Ready to have your wages garnished?

[YoungGun]

Socialized programs in general are a bad idea because it only leads to more and more money being pulled from the people to be put into them. People forget that all the heavy taxes we pay are still pretty new for this country. Income taxes weren't fully established until 1913 and then it was a much smaller percentage for everyone. And that just one of the taxes we pay. What is the cause of this you may ask... government run socialized programs like welfare, social security, ect... Medical coverage should be open to all and it is. Its just not free. But, if it becomes free then the level of care for all will most surely decline.

This all follows the typical run of a democracy's life. A democracy will die when the people who vote use that power to give themselves more and more. If this happens the economy will stagnate and then slowly decline until the government can no longer support itself and finally collapse. The avg. lifespan for a democracy... 200 years.

http://www.catholic-convert.com/Defa...59&EntryID=395

[JConner]

Socialized programs in general are a bad idea because it only leads to more and more money being pulled from the people to be put into them. People forget that all the heavy taxes we pay are still pretty new for this country. Income taxes weren't fully established until 1913 and then it was a much smaller percentage for everyone. And that just one of the taxes we pay. What is the cause of this you may ask... government run socialized programs like welfare, social security, ect... Medical coverage should be open to all and it is. Its just not free. But, if it becomes free then the level of care for all will most surely decline.

This all follows the typical run of a democracy's life. A democracy will die when the people who vote use that power to give themselves more and more. If this happens the economy will stagnate and then slowly decline until the government can no longer support itself and finally collapse. The avg. lifespan for a democracy... 200 years. e

http://www.catholic-convert.com/Defa...59&EntryID=395

I hope that you did not just say that we are a democracy.


we are a REPUBLIC not a democracy

Pledge of Allegiance ring a bell?

[NevrNufTorq]

I hope that you did not just say that we are a democracy.


we are a REPUBLIC not a democracy

Pledge of Allegiance ring a bell?

dont go all philosophical on this!! the discussion and posts were starting to get good. if you wanna knit pick take it to pm's please. you sound like a college professor trying to stir the pot freshman year to get you to figure out 'what you believe'

[JConner]

dont go all philosophical on this!! the discussion and posts were starting to get good. if you wanna knit pick take it to pm's please. you sound like a college professor trying to stir the pot freshman year to get you to figure out 'what you believe'

i am not knit picking! there is a HUGE difference between a democracy and a republic!



btw: college professors usually have an opposite view than me.

[YoungGun]

I hope that you did not just say that we are a democracy.


we are a REPUBLIC not a democracy

Pledge of Allegiance ring a bell?

If you actually read from the link... what I said was from a quote on there by a British professor discussing the Athenian REPUBLIC of 2000 years ago. I know the difference but democracy is our form of government. Its a republic because there are limits but its still a democracy.

[NevrNufTorq]

Socialized programs in general are a bad idea because it only leads to more and more money being pulled from the people to be put into them. People forget that all the heavy taxes we pay are still pretty new for this country. Income taxes weren't fully established until 1913 and then it was a much smaller percentage for everyone. And that just one of the taxes we pay. What is the cause of this you may ask... government run socialized programs like welfare, social security, ect... Medical coverage should be open to all and it is. Its just not free. But, if it becomes free then the level of care for all will most surely decline.

This all follows the typical run of a democracy's life. A democracy will die when the people who vote use that power to give themselves more and more. If this happens the economy will stagnate and then slowly decline until the government can no longer support itself and finally collapse. The avg. lifespan for a democracy... 200 years.

http://www.catholic-convert.com/Defa...59&EntryID=395

very well put and as you well know "the fall of rome"

[_Christian_]

People forget that all the heavy taxes we pay are still pretty new for this country. Income taxes weren't fully established until 1913 and then it was a much smaller percentage for everyone. And that just one of the taxes we pay. What is the cause of this you may ask... government run socialized programs like welfare, social security, ect...

Income tax was only established to pay for Canada's part in WW1. Now everyone has become accustomed to working 4 months out of the year for uncle sam. It just goes to show that if you give an inch they take a mile. Socialized healthcare will never work as well as privatized healthcare. The government in america has become too large and plays too much a part in everyone's lives. Socialism just doesn't work. It has been played out. The people who would support a socialist like Hillary are those who have failed miserably at life and want handouts, and those who lack the ability to reason.

[JConner]

Income tax was only established to pay for Canada's part in WW1. Now everyone has become accustomed to working 4 months out of the year for uncle sam. It just goes to show that if you give an inch they take a mile. Socialized healthcare will never work as well as privatized healthcare. The government in america has become too large and plays too much a part in everyone's lives. Socialism just doesn't work. It has been played out. The people who would support a socialist like Hillary are those who have failed miserably at life and want handouts, and those who lack the ability to reason.

+ for you! Government does play toooooo much a role in our lives. The under-achievers (POOR) want more government while the high-achievers (rich) want less government.

I just watched a 13 year old boy say "Obama will fix what George Bush has messed up." on the 11:00 news

I dread the day that Hitlary or Osama Obama gets elected and we pull out of Iraq. We will soon thereafter be attacked by the radical islamic people again and those people that criticized Bush will wish he was still in office protecting us.

[redrumracer]

the CSA needs to win this time

and hopefully people will realize that the original war wasnt about slavery.

[_Christian_]

and hopefully people will realize that the original war wasnt about slavery.

seriously