Academics = Intelligence?

[0p7!mu5]

man tests dont prove ****! My SAT scores and my grades sucked but somehow I have a 140 Iq... I know why my scores sucked later. I had drama in highschool so i couldnt concentrate. tests dont account for that. And a lot of people now with all these degree's and high grades dont always do well. I know two folks with degrees and guess where they work: In the same warehouse as i do making 11/hr. Some jobs like google dont always require you to have any degree to make at least 12-17hr. i know i looked. I mean tests come in handy but nowadays teachers teach to the test and not the subject matter as i noticed.

[ahmonrah]

academics= intelligence......

the old debate since the formation of educational systems.....

in my own personal experience i believe academics CAN be a POSSIBLE reflection of intelligence, but it in no way equals it.

i've seen the brightest people in high school working at WENDY'S and the ones people thought were completely dumb holding mid to upper 5 figure jobs (or more) in fields that no one thought they would be in/ or no one knew existed.

i care not talk about myself, because, not that it's negative, it doesnt matter in this topic.

but according to merridian dictionary:
academics
A: of, relating to, or associated with an academy or school especially of higher learning
B: of or relating to performance in academic courses <academic excellence>
C: very learned but inexperienced in practical matters <academic thinkers> D: based on formal study especially at an institution of higher learning


i believe intelligence, though it can be measured by how people do in school, has more to do with an individuals ability to use EXPERIENCE or KNOWLEDGE(of their own, or others) to adapt and excel in the environment they are in.

BEING ABLE TO READ SOMEONES NAME THAT'S WRITTEN OUT IN BINARY CODE: my name= 01110010 01100001 01110011 01101000 01100001 01100100.

means nothing if i can't use that knowledge in practical life. and like SLEDLUDE SAID : you can't interact with others (in your environment)

[ahmonrah]

academics while it can be used to change your standing in your environment, more often than not, can be looked at as more of a gauge of what you can learn.

one of the smartest people i know (street smarts/book smarts/common sense) graduated from college with a computer science degree, top of his class, yet he could adapt to his past and present environments (southside CHI-town...hell chicago period/ southside atlanta i.e. college park mid 90's) and when he proved he could grasp "difficult" concepts in computing, but could'nt get a permanent job in that field (dot-com bust) adapted and he became a truck driver. simply enough, he didnt panic about not being hwere he wanted to be, he adjusted(adapted) and found what still made the same pay, just different field.

[TypeRPersonality]

Looking at the big picture, then yes; academics equals intelligence.

What a lot of members are trying to say is that academics doesn't always equal to success.

It's better to regret 4 years of college [in the sense it doesn't benefit you], then spending your life regret not going.

[ahmonrah]

i just looked up the definition of intelligence also.....i'm not completely off the mark.....

read up folks....

(1): the ability to learn or understand or to deal with new or trying situations : reason; also : the skilled use of reason

(2): the ability to apply knowledge to manipulate one's environment or to think abstractly as measured by objective criteria (as tests) bChristian Science : the basic eternal quality of divine Mind c: mental acuteness : shrewdness2 a: an intelligent entity; especially : angel b: intelligent minds or mind <cosmic intelligence>

3: the act of understanding : comprehension

[ironchef]

i just looked up the definition of intelligence also.....i'm not completely off the mark.....

read up folks....

(1): the ability to learn or understand or to deal with new or trying situations : reason; also : the skilled use of reason

(2): the ability to apply knowledge to manipulate one's environment or to think abstractly as measured by objective criteria (as tests) bChristian Science : the basic eternal quality of divine Mind c: mental acuteness : shrewdness2 a: an intelligent entity; especially : angel b: intelligent minds or mind <cosmic intelligence>

3: the act of understanding : comprehension

w00t, thats almost exactly what I said in my earlier post, FTW!

[yudalicious]

man tests dont prove ****! My SAT scores and my grades sucked but somehow I have a 140 Iq... I know why my scores sucked later. I had drama in highschool so i couldnt concentrate. tests dont account for that.

Did you go to a public high school in Ga? What type of IQ test did you take? I have a hard time believing someone with the IQ close to that of a genius couldn't do well in a ****ty public school system and ace the SAT, a test that doesn't really test for information retention but rather how logically and quickly you are able to think, especially on math.

[ahmonrah]

w00t, thats almost exactly what I said in my earlier post, FTW!

reps to you! because off my dome, prior to looking up those definitions, i stated what is meaning 2 of intelligence.

[ahmonrah]

Looking at the big picture, then yes; academics equals intelligence.

What a lot of members are trying to say is that academics doesn't always equal to success.

what the thread poster was asking....is what i was sticking to.....DOES ACADEMICS=INTELLIGENCE?

NO.

academics is a way to GAUGE intelligence.....as is REAL WORLD EXPERIENCE.

[ISAtlanta300]

On different levels; yes. I graduated HS with a 3.75 GPA. Took the SAT in only the 9th grade and scored a 1560/1600. Went to college and graduated Dean's List with 4.0 in computers. That's my educational background. I am, and I'm sure I can be vouched for by many on here, quite intelligent. My posts speak for my education as well. I even talk, most of the time, the same way I type. I play Jeopardy with other folks at the house and they wonder not only why I don't go on the show, but why and how I know most of the answers on the show. I don't attribute all my knowledge to schooling though. A lot of it is through memory retention. I've been watching quiz shows and doing crossword puzzles since I can remember. SO that part helped me with my intelligence level without schooling.

I believe, wholeheartedly, that good grades equals intelligence. But, on the other side of the fence, I don't believe (all the time) that bad grades equals stupidity. There are lots of intelligent people out there that DO NOT do well in test situations or in school period. Doesn't mean they aren't intelligent or smart. Just means they haven't applied themselves where it really does matter. In a school environment.

Later, QD.

Most intelligent post i've read, in this intelligence debate... pun intended.. lol

[0p7!mu5]

Did you go to a public high school in Ga? What type of IQ test did you take? I have a hard time believing someone with the IQ close to that of a genius couldn't do well in a ****ty public school system and ace the SAT, a test that doesn't really test for information retention but rather how logically and quickly you are able to think, especially on math.

It was a iq test my college psch teacher had us do. I'd have to look it up but i did take one early on in highschool i'd have to go look for them. the highschool one was a bit lower. Well to explain what I meant I was in advanced classes or honor courses till my junior year. Like I said a lot of drama happened like parents divorce, grandpa passing the day before i took the SAT just didnt quite help so my transcripts look like crap but since then I have been bringing my grades up dramatically. Like i said tests dont always account for outside stress. But I do agree it is a way to gague their intelligence.

[0p7!mu5]

addendum to that: also if the person cheats on the tests then it doesnt really help