other races, and 0.93% from two or more races. 2.57% of the population were Hispanic or Latino of any race.

[Evil Goat]

What democrat in recent history has put forth a Voter Registration Initiative in Georgia?

Better yet want to know the county in Georgia that had the biggest voter turnout for Obama in the democratic primary? Forsyth County, care to know the demographics?

whered you find this info about forsyth county? b/c what i find contradicts you....

http://www.forsythnews.com/news/archive/413/

says nearly 90% of registered voters in forsyth county chose a republican ballot which doesnt leave a whole lot of folks to vote in the dem primary...maybe you meant fulton (even though dekalb had a bigger turnout), b/c there were 100k+ people who voted for obama in feb in fulton co......unlike the 4550 in forsyth county....

go ahead...take a look....

http://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/d...&elect=1&evt=P

[tony]

whered you find this info about forsyth county? b/c what i find contradicts you....

http://www.forsythnews.com/news/archive/413/

says nearly 90% of registered voters in forsyth county chose a republican ballot which doesnt leave a whole lot of folks to vote in the dem primary...maybe you meant fulton (even though dekalb had a bigger turnout), b/c there were 100k+ people who voted for obama in feb in fulton co......unlike the 4550 in forsyth county....

go ahead...take a look....

http://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/d...&elect=1&evt=P

You are correct, I remember Forsyth Country going big for Obama but it must not have been this state or I could just be flat wrong.