Politics and religion are two arguments you will never win or change anyone's mind on.
Politics and religion are two arguments you will never win or change anyone's mind on.
did you not read 4 posts above you?
Epic Foxbody Thread Crew Member #10Originally Posted by Alan®
So is John Mccain a racist for voting against Martin Luther King day as a holiday
Originally Posted by MistaCee
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The obvious answer to that is no. I personally think its a stupid holiday that serves no purpose other than to give a people a day off from work.
Epic Foxbody Thread Crew Member #10Originally Posted by Alan®
If its so stupid why did he publically apologize?Originally Posted by redGT
because he's running for president and is going to get scrutinized for ever decision ever made.Originally Posted by MistaCee
Epic Foxbody Thread Crew Member #10Originally Posted by Alan®
LolololOriginally Posted by redGT
Therefore its not a stupid holiday.
Its not that dumb of a holiday esp. if he wants a piece of the black/hispanic voteOriginally Posted by redGT
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How is it a stupid holiday for a man lead the surge to unite us as one instead of being divided? Think about it this way if we were still "segregated" this country would have fallen apart after 9/11 or the draft would still be in play and instead of arguing politics about IRAQ you would be over there if you wanted to go or not.Originally Posted by redGT
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I'm sorry man don't get me wrong but there are plenty of other people that did extrordinary things in this country to make it what it is today and they didn't get a holiday. So why should he?Originally Posted by BB6dohcvtec
Epic Foxbody Thread Crew Member #10Originally Posted by Alan®
oh and not to get off topic but,.....
The way that Barack handled the "tough" questions during the last debate where he got aggrivated when he was asked about his relationship with William Ayres just proves that he will NOT be able to handle the questions he will face if President!
Lol John Mccain never got angry when asked a question?Originally Posted by JConner
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I also want to know the answer to that question.Originally Posted by MistaCee
wow you got all that from one debate. you should be a political analyst since your that good an get that analysis all off one debate.Originally Posted by JConner
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Originally Posted by BB6dohcvtec
he just made a very big deal about the questions that he was aked and said "we didnt talk about the economy, health care, etc... until 45 minutes into the debate!"
People want to hear answers to the tough questions. His response to health care, the economy and other topics is "CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN."
If your going to base it off one debate, I can go on youtube right now and find ridiculous amounts of video where McCain loses his cool when asked the tough questions. so does that mean McCain can't handle the tough questions if president?
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Originally Posted by BB6dohcvtec
oh i am not disagreeing with you about that....he is definately known for his temper.
Originally Posted by JConner
Ok then so what was said here
Is InvalidOriginally Posted by JConner
wow, glad i can have an intellectual argument with you. Did I ever say that McCain can handle tough questions?Originally Posted by MistaCee
Exactly, so what was the point of you saying barack can't handle the tough questions? knowing you candidate can't answer them either.Originally Posted by JConner
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Well if you did say Obama couldn't handle being president but McCain can then that is kind of implying that you was saying he could handle tough questionsOriginally Posted by JConner
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My point exactly I just went on youtube and found numerous videos that McCain has lost his "cool".Originally Posted by BB6dohcvtec
so the point of you saying "The way that Barack handled the "tough" questions during the last debate where he got aggrivated when he was asked about his relationship with William Ayres just proves that he will NOT be able to handle the questions he will face if President!" was what?
Since you know your candidate is known for losing his cool in a much more eruptive way?
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I'm going to hit the bed haha nice debating with you guys
Then explain because what I'm getting out of it is that you feel that he came out and appologized because he realized that there is some importance to the holiday, which there is, however 1.) like I said before he is in politics and if he is running for president he has to have a good explination for everything and 2.) it's still a stupid holiday and he just apologized for the sake of apologizing.Originally Posted by MistaCee
Epic Foxbody Thread Crew Member #10Originally Posted by Alan®
how is that a stupid holiday?
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Because if your going to create a holiday celebrating something important then make it all encompasing like presidents day. there was more than one form of segregation in this country. Seems that people forget that.Originally Posted by TIGERJC
Epic Foxbody Thread Crew Member #10Originally Posted by Alan®
Sounds like you want more holidays, still isn't really giving a real reason why it is a stupid holiday.Originally Posted by redGT
Of course there are more crusaders in America history and I do think they should also be recognize, but I don't get how you could call a holiday for person that actually did something worth while stupid
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Totally missed the point I was trying to make. Do I say I want more holidays? MLK DAY is a stupid holiday to me because it only shows one of the types of segregation and discrimination. Women were once discriminated against as well in this country yet it seems to me that everytime discrimination is brought up it always goes back to blacks and never makes it back to women as well. Which is why I say MLK day is a stupid holiday. The man did do a lot to end discrimination and segregation he wasn't the only one that worked towards this goal of equality and blacks were not the only ones discriminated against in this country. That is the point I was trying to make.Originally Posted by TIGERJC
Epic Foxbody Thread Crew Member #10Originally Posted by Alan®
I still can't make sense of your postOriginally Posted by redGT
. I still can't put women rights movement in the same category as the black civil right movement(Not taking anything away from that movement). MLK day is suppose to be the day people here in America reflect on the past, so that this horrible part of American history doesn't repeat itself. Of all the holidays on the calender, I still can't believe you call MLK DAY stupid. But it is your opinion, I DID kinda expected your stance on this by the way you decide on other topics on IA. I bet you also think the Gov't shouldn't have built a civil rights museum too ( It did take them long enough)
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well you can blame that on the values of Some American citzens. But I was raised to actually use that day to reflect on the past even if it was for only for an hour. When I was in grade school, I actually took trips on those days to historic black spots Like Tuskegee airman memorable, MLk center, or to my great grand father's house to hear his stories of him growing up in Alabama
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i some what agree with redgt on the MLK holiday thing, although i dont think its stupid, the man did do a lot for equality. but as far as holidays that are recognized like that(MLK) i think something like veterns day or something like that should be celebrated.
why does everyone always leave off the NONE OF THE ABOVE option?
well either way im goin to bed night chaps
Epic Foxbody Thread Crew Member #10Originally Posted by Alan®
Why do only Government workers get MLK day off?
Whitey is still trying to squash our movement...
Just a little add on. McCain is one of the most liberal republicans. If he gets elected don't be surprised if he pulls all the troops out of Iraq.
that has to be the 2nd dumbest statement I have read in this thread thus far. Why would the guy that worked across party lines to push the surge through pull every one out.Originally Posted by TheProfiteer
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Epic Foxbody Thread Crew Member #10Originally Posted by Alan®
Politics is a game buddy, you remember the only Republican canidate who openly said that he wanted to pull out of Iraq right?Originally Posted by redGT
Mr. Ron Paul, and how far did he get?
If your going to run republican, the last thing you want to do is contest the war the current administration tried so hard to justify.