They are damn nice for the price. They are damn accurate for using a pistol round. The 15 rd promag magazines suck without some modification. They are ugly but they get the job done. Cheap way to go shooting. Hi-Point pistols are not as bad as everyone makes them out to be. Use only 8 round factory mags the 10 rounders tend to have problem as do aftermarket mags. FMJ feed with no problems. People have problems when using JHP ammo. If you polish the feed ramp you can usually fix this problem. They are heavy and bulky but for a plinker or in a pinch they do the job.