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    Quote Originally Posted by BlueHatch
    to each his own i suppose but when i hear the term "white power" i hear it as a racist remark and im white but that may just be me. but everyone has tough times not just black people. ive lived in everything from a chevy beretta to a 3 bedroom house with 10 folks in it, and no matter how tough it got we never used our race to "get through the hard times" that last line may have came out wrong but im trying to get my point out
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    It is used so much up North. For instance "What up my n*gga". I personally think that it is more of a problem down South.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucky Dawg
    And for the founding of the NCAAP being founded by a multicultural background, it is far from its beginnings if thats what it was supposed to be built upon
    As most things hardly do, did the black panthers set out to become drug addicts? Power corrupts and without the right leadership the path that you started on can easily get rail roded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tony
    As most things hardly do, did the black panthers set out to become drug addicts? Power corrupts and without the right leadership the path that you started on can easily get rail roded.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tony
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    I've anxiously awaited a reply from those who were quick to point the finger in this thread.. or even those that didnt have an opinion so either what I wrote was too long to gain interest or it cannot be argued.

    At least give me the gratification of knowing that maybe you have a slight better understanding of why some black kids are the way they are today.. I spent a good half hour typing that hoping some of you would better understand. The whole N word thing isn't right but there is a deep reasoning for why things are the way they are.

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    I don't understand Tony. Re-type it please. LOL
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    idk i say it all the time

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    Quote Originally Posted by T34me
    i dident read all 6 pages but just wanted to throw in my 2 cents. Im white as shiit and have plenty of black friends, they call me *****, i call them *****, but it is wierd being around some one you dont know well and droppin that, they kind of just look at you if their white, and look at you like they want to hit you if they're black. I honestly dont even think about it, i just say it like im talkin to one of my boys.
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    hows that, if you hang out with with people that dont mind you saying it on a daily basis, then whats the problem. I made it very clear in my post that i hadent read all 6 pages, so yeah, i dident see what you said, but that dosent change the fact this thread is about if individuals are uncomfortable using it, and i was just saying im not, just like everyone else had the right to with out getting crap for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T34me
    hows that, if you hang out with with people that dont mind you saying it on a daily basis, then whats the problem. I made it very clear in my post that i hadent read all 6 pages, so yeah, i dident see what you said, but that dosent change the fact this thread is about if individuals are uncomfortable using it, and i was just saying im not, just like everyone else had the right to with out getting crap for it.
    This is why:

    Quote Originally Posted by T34me
    i dident read all 6 pages but just wanted to throw in my 2 cents. Im white as shiit and have plenty of black friends, they call me *****, i call them *****, but it is wierd being around some one you dont know well and droppin that, they kind of just look at you if their white, and look at you like they want to hit you if they're black. I honestly dont even think about it, i just say it like im talkin to one of my boys.
    This proves that you're an idiot. Not only do you think it's kool to say - but you're so careless w/ it that you don't even know (or can't help it NOT to) when not to say it. Keep that up and one day it's gonna be the reason why you see a cosmetic dentist. You're on borrowed time kiddo.
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    I say it jokingly to my white and black friends. I use it carefully though, as to prevent offending people that hear it but don't know me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T34me
    hows that, if you hang out with with people that dont mind you saying it on a daily basis, then whats the problem.
    The "problem" is is that you don't use it because you're a proud of who you are. Are you a proud black male? Did you grow up in the hood where this term is majority used? You use it for the "cool factor." Tell me I'm wrong. You use it to fit in with the homeboys.

    I'm from LA. Hood central. I've lived in hoods there and hoods and ghettos all over Atlanta. I've got black family. I guarantee you that I "fit in" damn near 100% better than you. Still doesn't make me black, though. I would still look like an idiot using that terminology. I would venture to say that you have no real concept of the black culture. Their life. Like I said, you use it to "look" cool.

    Fortunately, I don't need to use that word to be cool and liked. Later, QD.
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    i never said i used it to be cool, and i stated i was white in my post. im sitting here being up front about not reading the whole post, being white, and using it among friends, so WTF? Im sure everyone here does shiit with their friends that maybe some other people think is offensive or gay, but i dont see them getting bashed over it. How is it that out of all the people that said they use it, i get targeted? Ive kept a good reputation on here and not tried to step on toes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by T34me
    i dident read all 6 pages but just wanted to throw in my 2 cents. Im white as shiit and have plenty of black friends, they call me *****, i call them *****, but it is wierd being around some one you dont know well and droppin that, they kind of just look at you if their white, and look at you like they want to hit you if they're black. I honestly dont even think about it, i just say it like im talkin to one of my boys.
    ^^ How would you know that unless you do it?

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    i never said i used it to be cool, and i stated i was white in my post. im sitting here being up front about not reading the whole post, being white, and using it among friends, so WTF? Im sure everyone here does shiit with their friends that maybe some other people think is offensive or gay, but i dont see them getting bashed over it. How is it that out of all the people that said they use it, i get targeted? Ive kept a good reputation on here and not tried to step on toes.
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    heres why, yeah, it would be stupid to say it among complete strangers with no one you know around, but if your chillin at the pool and you call to your boy for a beer, you might get a few looks. If there is nothing else and i have answered all your questions am i free to leave now? Guess thats what i get for having an opinion, ill work more on conforming to your standards since you seem to set with bar with your infinite and unchallanged wisdom

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    Quote Originally Posted by T34me
    heres why, yeah, it would be stupid to say it among complete strangers with no one you know around, but if your chillin at the pool and you call to your boy for a beer, you might get a few looks. If there is nothing else and i have answered all your questions am i free to leave now? Guess thats what i get for having an opinion, ill work more on conforming to your standards since you seem to set with bar with your infinite and unchallanged wisdom



    I will agree to an extent with you.



    I have called my friends that one on one or in a private group of like 4 people i know that wouldn't take offense when we have been drinking.


    Is it right? no
    Is it politically correct? no
    Is it offensive? yes



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    Quote Originally Posted by T34me
    heres why, yeah, it would be stupid to say it among complete strangers with no one you know around, but if your chillin at the pool and you call to your boy for a beer, you might get a few looks. If there is nothing else and i have answered all your questions am i free to leave now? Guess thats what i get for having an opinion, ill work more on conforming to your standards since you seem to set with bar with your infinite and unchallanged wisdom
    I am surprised you are still alive. One of those people are gonna give you more then a "look" one day. They are gonna come over and kick you so hard in the sack your gonna be choking on you D**k from the inside. Seen it happen. Wasn't pretty. Taught that kid a lesson though. I'm just saying you should maybe be a little more sensitive to the word.



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    I've read over this thread,and have agreed with most post.but if it wasn't n1gga,it would be some other word. If someones racist they'll find away to get to you.i don't like the fact i can be called a cracka and it be okay. i don't get offended by racist words i just get annoyed by racist words.


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    Quote Originally Posted by T34me
    i never said i used it to be cool,
    Then be honest and tell why you use it? There is no legit reason. You think it makes you one of the homeboys to say that.

    Quote Originally Posted by T34me
    Im sure everyone here does shiit with their friends that maybe some other people think is offensive or gay,
    I'm sure you're right. But if any of them are using racial slurs to be "in," then they look just as stupid.

    Quote Originally Posted by T34me
    but i dont see them getting bashed over it.
    You're the only one speaking on it. Besides, I just center on you. I stated that any white "G" that does that looks retarded and uneducated.

    Quote Originally Posted by T34me
    Ive kept a good reputation on here and not tried to step on toes.
    Who said anything about your reputation? You haven't stepped on any toes (with me anyway). Just cause I think you're an idiot for your use of the word doesn't mean I don't like you. I',m just telling you what's up. And if you did "conform" to our standards, you'd probably be better respected by a lot more people than you think. Later, QD.
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    I say yes. I hear black people at work call each other that everyday. So if they can use it, why can't I?

    It's no more derogatory than the term cracker, or redneck. If it makes you mad then boo f-ing hoo. Oh he called me the "n" word If that is all you have to worry about (what other people call you) then your life is pretty good.

    To the whites, blacks, purples, and other colors. If you act a certain way don't be upset when people call you a name that describes it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by civic95
    I say yes. I hear black people at work call each other that everyday. So if they can use it, why can't I?

    It's no more derogatory than the term cracker, or redneck. If it makes you mad then boo f-ing hoo. Oh he called me the "n" word If that is all you have to worry about (what other people call you) then your life is pretty good.

    To the whites, blacks, purples, and other colors. If you act a certain way don't be upset when people call you a name that describes it.

    lol and these are the type of people that i will have to grow old with in this country and share the world with... My generation is such a disappointment..

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    Quote Originally Posted by JITB
    lol and these are the type of people that i will have to grow old with in this country and share the world with... My generation is such a disappointment..
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    Quote Originally Posted by JITB
    lol and these are the type of people that i will have to grow old with in this country and share the world with... My generation is such a disappointment..
    Do you cry everytime someone calls you a mother-fAcker too? That's more derogatory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by civic95
    Do you cry everytime someone calls you a mother-fAcker too? That's more derogatory.
    if thats how u feel thats how u feel. Your 29 years old, so your set in yoru ways. My only gripe is the need for peopel to tell other people what to be upset by. IM sure there is something that will get you upset, just like there is with me and everyone else. it may be stupid and not offend me, or anyone else. but it may set u off...

    I see people steal and kill on the news all the time does it mean i can do it too? What do u all just do what other people do because they do it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JITB
    if thats how u feel thats how u feel. Your 29 years old, so your set in yoru ways. My only gripe is the need for peopel to tell other people what to be upset by. IM sure there is something that will get you upset, just like there is with me and everyone else. it may be stupid and not offend me, or anyone else. but it may set u off...
    Nothing anyone says offends me. Not even all the black comedians telling white jokes. I have more important things to worry about.

    Quote Originally Posted by JITB
    I see people steal and kill on the news all the time does it mean i can do it too? What do u all just do what other people do because they do it?
    You kind of have a point here.

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    the use of this word is what, in my mind, helps keeps racism going. the "double standard" or "reverse racism" is found because yes it was a term used in slavery, but slavery is over. the African American community as a whole seems to want not to be equal but to be "better" than the whites as if that is what they deserve.

    for example
    reparations- pay a RACE for injustices committed over 100 yrs ago. in that case, can white europeans get reparations for the injustices committed by the british? and is the a.a. community also asking the african nations who inabled and fueled the slave trade for reparations as well? no they are asking "White America" as it was called.
    NAACP- regardless of its intent at founding this is a racist organization now. to promote the advancement of one race is to ignore the advancement of another. sounds like discrimination to me.

    the use of this word and other cases of "taking something away from whitey" or making something unique for a culture, or focusing on one group instead of all is why there is still a great divide in this country. was slavery wrong? absolutely. but to blame it on everything is a cop-out and such. being white did not provide me with food and shelter. i did.and thats how it should be. we should stop worrying about the well being of one or another group and focus on the whole. and by saying this is an exclusive word (N1gger), or this is our music(rap),then its just the whole cycle of trying to make one race superior to the another. just like in the past with "this is my bathroom, you have that one." in fact, most things wanted by the a.a. community, was simply putting themselves back under a race, i.e. affirmative action which was basically i cry of "we cannot compete with others, they are better, please provide us with something". whatever happened to "best for the job?"i think when everyone stops looking for some angle to get something without work,racism will disappear from mainstream society.

    i fail to see how any intelligent person cannot see the gaping hypocrisies in the whole slew of race-based requirements for anything. as for the question, it is bull**** that one group can use ANY word and others cannot. THAT IS YET AGAIN SEGREGATION.


    ps- no i am not racist, but im tired of the whole"injustices made us this way" arguement. black's were not the only group ever mistreated or segregated, yet seem to be the only ones not willing to become stronger by itt
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    Quote Originally Posted by fight club
    the use of this word is what, in my mind, helps keeps racism going. the "double standard" or "reverse racism" is found because yes it was a term used in slavery, but slavery is over. the African American community as a whole seems to want not to be equal but to be "better" than the whites as if that is what they deserve.

    for example
    reparations- pay a RACE for injustices committed over 100 yrs ago. in that case, can white europeans get reparations for the injustices committed by the british? and is the a.a. community also asking the african nations who inabled and fueled the slave trade for reparations as well? no they are asking "White America" as it was called.
    NAACP- regardless of its intent at founding this is a racist organization now. to promote the advancement of one race is to ignore the advancement of another. sounds like discrimination to me.

    the use of this word and other cases of "taking something away from whitey" or making something unique for a culture, or focusing on one group instead of all is why there is still a great divide in this country. was slavery wrong? absolutely. but to blame it on everything is a cop-out and such. being white did not provide me with food and shelter. i did.and thats how it should be. we should stop worrying about the well being of one or another group and focus on the whole. and by saying this is an exclusive word (N1gger), or this is our music(rap),then its just the whole cycle of trying to make one race superior to the another. just like in the past with "this is my bathroom, you have that one." in fact, most things wanted by the a.a. community, was simply putting themselves back under a race, i.e. affirmative action which was basically i cry of "we cannot compete with others, they are better, please provide us with something". whatever happened to "best for the job?"i think when everyone stops looking for some angle to get something without work,racism will disappear from mainstream society.

    i fail to see how any intelligent person cannot see the gaping hypocrisies in the whole slew of race-based requirements for anything. as for the question, it is bull**** that one group can use ANY word and others cannot. THAT IS YET AGAIN SEGREGATION.


    ps- no i am not racist, but im tired of the whole"injustices made us this way" arguement. black's were not the only group ever mistreated or segregated, yet seem to be the only ones not willing to become stronger by itt
    well said!

    Something I just thought about. Not to defend slavery, because it was horrible and wrong. If the early african americans were not brought here, the majority of african americans would still be in Africa. Again I'm not saying their ancestors suffering was worth it, but most AA's would not be here if it wasn't for it. Instead of complaining about America think of the alternative. We are all lucky to have been born here. If you don't believe that then you need to travel to some other countries. Hell if they have it so bad here I'll buy anyone of them a one way ticket to Africa. For the last time I'm not condoning, supporting, or defending anything that happened 100 yrs ago, nor should I have to (or anyone else that's alive today).

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    Quote Originally Posted by fight club
    the use of this word is what, in my mind, helps keeps racism going. the "double standard" or "reverse racism" is found because yes it was a term used in slavery, but slavery is over. the African American community as a whole seems to want not to be equal but to be "better" than the whites as if that is what they deserve.

    for example
    reparations- pay a RACE for injustices committed over 100 yrs ago. in that case, can white europeans get reparations for the injustices committed by the british? and is the a.a. community also asking the african nations who inabled and fueled the slave trade for reparations as well? no they are asking "White America" as it was called.
    NAACP- regardless of its intent at founding this is a racist organization now. to promote the advancement of one race is to ignore the advancement of another. sounds like discrimination to me.

    the use of this word and other cases of "taking something away from whitey" or making something unique for a culture, or focusing on one group instead of all is why there is still a great divide in this country. was slavery wrong? absolutely. but to blame it on everything is a cop-out and such. being white did not provide me with food and shelter. i did.and thats how it should be. we should stop worrying about the well being of one or another group and focus on the whole. and by saying this is an exclusive word (N1gger), or this is our music(rap),then its just the whole cycle of trying to make one race superior to the another. just like in the past with "this is my bathroom, you have that one." in fact, most things wanted by the a.a. community, was simply putting themselves back under a race, i.e. affirmative action which was basically i cry of "we cannot compete with others, they are better, please provide us with something". whatever happened to "best for the job?"i think when everyone stops looking for some angle to get something without work,racism will disappear from mainstream society.

    i fail to see how any intelligent person cannot see the gaping hypocrisies in the whole slew of race-based requirements for anything. as for the question, it is bull**** that one group can use ANY word and others cannot. THAT IS YET AGAIN SEGREGATION.


    ps- no i am not racist, but im tired of the whole"injustices made us this way" arguement. black's were not the only group ever mistreated or segregated, yet seem to be the only ones not willing to become stronger by itt



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    Quote Originally Posted by fight club
    the use of this word is what, in my mind, helps keeps racism going. the "double standard" or "reverse racism" is found because yes it was a term used in slavery, but slavery is over. the African American community as a whole seems to want not to be equal but to be "better" than the whites as if that is what they deserve.

    for example
    reparations- pay a RACE for injustices committed over 100 yrs ago. in that case, can white europeans get reparations for the injustices committed by the british? and is the a.a. community also asking the african nations who inabled and fueled the slave trade for reparations as well? no they are asking "White America" as it was called.
    NAACP- regardless of its intent at founding this is a racist organization now. to promote the advancement of one race is to ignore the advancement of another. sounds like discrimination to me.

    the use of this word and other cases of "taking something away from whitey" or making something unique for a culture, or focusing on one group instead of all is why there is still a great divide in this country. was slavery wrong? absolutely. but to blame it on everything is a cop-out and such. being white did not provide me with food and shelter. i did.and thats how it should be. we should stop worrying about the well being of one or another group and focus on the whole. and by saying this is an exclusive word (N1gger), or this is our music(rap),then its just the whole cycle of trying to make one race superior to the another. just like in the past with "this is my bathroom, you have that one." in fact, most things wanted by the a.a. community, was simply putting themselves back under a race, i.e. affirmative action which was basically i cry of "we cannot compete with others, they are better, please provide us with something". whatever happened to "best for the job?"i think when everyone stops looking for some angle to get something without work,racism will disappear from mainstream society.

    i fail to see how any intelligent person cannot see the gaping hypocrisies in the whole slew of race-based requirements for anything. as for the question, it is bull**** that one group can use ANY word and others cannot. THAT IS YET AGAIN SEGREGATION.


    ps- no i am not racist, but im tired of the whole"injustices made us this way" arguement. black's were not the only group ever mistreated or segregated, yet seem to be the only ones not willing to become stronger by itt

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    What you're saying makes no sense. The use of the "N" word is what keeps racism alive, but it's not because black people feel like they own it, it's because people use it in general (whether black or white). It's also ideals like yours that fault the black race as a whole, for once postive attempts to assist the race, that have turned into something that is no longer accepted by society.

    How can you say that because the black population feels that they own A WORD, that it's "reverse racism?" You obviously have no comprehension on what the term racism actually means. The term doesn't make the black race feel "superior" to another, it's just not tolerated. The way I feel is if another black man calls me a "ni66a" he just as much of a "ni66a" as me, whether he's using it as a term of endearment or in a negative manner, so how can I truly get mad at him for it. It's like two fat kids calling each other fat, how upset can they be? Now imagine it was a skinny kid saying it...I'm sure the fat kid would be more offended.

    Reparations - Black people asked for reparations at the end of slavery, and it was promised and never given. Imagine, your whole family has been torn apart, drug to a foreign land, stripped of your name, forced to either be strong and breed, or weak and die. Now these people that have done this to you say "Ok, we're sorry, you're free to go." Would you be wrong for saying, "Ok, well ummm...I don't really have any money, family, or a place to go because of you. So can I get something to help me with the rest of my life?" I don't feel like black people need reparations anymore, but there was justification for it in the past.

    NAACP - A group of people got together to help slow/and remove DISCRIMINATION that this entire country was built on. Yes, the group does have a few messed up ideas/views, but its general purpose is make sure history won't repeat itself. As long as there are still people out there who mistreat "colored people" then the NAACP will exist, and will need to exist. As stated before, any organization faces the risk of being mis-used, but that shouldn't take away from its original intent. You also need to read the definition of the word "advancement" and maybe you'll have a better understanding.

    Look how easy it is for THE WORLD to hate a group because of color, religion, and other personal preferences. You can't fault the victims of these groups to make sure things like that won't happen again. That's why we end up with Affirmative Action, and Equal Opportunity Employment, separation of church and state, etc., becase at some point in time, there were victims. It's not always just a flat out "black thing."

    Some people will never understand the term "You don't know what it's like to be _____ (fill in the blank)." I learned about, and have personally been a victim of racism. I'm not just talking about "I can't say a word you can say." No, I could've lost sooo much because of the color of my skin. I could've had a criminal record, lost my scholorship, would've had an even harder time trying to get a career, and could've spent a few years in prison. Why??? Because a white woman felt like all black people look alike. She was mugged/assaulted by a young black kid. I had just finished football practice (I was in high school), and was walking home. A cop stops me, and tells me the lady was mugged, and I fit the description. He shows me to the woman, and she says, "Yeah, that looks like him....They all look alike to me." If it wasn't for the time the crime ACTUALLY happened, the bus driver that dropped me off, and my football coach, they were going to take me to jail. Think about it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by fight club


    ps- no i am not racist, but im tired of the whole"injustices made us this way" arguement. black's were not the only group ever mistreated or segregated, yet seem to be the only ones not willing to become stronger by itt

    A shining example of what it is to not be able to empathize. Just how far blacks have come the race HAS become stronger.. to say that we haven't is a spit in the face to those that have more respect for our selves than to not use the term in question.

    Then again most of you (if not all) don't know what it means to try to trace your family lineage and can barely date back 100 years because slaves were not allowed to be documented. These kids only know of their heritage what is taught in schools, I'm sure they would have a lot more respect for their ancestors if they could actually internalize what their past was.. but all you see is the result and invalid excuses for the way we are.

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    No! its terrible! the N word is one of if not most of the racist words ever! next to the J word (jew) and SN word (SAND ******) ahhhh its terrible!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tony
    Then again most of you (if not all) don't know what it means to try to trace your family lineage and can barely date back 100 years because slaves were not allowed to be documented. These kids only know of their heritage what is taught in schools, I'm sure they would have a lot more respect for their ancestors if they could actually internalize what their past was.. but all you see is the result and invalid excuses for the way we are.
    That is a prime reason for why we have things like "Black History Month." If EVERYONE took more time into UNDERSTANDING black history (as it applies to black history in america), then maybe ALL black/white taboos can be removed from society. Maybe black people will show more respect for their ancestor & and white people will too. It's funny, my Godfather (I'm black and so is he) despises that word...He NEVER uses it, or wants to hear it. Whenever he comes to town (once a year for about a week), we don't use the word. We joke about it to each other like "I'm going to tell Uncle B you said ni66a!" but we still try to abide by his wishes and not use it around him. He's taken the time to study a lot of aspects of black history (creating his family tree, celebrating holidays like Kwanzaa), and has more respect for his ancestors than to use such an offensive term. Recently, I found out about a lot of family on my father's mother's side, and that got me into a mad dash to find out about my family. I also found out that I have 2 uncles that I never met, nor has my father (my grandfather's 2 sons from his second marriage). I started trying to trace my family tree (to learn about the origins of my last name). I finally got to two dead-ends, my great-grandmother's parents (I actually got a chance to talk to her before she passed...pretty cool)...one of them was black, and the other was full native american (choctaw). I have yet to be able to find any LEGAL information in regards to my great-great-great-grandparents due to the treatment of black people and native americans in the past. Imagine how many people are out there, that're just like me... Until they search, and try to find out more about their family, and TRULY understand the challenges that they've had to overcome, they'll continue to allow others to destroy them, and destroy themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tony
    A shining example of what it is to not be able to empathize. Just how far blacks have come the race HAS become stronger.. to say that we haven't is a spit in the face to those that have more respect for our selves than to not use the term in question.

    Then again most of you (if not all) don't know what it means to try to trace your family lineage and can barely date back 100 years because slaves were not allowed to be documented. These kids only know of their heritage what is taught in schools, I'm sure they would have a lot more respect for their ancestors if they could actually internalize what their past was.. but all you see is the result and invalid excuses for the way we are.
    first id like to sayi apreciate you responding without trying to insult my intellegence like the post above you. i can actually empathize with those who have no sense of being as their lineage is so ****ed up. knowing where you are from is a big building block towards who you become. but those kids arent the only people who have that problem. i have agree they would have more respect for their ancestors, but my whole thing is if you cant trace it back, then look to your parents and grandparents and see the huge obstacles they have over come. the use of the word and the use of "well my family comes from slaves" not only insults their slave ancestors, but their immediate family who fought for civil rights. in my mind, the word is an insult to the entire race of whoever uses it.
    for example,if you were walking downtown and some white dude goes "n1gger" you view him as white trash; an ignorant sonofabitch.now what happens if 80% of white people say it. and then the white celebs start saying it.you start to group the race together and think all whites are ignorant bigots. its the same thing with the african americans. you hear it in all walks of the culture in America and thus the outrage i have for the word. yes it makes the person look stupid and disrespectful to their heritage. it would be like a jew calling people kikes. but when its inthe predominant black media and such, its just disrespectful for all.
    basically in my previous post, which was a bit rambling and such, i was trying to say, (to steal a line from boondocks) is all these "n1gga moments" with rap songs and ****, is detramental to the race and is PARTLY to blame for racism in the world. and instead of realizing that its this mob mentality to seem ignorant by so many that the few that are trying hernestly to ADVANCE the race to equality is overshadowed.
    in summary, the claiming of word is rediculous and makes everyone look ignorant,and i mean everyone because noone,of any race, is trying to stop this media influence. i feel the african community needs to remove these people from the spotlight and put in leaders and role models that want to excell the race in this world to a point that that heritage, though beaten and broken, is honored not tarnished; and that future generations can say "my ancestors, whoever they were, did not suffer in vain because look at us now" instead of "n1gga this and n1gga that"; mocking those who have past.
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    Quote Originally Posted by untitled_001
    No! its terrible! the N word is one of if not most of the racist words ever! next to the J word (jew) and SN word (SAND ******) ahhhh its terrible!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fight club
    first id like to sayi apreciate you responding without trying to insult my intellegence like the post above you. i can actually empathize with those who have no sense of being as their lineage is so ****ed up. knowing where you are from is a big building block towards who you become. but those kids arent the only people who have that problem. i have agree they would have more respect for their ancestors, but my whole thing is if you cant trace it back, then look to your parents and grandparents and see the huge obstacles they have over come. the use of the word and the use of "well my family comes from slaves" not only insults their slave ancestors, but their immediate family who fought for civil rights. in my mind, the word is an insult to the entire race of whoever uses it.
    for example,if you were walking downtown and some white dude goes "n1gger" you view him as white trash; an ignorant sonofabitch.now what happens if 80% of white people say it. and then the white celebs start saying it.you start to group the race together and think all whites are ignorant bigots. its the same thing with the african americans. you hear it in all walks of the culture in America and thus the outrage i have for the word. yes it makes the person look stupid and disrespectful to their heritage. it would be like a jew calling people kikes. but when its inthe predominant black media and such, its just disrespectful for all.
    basically in my previous post, which was a bit rambling and such, i was trying to say, (to steal a line from boondocks) is all these "n1gga moments" with rap songs and ****, is detramental to the race and is PARTLY to blame for racism in the world. and instead of realizing that its this mob mentality to seem ignorant by so many that the few that are trying hernestly to ADVANCE the race to equality is overshadowed.
    in summary, the claiming of word is rediculous and makes everyone look ignorant,and i mean everyone because noone,of any race, is trying to stop this media influence. i feel the african community needs to remove these people from the spotlight and put in leaders and role models that want to excell the race in this world to a point that that heritage, though beaten and broken, is honored not tarnished; and that future generations can say "my ancestors, whoever they were, did not suffer in vain because look at us now" instead of "n1gga this and n1gga that"; mocking those who have past.
    I never tried to to insult your intelligence. If anything, I asked that you think more about what it is you were saying. You admit that you were "rambling" and I tried to make you more aware of that. I clearly understand and respect this post a lot more than the last one...the second sentence in what I wrote is EXACTLY what your last paragraph is saying. I apologize if you felt insulted, but like Tony said....your final point felt like a spit in the face, and I reacted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stephen
    I never tried to to insult your intelligence. If anything, I asked that you think more about what it is you were saying. You admit that you were "rambling" and I tried to make you more aware of that. I clearly understand and respect this post a lot more than the last one...the second sentence in what I wrote is EXACTLY what your last paragraph is saying. I apologize if you felt insulted, but like Tony said....your final point felt like a spit in the face, and I reacted.
    then i apologize as i did not mean to "spit in anyones face" nor downgrade anyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fight club
    then look to your parents and grandparents and see the huge obstacles they have over come. the use of the word and the use of "well my family comes from slaves" not only insults their slave ancestors, but their immediate family who fought for civil rights. in my mind, the word is an insult to the entire race of whoever uses it.
    I can pretty much address that along with everything else you typed in basically what I said before.. that is the problem, the parents are not there, at least in the black community it is the absence of fathers.

    I guarantee you get a good portion of those black kids that use the term on a regular basis, those kids that do not have respect for who and what they are and a good percentage of them did not have a strong parental base at home. With the lack of fathers to provide and give guidance the mother has to pull her weight as well as his his.. her time is usually spent trying to make ends meet.

    I want to expand on this further but I'm quite tired, I'll finish it tomorrow.

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