his skill as a QB is overshadowed by the fact that the team he's been on is fucking STACKED.Originally Posted by redGT
Imagine if he had gone to the Rams, Cardinals, or 49ers...
san diego chargers
new england patriots
green bay packers
new york giants
his skill as a QB is overshadowed by the fact that the team he's been on is fucking STACKED.Originally Posted by redGT
Imagine if he had gone to the Rams, Cardinals, or 49ers...
but still he man he works his ass off. if you dont have skills the fact that the team is stacked doesn't mean ****. You know when they played the giants he beat Belicheck to practice and belicheck asked him if he had reviewed any of the games and if he needed to look at something specific. Brady said yup all 15. When he is in the pocket it's astonishing to see his composure and the way he is in the pocket. I watch the game in high def and its always the same thing. you can watch his eyes go from left to right picking out recievers.Originally Posted by GKtib®
Epic Foxbody Thread Crew Member #10Originally Posted by Alan®
Very true, Peyton > Brady.Originally Posted by GKtib®
I'll be impressed when Brady can go out there and control a clock and dictate the pace of the game, and run entire drives no huddle. But until then, he's just another QB with above average accuracy.
Hell any random guy off the street can be Tom Brady when you have an O-line that doesnt let anybody touch you, 5-6 seconds to sit back and scan the field, and about 3-4 recievers that ALWAYS get open.
have you not watched the entire last half of the season? The o-line hasn't been getting him **** for coverage. take the eagles game. that **** was ridiculous. Brady has and can control the clock. He may not be able to just dictate a game but I do not agree with Peyton>Brady. Again you gotta look at their histories in the game manOriginally Posted by JustinSane110™
Epic Foxbody Thread Crew Member #10Originally Posted by Alan®
Yeah, that same Eagles game that they SHOULD'VE lost, LOLOriginally Posted by redGT
That sentence seems like quite a little contradiction there doesn't it?Originally Posted by redGT
Lets do that then, I got some time lol. Going off of their histories still would put Manning (94.1 career rating) over Brady (92.9 rating). On top of that, this is the first season Brady has been over a mid 90 QB rating, while Manning has had 6, 5 of those being the past 5 seasons consecutively. Even looking at this incredible stat season that Brady has had his rating was a 117.2, while Manning's highest season is a 121.1 in 2004 (where the Colts went 12-4, but Manning still rated higher than Brady on a 16-0 team this season). Manning set a 49 TD record on a 12-4 team, Brady passed it by 1 TD on a 16-0 team, EVEN with Belichick's "throw for the endzone even with a 45 point lead" ego.Originally Posted by redGT
Originally Posted by JustinSane110™
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Ok but who honestly still has more room to grow as a player Brady or Peyton?
Think about this for a second......
Manning:
Startered in High School
Was a 3rd String quarterback in College in his freshman year but got to start because of injuries to the 1st and 2nd string QB's And then played beautifully
1st overall pick in the draft in 98![]()
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See where i'm going witrh this. It doesn't exactly hurt either when your old man played in the NFL either does it?
Brady:
Started in High School
Was 7th string QB but worked his way up to second string where he took over as starter
Brady was the 199th overall pick (7th round I beliebve)in the NFL draft in 2000 where he became 4th string QB but makes it to 2nd string by the end of the season.
Brady finally becomes starter after the jets game in 2001 resulting in injuries to then starting QB Beldose.(They lost this game)
Brady then puts up 79.6 rating after BEATING the Colts 44-3
Brady gets them to the play offs in 2001 and wins the super bowl his first time out
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While peyton manning and the colts have only been to the big dance once in 7 YEARS
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Epic Foxbody Thread Crew Member #10Originally Posted by Alan®
Wow, I love it when the Brady nutriders realize they've lost the stat argument and it suddenly becomes a predictable "Who's got more superbowls". Even with more superbowls the stats still speak for themselves that Manning is the better QB.Originally Posted by redGT
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Originally Posted by JustinSane110™
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How about we just let the chargers show how good the Pats and tom brady are. Yea Manning might have better stats but lets not forget Manning has 2 more yaers under his belt. than brady and really when you think about its really 3 more years. I'm not a nutrider I'm a fan I'm sorry that manning didn't take the colts to the super bowl again this year. But basically when you can't make an argument without calling someone a nutrider you really show that you have run out of things to argue. To actually address what you said. The reason the whole "Who's got more super bowls" arguement comes up is because THAT'S WHAT QB'S GET PAID TO DO TO GET TO AND WIN SUPERBOWL'S!!!
Epic Foxbody Thread Crew Member #10Originally Posted by Alan®