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    Default Did this bar owner go to far

    http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/met...gans_0514.html
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    Marietta bar owner Mike Norman says the T-shirts he's peddling, featuring a look-a-like of cartoon chimp Curious George peeling a banana, with "Obama in '08" underneath, are not meant to offend.

    Norman acknowledged the imagery's Jim Crow roots but said he sees nothing wrong with depicting a prominent African-American as a monkey,"We're not living in the (19)40's," he said. "Look at him . . . the hairline, the ears — he looks just like Curious George."

    About a dozen prostestors rallied against the shirts Tuesday afternoon, condemning them as racist and asking Norman, longtime proprietor of Mulligan's Bar and Grill on Roswell Street, to stop selling them.

    Marietta native Pam Lindley, 47, joined the protest after reading about the controversy online.

    "I don't want people to think this is what Marietta is all about," she added, motioning towards the tavern. "This is what some people think the South is still like. Marietta's come a long way but I guess it's still got a little ways to go."

    She said she'd like to see the city ban Norman's provocative musings regularly posted on a sign out front of the bar, which is near Marietta's downtown square. The loosely formed coalition of civil rights activists who gathered Tuesday say they will continue their campaign against Norman's "hate speech."

    But his defenders are just as resolute. Mulligan's is a refuge, they say, in an otherwise hypersensitive world. Here, smoking isn't only allowed, it's expected.

    "This place is a diamond in the rough," said Gene McKinley, a Woodstock engineer. "People here are genuine and honest. It's the one place I can go without having to worry if I'm offending someone."

    Norman said he's been he's been fielding calls throughout the day about his T-shirts, which he began selling in late April. "One guy in New Jersey wanted me to send him 100 shirts," said Norman, 63.

    He said he noted physical similarities between the Democratic front runner and the cartoon monkey while watching a Curious George movie with his grandchildren.

    Someone — "probably a customer, I don't know" — from Arkansas sent him the shirts, Norman says. He has no plans to mass market them.

    Not that's he's bowing to pressure. The Tennessee native figures he's providing a public service of sorts, reminding people they have a right to offend.

    "This is my marketing tool," he said.
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    lol i think it is a funny shirt... i want one and i'm voting Obama

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    1. To and too are two different words.

    2. Is he pro-Obama or not? I can't really tell.

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    lol so racist.

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    na i dont think its wrong kinda funny really but personally i could care less.


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    funny as hell imo, i want that shirt. hey look at it this way, the shirt is promoting.lolol.

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    well within his rights. so no he didnt go too far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by redGT
    well within his rights. so no he didnt go too far.
    even though you tryed to call me out in my attn: mr kidd thread, i like you. you stand on the same political end as i do and you believe in the same things i do. +1 for you.

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    well it depends how you look at it really, i mean i can see it as racist or as just for fun,

    honestly i see it has something as a joke, he didn't go far.

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    hell naw its to funny

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGodfather
    1. To and too are two different words.

    2. Is he pro-Obama or not? I can't really tell.
    grammar police to the rescue


    The Bar owner is well within his rights, but I hope no feels bad when his bar gets vandalized and/or when he starts receiving death threats.

    I guess anybody will do anything just to get business these days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dohc4.6sc
    even though you tryed to call me out in my attn: mr kidd thread, i like you. you stand on the same political end as i do and you believe in the same things i do. +1 for you.
    Are you going to suck his dic.k next?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TIGERJC
    grammar police to the rescue


    The Bar owner is well within his rights, but I hope no feels bad when his bar gets vandalized and/or when he starts receiving death threats.

    I guess anybody will do anything just to get business these days.
    true, look at IA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TIGERJC
    Are you going to suck his dic.k next?
    sorry im not a person who jumps on the bandwagon of hating ppl, i am on here to speak my mind openly, im sorry if that offends you.

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    man america is going down hill. any think can be viewed as "racist". and we need to be careful not to offend anyone. such bs!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dohc4.6sc
    sorry im not a peron who jumps on the bandwgon of hating ppl, i i am on here to speak my mind openly, im sorry if that offends you.
    You still haven't said no to my question
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    i dont think that this bar owner went to far with this... what ever happened to freedom of speach for one thing and for another thing. i think the people that are bitching are just looking for a way to get on tv and blow there day away. why dont they stop bitching for just one week, but that would probibly be too much to ask

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    Quote Originally Posted by TIGERJC
    Are you going to suck his dic.k next?
    i was expecting more from you liger
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    Nah not even. theres not enough alcohol on the planet that would convince me to bang that chick.I wouldn't hit that with Magic Johnson's dick.....on second thought
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    Quote Originally Posted by silversol
    man america is going down hill. any think can be viewed as "racist". and we need to be careful not to offend anyone. such bs!
    im on the opisite side, if something that i do daily ( making something funny, t shirt ) offends any african american, they just need to get the hell out of america. im not racist by any means but damn the black community complains alot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TIGERJC
    You still haven't said no to my question
    no, i would never suck a cawk.

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    If the owner wasn't about getting media attention, then I would really care less. The Bar owner is no different than Al sharpton, so if you have no problem with the bar owner then plz stop bitching about al sharpton and jesse jackson everytime they use racism for their benefit
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    Quote Originally Posted by TIGERJC
    If the owner wasn't about getting media attention, then I would really care less. The Bar owner is no different than Al sharpton, so if you have no problem with the bar owner then plz stop bitching about al sharpton and jesse jackson everytime they use racism for their benefit
    i dont think it is about media attn at all. from what the report said he has been doing this for quite a while and hasnt gotten any attn, he just happens to make a joke about a prominent half black man and it blows the hell up

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    Quote Originally Posted by redrumracer
    i dont think it is about media attn at all. from what the report said he has been doing this for quite a while and hasnt gotten any attn, he just happens to make a joke about a prominent half black man and it blows the hell up
    He might have been been trying to get media attention in the past, and nobody just so happened to pay him any mind. But who cares, I am just saying the same ppl that don't see anything wrong with what he is doing are the same ones that complain when Jesse jackson does the same thing. I guess because he is a simple redneck it was just harmless fun that never was suppose to blow up
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    Quote Originally Posted by TIGERJC
    I guess because he is a simple redneck it was just harmless fun that never was suppose to blow up
    this sounds more like a al sharpton statement than that tshirt
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    Quote Originally Posted by TIGERJC
    If the owner wasn't about getting media attention, then I would really care less. The Bar owner is no different than Al sharpton, so if you have no problem with the bar owner then plz stop bitching about al sharpton and jesse jackson everytime they use racism for their benefit
    you really are not helping matters much lolol

    more attention FTL

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    Quote Originally Posted by redGT
    this sounds more like a al sharpton statement than that tshirt
    so that statement offends you, just like that Monkey on the t-shirt offends some black ppl. I guess nobody these days are able to seethemselves in someone else's shoes
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    Quote Originally Posted by wantboost
    you really are not helping matters much lolol

    more attention FTL


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    Quote Originally Posted by TIGERJC
    so that statement offends you, just like that Monkey on the t-shirt offends some black ppl. I guess nobody these days are able to seethemselves in someone else's shoes
    No that statement doesnt offend me I'm just saying your sitting here comparing the shirt to something al sharpton would say and then you go and make a statement like his.
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    I see white people that look like monkeys.. same thing if you call them monkeys.. he looks like a monkey, its a caricature..

    this pisses me off..


    reminds me of:

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    Quote Originally Posted by redGT
    No that statement doesnt offend me I'm just saying your sitting here comparing the shirt to something al sharpton would say and then you go and make a statement like his.
    Sarcasm was on when I made that statement. I thought someone was going to argue that bar owner is no way like al sharpton
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frög
    I see white people that look like monkeys.. same thing if you call them monkeys.. he looks like a monkey, its a caricature..

    this pisses me off..


    reminds me of:
    I understand that it might be some likeness, but comparing a black person to a monkey is just like calling a black person a ***.ger. For many years blacks have been compared to primates, and thats still one subject that continues to upset black people. Just recently basketball player lebron james piss off ppl in the back community when he posed for a magazine cover doing the same pose as king kong climbing the tower
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    He is probably doing it to get attention and press time for his bar, and by rallying against him and gathering crowds those people are doing exactly what he wants.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dohc4.6sc
    im on the opisite side, if something that i do daily ( making something funny, t shirt ) offends any african american, they just need to get the hell out of america. im not racist by any means but damn the black community complains alot.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jecht
    He is probably doing it to get attention and press time for his bar, and by rallying against him and gathering crowds those people are doing exactly what he wants.
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    If it offends you, don't buy the shirt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nreggie454
    If it offends you, don't buy the shirt.

    That wouldn't solve anything

    "What if" the owner was truly racist and made the shirt just not only to bash Obama but the whole black race? By "letting it go", it would make him and others believe that bashing another race is cool and then others would follow with similar tactics.

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    well my absolute view on it is that he does look like a monkey so the shirt could have been very innocent
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigdare23
    That wouldn't solve anything

    "What if" the owner was truly racist and made the shirt just not only to bash Obama but the whole black race? By "letting it go", it would make him and others believe that bashing another race is cool and then others would follow with similar tactics.
    Either way, giving him more attention solves nothing. Movements gain momentum only because of the publicity they get, negative or positive. Again, if it bothers you, ignore him. This kind of publicity draws support from racist and non-racist people alike. If no publicity were given, this would be a fad that would die out fairly quickly. Now, it just has more strength.
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    at least he wasnt selling this shirt
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