Mike aka Vteckidd is no longer employed at Batlground.

[Tracy]

Someone goes against the grain and states HER opinion on something and gets jumped on, for saying shiit that others feel but don't want to say as to not piss people off....Well, I don't give a fuk so I'm going to say what the fuk I want.

Regardless of who is right in the inhouse dealings at BG, the thread was posted in the WHORESLOUNGE AND NOT THE SPONSORS SECTION.

Now being that the thread was originally made to "inform customers of changes happening", common sense would dictate that the SPONSOR'S SECTION would have been the more appropriate and sole place this should have been communicated in.

How someone can post a thread in the WHORESLOUNGE and then sit back and claim innocence is beyond me...This thread was made to elicit responses and was clearly a subtle attempt at a call out, point blank.

I don't know Mr.Kidd so I'm not taking sides..If it was the other way around, I'd be saying the same thing.

Wow! My bad for posting in the wrong section if that is the issue. To be honest, you are right. I just didn't think about it that way, but I should have posted it in there. In fact, I will request that it be moved. See how easy it is to work things out? No need to get rude or mean. I will continue to maintain my "innocence" on my reasoning behind posting this thread (despite posting it in the "wrong section")....I have yet to deviate from that

So maybe we can answer the ethical question now?

[Nismo]

Wow! My bad for posting in the wrong section if that is the issue. To be honest, you are right. I just didn't think about it that way, but I should have posted it in there. In fact, I will request that it be moved. See how easy it is to work things out? No need to get rude or mean. I will continue to maintain my "innocence" on my reasoning behind posting this thread (despite posting it in the "wrong section")....I have yet to deviate from that

So maybe we can answer the ethical question now?

A simple apology doesnt work in situation. Its like Oh opps I burned your house down, sorry. It doesnt clear it up.

[Tracy]

A simple apology doesnt work in situation. Its like Oh opps I burned your house down, sorry. It doesnt clear it up.

What are you talking about, hun? I'm not really all that sorry for posting "IN THE WRONG SECTION". I can just see where is is coming from. So, no, it's really not like burning someone's house down and apologizing for it. It's more like buying Gain instead of Tide...not that big of a deal....it's kind of a trivial thing to pick on. The fact still remains that he no longer works for us....no matter which section I post it in

[BobbyFresco]

Wow! My bad for posting in the wrong section if that is the issue. To be honest, you are right. I just didn't think about it that way, but I should have posted it in there. In fact, I will request that it be moved. See how easy it is to work things out? No need to get rude or mean. I will continue to maintain my "innocence" on my reasoning behind posting this thread (despite posting it in the "wrong section")....I have yet to deviate from that

So maybe we can answer the ethical question now?

First off, I have no beef with you and I can also say that I have not been "mean or rude".
Secondly, I am merely pointing out that this thread, no matter how much you deny it, was made to instigate a confrontation with the other party involved...

You have been active on this website for a period of time that would lend to you being fully aware of where it should have been posted so I see through your whole " I posted this in the wrong section" routine.

Perhaps your actions are not unethical but it does however seem a bit unprofessional for you to make an announcement and at the same time make jabs about who really runs things and cutting out the middle person, etc, etc.

So you're going to tell me that wasn't intentional and that it was necessary to add all the extra jabs to convey that he was no longer employed with your company?

[Tracy]

First off, I have no beef with you and I can also say that I have not been "mean or rude".
Secondly, I am merely pointing out that this thread, no matter how much you deny it, was made to instigate a confrontation with the other party involved...

You have been active on this website for a period of time that would lend to you being fully aware of where it should have been posted so I see through your whole " I posted this in the wrong section" routine.

Perhaps your actions are not unethical but it does however seem a bit unprofessional for you to make an announcement and at the same time make jabs about who really runs things and cutting out the middle person, etc, etc.

So you're going to tell me that wasn't intentional and that it was necessary to add all the extra jabs to convey that he was no longer employed with your company?

I am telling you that it was NOT intentional. I was a little upset because of what is happening and didn't really think about which section I was posting in....since MOST of MY posts are made in the whoreslounge. The extra jabs? I have no idea what you are talking about. Saying that things are the same as they always have been? That Dan and Brandon are still the masterminds? That you can cut out the middle man because Dan will be answering the PM's? No, that was not the intention. The intention was to ensure that people know who builds the cars around here and if you knew the story you would know exactly why I specifically posted certain phrases. Trust me, they pertain. BTW, I get to say whether I felt you are being "rude or mean" It's seems more and more like the story will have to be told....despite the "professionalism" of it....since "all the cards are on the table" according to some. I'll let Dan do that if he wants.

I have actually decided while writing this that I am done with this site finally. I have grown out of it and I am over the immature, fickle people that make up the site. I really have no need to defend the shop...it used to be a time waster. Now, it's just stupid, especially since I have other things going on that don't pertain to the shop. I realized in the past few weeks as my posts have been declining that it's a waste of time to be here. As posted in the first post, you know what the deal is and who to contact.

Holler!

[Kaiser]

I am telling you that it was NOT intentional. I was a little upset because of what is happening and didn't really think about which section I was posting in....since MOST of MY posts are made in the whoreslounge. The extra jabs? I have no idea what you are talking about. Saying that things are the same as they always have been? That Dan and Brandon are still the masterminds? That you can cut out the middle man because Dan will be answering the PM's? No, that was not the intention. The intention was to ensure that people know who builds the cars around here and if you knew the story you would know exactly why I specifically posted certain phrases. Trust me, they pertain. BTW, I get to say whether I felt you are being "rude or mean" It's seems more and more like the story will have to be told....despite the "professionalism" of it....since "all the cards are on the table" according to some. I'll let Dan do that if he wants.

I have actually decided while writing this that I am done with this site finally. I have grown out of it and I am over the immature, fickle people that make up the site. I really have no need to defend the shop...it used to be a time waster. Now, it's just stupid, especially since I have other things going on that don't pertain to the shop. I realized in the past few weeks as my posts have been declining that it's a waste of time to be here. As posted in the first post, you know what the deal is and who to contact.

Holler!

Ever heard of NUNYA? For real, unless I am forced by an action of his, the secret is between us. I don't feel the need to call him out.

While I can't, and don't, give a crap about the "ethics" of this, I am gonna say that this looks like classic forum trolling. I'm not accusing you of trolling so much as I am just pointing out what it looks like, and why some people may be upset.

I don't know Mike, or you guys, except that I know BATLGROUND has a damn good reputation. Apparently, so does Mike in this community. While your original post was spot-on fine, your continous posts about "Unless he does something, I don't..." should have been dropped. If he does something, be the bigger person, just let him say what he wants to say. People will believe him, or they won't. People will believe you, or they won't. If it's none of our business then don't tease us by telling us you're not gonna tell us.

Secondly, if you're leaving IA, I respect that and I suggest you delete your account. Reduces temptation, and reduces the number of people who're going to call crap on you. Good luck in school, thanks for the contributions to the community you and the others at BATL have made, and I hope that I shed a little light on why your posts inadvertantly, I'm sure, helped to trigger massive spouts of drama and obnoxiousness.

[quickdodge®]

I am gonna say that this looks like classic forum trolling.

Do you have any idea what "trolling" is? Later, QD>

[nreggie454]

First off, I have no beef with you and I can also say that I have not been "mean or rude".
Secondly, I am merely pointing out that this thread, no matter how much you deny it, was made to instigate a confrontation with the other party involved...

You have been active on this website for a period of time that would lend to you being fully aware of where it should have been posted so I see through your whole " I posted this in the wrong section" routine.

Perhaps your actions are not unethical but it does however seem a bit unprofessional for you to make an announcement and at the same time make jabs about who really runs things and cutting out the middle person, etc, etc.

So you're going to tell me that wasn't intentional and that it was necessary to add all the extra jabs to convey that he was no longer employed with your company?

REPS.

While Tracy might not have had negative intentions by making this thread, I really think that someone with as much time on IA as her would know that the Whoreslounge is the last place to post a thread if you want to keep it drama-free.

[Leisa]

So maybe we can answer the ethical question now?

Well maybe unethical is a poor choice of a word to use...My apologies... I agree that it should have gone in the sponsors area...


I still love you Tracy~