one name conspicuously missing from this list.
san diego chargers
new england patriots
green bay packers
new york giants
one name conspicuously missing from this list.
Epic Foxbody Thread Crew Member #10Originally Posted by Alan®
IT SURE AS HELL AIN'T BRADY. PUT DOUG FLUTIE ON THAT LIST BEFORE YOU PUT BRADY.
Sure as hell is BradyOriginally Posted by GKtib®
Come on man think about it. The guy started off as a loser in High School was the 6TH ROUND DRAFT PICK in the NFL. then 3rd or 4th string QB up until 7 years ago and now has gotten 3 Super bowls in the last 5 years come on. This supposed to be the guy that is too small and doesn't have the arm strength to play in the NFL
Epic Foxbody Thread Crew Member #10Originally Posted by Alan®
his skill as a QB is overshadowed by the fact that the team he's been on is fucking STACKED.Originally Posted by redGT
Imagine if he had gone to the Rams, Cardinals, or 49ers...
but still he man he works his ass off. if you dont have skills the fact that the team is stacked doesn't mean ****. You know when they played the giants he beat Belicheck to practice and belicheck asked him if he had reviewed any of the games and if he needed to look at something specific. Brady said yup all 15. When he is in the pocket it's astonishing to see his composure and the way he is in the pocket. I watch the game in high def and its always the same thing. you can watch his eyes go from left to right picking out recievers.Originally Posted by GKtib®
Epic Foxbody Thread Crew Member #10Originally Posted by Alan®
fine, put him on the list so you'll quit whining lol
o i forgat Bart starr,dan flouts(sp),bradshaw,marino,warren moon...and i know im missing some more
mike vick.
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lol,i was gonna say itOriginally Posted by GKtib®
lol at mike vick
Epic Foxbody Thread Crew Member #10Originally Posted by Alan®
Very true, Peyton > Brady.Originally Posted by GKtib®
I'll be impressed when Brady can go out there and control a clock and dictate the pace of the game, and run entire drives no huddle. But until then, he's just another QB with above average accuracy.
Hell any random guy off the street can be Tom Brady when you have an O-line that doesnt let anybody touch you, 5-6 seconds to sit back and scan the field, and about 3-4 recievers that ALWAYS get open.
have you not watched the entire last half of the season? The o-line hasn't been getting him **** for coverage. take the eagles game. that **** was ridiculous. Brady has and can control the clock. He may not be able to just dictate a game but I do not agree with Peyton>Brady. Again you gotta look at their histories in the game manOriginally Posted by JustinSane110™
Epic Foxbody Thread Crew Member #10Originally Posted by Alan®
yep the pats, how unexpected
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Yeah, that same Eagles game that they SHOULD'VE lost, LOLOriginally Posted by redGT
That sentence seems like quite a little contradiction there doesn't it?Originally Posted by redGT
Lets do that then, I got some time lol. Going off of their histories still would put Manning (94.1 career rating) over Brady (92.9 rating). On top of that, this is the first season Brady has been over a mid 90 QB rating, while Manning has had 6, 5 of those being the past 5 seasons consecutively. Even looking at this incredible stat season that Brady has had his rating was a 117.2, while Manning's highest season is a 121.1 in 2004 (where the Colts went 12-4, but Manning still rated higher than Brady on a 16-0 team this season). Manning set a 49 TD record on a 12-4 team, Brady passed it by 1 TD on a 16-0 team, EVEN with Belichick's "throw for the endzone even with a 45 point lead" ego.Originally Posted by redGT
Originally Posted by JustinSane110™
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Ok but who honestly still has more room to grow as a player Brady or Peyton?
Think about this for a second......
Manning:
Startered in High School
Was a 3rd String quarterback in College in his freshman year but got to start because of injuries to the 1st and 2nd string QB's And then played beautifully
1st overall pick in the draft in 98![]()
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See where i'm going witrh this. It doesn't exactly hurt either when your old man played in the NFL either does it?
Brady:
Started in High School
Was 7th string QB but worked his way up to second string where he took over as starter
Brady was the 199th overall pick (7th round I beliebve)in the NFL draft in 2000 where he became 4th string QB but makes it to 2nd string by the end of the season.
Brady finally becomes starter after the jets game in 2001 resulting in injuries to then starting QB Beldose.(They lost this game)
Brady then puts up 79.6 rating after BEATING the Colts 44-3
Brady gets them to the play offs in 2001 and wins the super bowl his first time out
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While peyton manning and the colts have only been to the big dance once in 7 YEARS
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Epic Foxbody Thread Crew Member #10Originally Posted by Alan®
Wow, I love it when the Brady nutriders realize they've lost the stat argument and it suddenly becomes a predictable "Who's got more superbowls". Even with more superbowls the stats still speak for themselves that Manning is the better QB.Originally Posted by redGT
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Originally Posted by quickdodge®
my childhood hero. i'm biased, needless to say.
Originally Posted by JustinSane110™
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How about we just let the chargers show how good the Pats and tom brady are. Yea Manning might have better stats but lets not forget Manning has 2 more yaers under his belt. than brady and really when you think about its really 3 more years. I'm not a nutrider I'm a fan I'm sorry that manning didn't take the colts to the super bowl again this year. But basically when you can't make an argument without calling someone a nutrider you really show that you have run out of things to argue. To actually address what you said. The reason the whole "Who's got more super bowls" arguement comes up is because THAT'S WHAT QB'S GET PAID TO DO TO GET TO AND WIN SUPERBOWL'S!!!
Epic Foxbody Thread Crew Member #10Originally Posted by Alan®
I didn't run out of things to argue, I called you a nutrider for throwing out that lame assOriginally Posted by redGT
smiley when I put up solid proof that Manning is a better QB than Brady, and the fact that you used every bit of QB history possible to argue Brady's case while all you said for Manning was:
The 2 more years under his belt would be a valid argument, but even then, look at their past 5-6 consecutive seasons AFTER Brady was already an established starter in the Pats superbowl seasons.Originally Posted by redGT
Aw damn, and all this time I thought the rest of the team had something to do with that, lol. Like what was said earlier, do you believe Brady could've gotten those rings with the Raiders, 49ers, Cardinals, etc?Originally Posted by redGT
You obviously did because you are still using the same two points.Originally Posted by JustinSane110™
As far as me saying I only used one point on Manning you obviously missed my point but I will straight come out and say it. Manning comes from an NFL family Started in High School started in college 1st over all pick in the draft The point being that manning was set up for greatness has had two more years in the NFL and yet has really not done much in spite of having no real obstacles to over come.
While Brady has had to work his ass off to get to where he is at.
Yes the other players are also paid to get the team to the super bowl but without a good quarter back you can basically forget it.
And finally as far as the argument of Brady being able to do the same thing in other cities....to be honest who knows
Epic Foxbody Thread Crew Member #10Originally Posted by Alan®
oh really? well by the result of that game they put more than two.Originally Posted by GKtib®
haha
Truth... I felt so bad for the kicker when he lost the field goal that put them into over time. I was glad he got to redeem himself. I didn't really care either way, however Farve has got to go to the Superbowl before so...![]()
and it down to the giants > patriots
i got my money on the giants by a touch down
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Pats will prolly win but Im still rooting for the Giants.
Brady>Peyton
Why you think nobody talks about it anymore. It's been decided.
it's gay that the packers aren't in it... favre > Brady
Originally Posted by Kelly
it's favre... pronounced farve....
Originally Posted by Killer
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Don't get me wrong, I love Favre. When he threw that int. I cried on the inside but don't lie to yourself.