so went to test drive a GTI today...

[4dmin]

didn't buy one... yet. but i'm really considering it. not quite sure if i want 2dr or a 4dr (i miss my old golf) and can't decide against dsg/manual.... but VW is running 0% apr which is nice - what you think?

[quickdodge®]

You have nice new cars. Why not go back to an old school Rabbit? Later, QD.

[4dmin]

You have nice new cars. Why not go back to an old school Rabbit? Later, QD.

i really want warranty + zero maintenance... and my e46 is a POS

[redrumracer]

hell id go with a 2dr manual. but id prefer to have rwd also.

[Turbo Terrance]

I say go for 2dr or 4dr 5sp or manual ( which ever u wanna run into traffic with....)

[slostang]

sedan manual

[AnthonyF]

The only thing I have really found wrong with it (other than the design of how cramped everything is under the engine bay) is that it weighs quite a lot. I heard it's like 3700. Def a sexy car tho!

-Ant.

[4dmin]

The only thing I have really found wrong with it (other than the design of how cramped everything is under the engine bay) is that it weighs quite a lot. I heard it's like 3700. Def a sexy car tho!

-Ant.

ya they have always been heavy... i want to say my mk4 was right around 3000

[Bruce Leroy]

Id buy a 2 door 5 speed.

[Echonova]

4 door is only like 200lbs more than the 2 door. I would go 2dr but my wife wants 4. I've been waiting for the Rabbit to go TDI...

[chrisdavis]

4 door is only like 200lbs more than the 2 door. I would go 2dr but my wife wants 4. I've been waiting for the Rabbit to go TDI...

Im seriously considering the jetta wagon tdi. Im still about 12 mos away from making a purchase though

[Echonova]

Diesel is the future.

[slostang]

Diesel is the future.

QFT

[slostang]

my cousin has a jetta tdi sedan. i is pretty quick and it gets like 50-60 mpg.

[4dmin]

my cousin has a jetta tdi sedan. i is pretty quick and it gets like 50-60 mpg.

ya i thought about it ... 140hp 236lbs

[slostang]

ya i thought about it ... 140hp 236lbs

bc its a diesel you can easily squeeze alot more power out of it with a re-tune.

[4dmin]

bc its a diesel you can easily squeeze alot more power out of it with a re-tune.

ya i know some guys w/ the 1.9L tdi making around 175hp/300lbs thats sick

[Echonova]

The DSG transmission is bullet-proof, except for like all V-dubs, the wiring. However my neighbor is a VW tech @ Athens VW and he says the new Rabbits are lightyears more reliable than previous cars.

[Echonova]

I think 09-10 they are gonna do the Rabbit in TDI. I'll be first in line.

[slostang]

im waiting for the diesel accord to be released, then i may swap the diesel accord engine into my eg8

[99hatch]

My MK4 weights 2790 (03 GTI). It does have a carbon fiber hood though, although im sure it doesn't make that much difference. That is tested at my work that has a weigh station.

[Dr.Pepper]

^lmfao

[Buttons]

^lmfao

please enlighten me, you underage member, what was so funny.

[Echonova]

please enlighten me, you underage member, what was so funny.

Damn girl, you're fiesty tonight.

[Buttons]

Damn girl, you're fiesty tonight.

i'm tired. long, exhausting weekend. in a very good way

[slostang]

i'm tired. long, exhausting weekend. in a very good way

LNN?

LOL

[Echonova]

i'm tired. long, exhausting weekend. in a very good way

[slostang]

^lmfao

you dont wanna start with me pal. trust me ive seen your elementary ass "owns"

[slostang]

im pissed bc i cant neg dr.pepper

[Echonova]

LOL, I just negged him with this

[slostang]

LOL, I just negged him with this

lol thanks, it says i have spread too much rep in the past 24 hrs.

[OnURleft]

I'd buy a DSG TDI Jetta, because DSG is nothing but amusing fun and practical for a daily driver 50mpg car. Re-tune, veg oil, full exhaust for a blast of a daily driver with no gas bill.

[slostang]

I'd buy a DSG TDI Jetta, because DSG is nothing but amusing fun and practical for a daily driver 50mpg car. Re-tune, veg oil, full exhaust for a blast of a daily driver with no gas bill.

QFMFT

[Buttons]

back to the point of the thread, i would also wait for the diesel engines come out. i have many friends who are extremely happy with theirs.

[Echonova]

~taken from another forum~

I like many of you have been looking for a good economical car that won't break the bank. The VW Jetta TDI has been appealing to me because of its high MPG, 45/55 according to the newest models and yet below the hybrid prices. Well, today I went to the Portland Auto Show and saw the 2008 Golf TDI. Estimated MPG is mid 60's!! Thats about 15mpg better than Prius! The price......$14,995. Where do sign up!! Heres the big downer.......its only available in Europe. One thing I found out at the Auto show is that the economical cars are out there but the US won't allow them in because of emmisions, safety, and whatever other lame excuse they can think of. The Golf TDI headed for Europe is the same as the one currently in the US but with an 80hp TDI "Clean Diesel" engine, which actually emmits less carbon than the Prius.

[_Christian_]

I've been thinking about a veggie tdi for a little while now. I'd be willing to sacrifice some performance for practicality. Even running diesel in it is a lot better than the **** i have to deal with now.

[ShooterMcGavin]

D - S - G
(damn, so gangster)

[AnthonyF]

most consumers look at cars in a sex appeal/ power appeal. Since I work on cars I look at how easy it is to repair something if it breaks. VW/Audi/Benz are not easy cars to work on and they do have a lot of stupid designs. They just have a lot of unnecessary parts under the hood.

-Ant.

[ShooterMcGavin]

most consumers look at cars in a sex appeal/ power appeal. Since I work on cars I look at how easy it is to repair something if it breaks. VW/Audi/Benz are not easy cars to work on and they do have a lot of stupid designs. They just have a lot of unnecessary parts under the hood.

-Ant.

what professional qualifications do you have that allows you to pass off such statements as facts?

[AnthonyF]

what professional qualifications do you have that allows you to pass off such statements as facts?

..WHAT?!

It is my personal opinion. We just yanked a 1.8T out of a '00 Golf. They had more useless sh*t on that engine than I have ever seen. They would have multiple hoses/lines from one part to another. Why did they have SO many? Why not just one?

What it seems is, they create these engines on a new desgin. The test it and find MULTIPLE things wrong with it. So they have to add all this other garbage to make it run right.

Manufacturers need to do what honda does, get input from their top techs.

"What should we do here?"
"How can we clean this up?"
"We want this, to fit that while being able to be easily worked on, suggestions?"

etc...

Have you ever worked on cars? Like, multiple cars, not just your own. Honda has some of the best setups ever. See, the engineers dont think when creating or putting parts on a car. We get cars in where a simple O2 is in the tightest possible location and they had an infinite amount of space everywhere else.

CLIFFS-what I am trying to say is, they over engineer a lot of items, not just VW, Ford does it, Jag, Audi, etc...

-Ant.