I don't feel like arguing right now, but I'm sure I will soon. I'm not agreeing with the way it is being proposed to be paid for. I think the people who donate the $50 million dollars for the presidency campaigns should get in on paying for it
I don't feel like arguing right now, but I'm sure I will soon. I'm not agreeing with the way it is being proposed to be paid for. I think the people who donate the $50 million dollars for the presidency campaigns should get in on paying for it
Originally Posted by Tracy
make sure you google and bring some good facts to the table
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Make sure you don't come at me like that just because you don't agree with it. I'm not really the one. I don't have to google to have an opinion, budmake sure you google and bring some good facts to the table
Hahaha, I agree. I just vote for whichever person I think sucks the least.Make sure you don't come at me like that just because you don't agree with it. I'm not really the one. I don't have to google to have an opinion, bud
If anyone wants to know the truth about how I feel about any of it (which I'm sure you don't but f.uck it)...when they start using the popular vote and my vote actually counts...I'll vote. When it doesn't cost $50 million to run a campaign, I'll vote. Until then it's all just corrupt bullsh.it that my vote isn't going to change. I don't contribute/pay off enough to the rich people running this country to actually have a say.
-1 on canidates proposing to make healthcare a goverment entity. screwing with my money and my profession ftl.
the right to vote is just that... a RIGHT to vote... not a mandate. you have the choice to refrain from voting, but if you do so, you also waive your right to b!tch about policies.
btw, if hitlary is elected, who's moving to canada with me?
YOU ARE AN IDIOT! We do not have a RIGHT to vote! We are ALLOWED to vote! There is no constitutional right to vote, please read it before you speak.
I wonder when the ballot will address how much you can spend on a candidacy? Oh, I'm not a lobbyist.....so probably never
+ for you!
F this wage garnishment for people that do not want to pay for health care
Hitlary is playing off of the weakness of the american people.
the people that belive the bull**** she is saying about how people in america do not have the heath care they deserve will ruin this country. most of these people she is talking about that are so sad without health care are; illegals, college students who are perfectly healthy, and rich people who don't want to pay monthly for something that my not happen when they could write a check if anything ever happens.
Last edited by JConner; 02-04-2008 at 10:52 PM.
Socialized programs in general are a bad idea because it only leads to more and more money being pulled from the people to be put into them. People forget that all the heavy taxes we pay are still pretty new for this country. Income taxes weren't fully established until 1913 and then it was a much smaller percentage for everyone. And that just one of the taxes we pay. What is the cause of this you may ask... government run socialized programs like welfare, social security, ect... Medical coverage should be open to all and it is. Its just not free. But, if it becomes free then the level of care for all will most surely decline.
This all follows the typical run of a democracy's life. A democracy will die when the people who vote use that power to give themselves more and more. If this happens the economy will stagnate and then slowly decline until the government can no longer support itself and finally collapse. The avg. lifespan for a democracy... 200 years.
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I hope that you did not just say that we are a democracy.
we are a REPUBLIC not a democracy
Pledge of Allegiance ring a bell?
dont go all philosophical on this!! the discussion and posts were starting to get good. if you wanna knit pick take it to pm's please. you sound like a college professor trying to stir the pot freshman year to get you to figure out 'what you believe'
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i am not knit picking! there is a HUGE difference between a democracy and a republic!dont go all philosophical on this!! the discussion and posts were starting to get good. if you wanna knit pick take it to pm's please. you sound like a college professor trying to stir the pot freshman year to get you to figure out 'what you believe'
btw: college professors usually have an opposite view than me.
Last edited by JConner; 02-04-2008 at 11:52 PM.
If you actually read from the link... what I said was from a quote on there by a British professor discussing the Athenian REPUBLIC of 2000 years ago. I know the difference but democracy is our form of government. Its a republic because there are limits but its still a democracy.
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very well put and as you well know "the fall of rome"
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Income tax was only established to pay for Canada's part in WW1. Now everyone has become accustomed to working 4 months out of the year for uncle sam. It just goes to show that if you give an inch they take a mile. Socialized healthcare will never work as well as privatized healthcare. The government in america has become too large and plays too much a part in everyone's lives. Socialism just doesn't work. It has been played out. The people who would support a socialist like Hillary are those who have failed miserably at life and want handouts, and those who lack the ability to reason.
+ for you! Government does play toooooo much a role in our lives. The under-achievers (POOR) want more government while the high-achievers (rich) want less government.
I just watched a 13 year old boy say "Obama will fix what George Bush has messed up." on the 11:00 news
I dread the day that Hitlary or Osama Obama gets elected and we pull out of Iraq. We will soon thereafter be attacked by the radical islamic people again and those people that criticized Bush will wish he was still in office protecting us.
and hopefully people will realize that the original war wasnt about slavery.
seriously
i say **** everything and lets have another civil war and then start from scratch.
I kinda wish Bill Clinton was back in office lol.
time for me to go to bed. I hope I convinced some of the younger voters to think about their future today when they may .... or most likely will not, go to the polls to vote.
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