I never do this, but premium was $3.55 here in Atlanta,sigh

[Johnny Chimpo]

A little unknown fact is that there is an oil field in Montana, N.D. and S.D. that is larger than ANY other in the world that was found in the 60's but has been kept a secret. The tree huggers dont want any more drilling or refining in the US, but this may be made VERY public in the next few weeks to squeeze them out and shut them up. The public will silence them when this comes out as most are fed up with the prices. E85 is a good alt. fuel but can never work as a primary fuel due to its burn rate (it burns 25% faster) and production rate. If you took every square foot of farm land in america and converted it to corn only it couldnt fuel 40% of the car on the road today if they all ran E85. This is not even taking into consideration of corn for live stock or human consumption and just look at the prices on milk how they have gone up (before the diesel prices went up). Now all food is going up due to the price of diesel and will continue until we can add more drilling and refining in the US.

[Motivation]

[QUOTE=Johnny Chimpo]A little unknown fact is that there is an oil field in Montana, N.D. and S.D. that is larger than ANY other in the world that was found in the 60's but has been kept a secret. The tree huggers dont want any more drilling or refining in the US, but this may be made VERY public in the next few weeks to squeeze them out and shut them up. The public will silence them when this comes out as most are fed up with the prices. E85 is a good alt. fuel but can never work as a primary fuel due to its burn rate (it burns 25% faster) and production rate. If you took every square foot of farm land in america and converted it to corn only it couldnt fuel 40% of the car on the road today if they all ran E85. This is not even taking into consideration of corn for live stock or human consumption and just look at the prices on milk how they have gone up (before the diesel prices went up). Now all food is going up due to the price of diesel and will continue until we can add more drilling and refining in the US.[/QUOTE]

Good luck on that one. If I am not mistaken, which I very well could be, there is a law that will not allow any more oil refineries to be built on U.S. soil. For the ones that are already up and running, it will be against the law to update them.

[Echonova]

[QUOTE=Motivation]

A little unknown fact is that there is an oil field in Montana, N.D. and S.D. that is larger than ANY other in the world that was found in the 60's but has been kept a secret. The tree huggers dont want any more drilling or refining in the US, but this may be made VERY public in the next few weeks to squeeze them out and shut them up. The public will silence them when this comes out as most are fed up with the prices. E85 is a good alt. fuel but can never work as a primary fuel due to its burn rate (it burns 25% faster) and production rate. If you took every square foot of farm land in america and converted it to corn only it couldnt fuel 40% of the car on the road today if they all ran E85. This is not even taking into consideration of corn for live stock or human consumption and just look at the prices on milk how they have gone up (before the diesel prices went up). Now all food is going up due to the price of diesel and will continue until we can add more drilling and refining in the US.[/QUOTE]

Good luck on that one. If I am not mistaken, which I very well could be, there is a law that will not allow any more oil refineries to be built on U.S. soil. For the ones that are already up and running, it will be against the law to update them.

There hasn't been a new refinery built in 30 years, yes there is a huge oil reserve there, no they didn't find it in the 60's and it's not a secret. Our own laws prevent us from drilling. Same with ANWAR in Alaska... How many of you know that was set aside for drilling? Now the Eco-nazi's have blocked us from drilling. BTW: E85 is a horrible alt. fuel. Diesel is the future...

[isa2o3]

[QUOTE=Echonova]

There hasn't been a new refinery built in 30 years, yes there is a huge oil reserve there, no they didn't find it in the 60's and it's not a secret. Our own laws prevent us from drilling. Same with ANWAR in Alaska... How many of you know that was set aside for drilling? Now the Eco-nazi's have blocked us from drilling. BTW: E85 is a horrible alt. fuel. Diesel is the future...

which laws?

[Echonova]

[QUOTE=isa2o3]

which laws?

Legislation > 2007-2008 (110th Congress)
H.R. 777: Clean Ocean and Safe Tourism Anti-Drilling Act
To amend the Outer Continental Shelf Lands Act to permanently prohibit the conduct of offshore drilling on the outer Continental Shelf in the Mid-Atlantic and North Atlantic planning areas.


I don't think this one passed, but they are all over the place... You could look yourself too...

[isa2o3]

[QUOTE=Echonova]

Legislation > 2007-2008 (110th Congress)
H.R. 777: Clean Ocean and Safe Tourism Anti-Drilling Act
To amend the Outer Continental Shelf Lands Act to permanently prohibit the conduct of offshore drilling on the outer Continental Shelf in the Mid-Atlantic and North Atlantic planning areas.


I don't think this one passed, but they are all over the place... You could look yourself too...

kool