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    Quote Originally Posted by redGT
    Tony fact of the matter is you have still yet to definitevly proved that he misunderstood the culture of a war zone. All you have shown me is one video where he go two tribes mixed up. We all make small mistakes like that. McCain is a man no different or better from the rest of us.
    First, I'm not here to prove anything to you because at the end of the day, McCain is going to lose.. if you don't see that McCain does not have the mental capacity to effectively lead a country then nothing I type will sway that kind of ignorance anyway.

    Second, McCain better be different from the rest of us if he is trying to become Commander in Chief. First and foremost the Commander in Chief should not mistake the demographics of a present and at times hostile occupation. Those are the kind of mistakes that got us in this situation in the first place.. not understanding what is REALLY going on in Iraq

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    As far as the universal health care thing




    http://obama.senate.gov/speech/070125-the_time_has_co/
    Notice the title.
    You cite an article and quote from January 2007, I give you THE direct and current source in Barack Obama's healthcare plan. His positions have changed over the course of the campaign. Again, nowhere in his CURRENT plan does he mention Universal Healthcare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tony
    First, I'm not here to prove anything to you because at the end of the day, McCain is going to lose.. if you don't see that McCain does not have the mental capacity to effectively lead a country then nothing I type will sway that kind of ignorance anyway.
    Nor do I expect you to prove anything but yet you make a claim with no evidence to back it up and yet your adiment about it. I honestly like having these discussion with you, not debates, discussions because it makes me do research and evaluate certian standpoints. However I simply can not agree with you that the fact that you think that he doesnt have the mental capacity to be the president makes me an ignorant person. Frankly I think that kind of comment in it of itself is kind of ignorant my nothing personal but it's my opinoin.

    Quote Originally Posted by tony
    Second, McCain better be different from the rest of us if he is trying to become Commander in Chief. First and foremost the Commander in Chief should not mistake the demographics of a present and at times hostile occupation. Those are the kind of mistakes that got us in this situation in the first place.. not understanding what is REALLY going on in Iraq
    Your doing what the media does and misconstruing my comment. I'm not going to argue this point any further. Everyone accidentally for a breif second mixes up something with something else. I guarantee you that every president has said something backwards at one point in time and if you give Obama enough time he will as well. And when he does will you think differently of him? I highly doubt getting something backwards momentarily got us into iraq.



    Quote Originally Posted by tony
    You cite an article and quote from January 2007, I give you THE direct and current source in Barack Obama's healthcare plan. His positions have changed over the course of the campaign. Again, nowhere in his CURRENT plan does he mention Universal Healthcare.
    Yes your right in his current plan he doesn't mention universal healthcare but as you said he has swapped positions on many subjects 2 of which we have now proven. Two things that got him to where he is now.
    I simply put those up to show that he DID support it.

    Like I said I enjoy these discussions because I'm the type of person that likes to know everything I can about a subject and you help to acheive that. Just cause I may disagree with you on ceritian things doesn't mean I don't think your a good guy.


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