the king is dead... bye bye GT-R

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12-30-2007, 12:51 PM
Leadfoot_mf

Quote:

Originally Posted by hondabuilder

that car is gorgeous. i agree on the point that the NSX will most likely not compete. Honda has never been in the game for raw power and numbers. However, that is the reason that the original NSX was so misunderstood, it never was very fast (not for the money) but it was BALANCED, which is why the few that get it, love them.

lol at balanced ****ing miatas are balanced but they are still slow as ****.
12-30-2007, 01:12 PM
GGPIS3

^^ when we going to shoot some more pool...?? maybe we can have a rally from different pool halls lol
12-30-2007, 01:18 PM
1SICKLEX

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chink5

its a bad-ass car, but no need to have a 210mph top end. thats just ridiculous, no need for anyone to go that fast. maby 180, even then its still pushing the limits.
the nsx it might have a chance cause like it was stated above, it has a really good balance, and with the right amount of power behind it and a good gear ratio it just might keep up, may not beat it, but at least hang with the comp.

It battles exotics and its about bragging rights. Hell we technically don't need cars to do 100mph in America, let alone 200 or 210.

The NSX would be killed and the NSX-R wouldn't stand much better, its best times on the Ring are;
7:56 --- Honda NSX-R - Motoharu Kurosawa, Best MOTORing
compared to
7:24 --- Lexus LF-A

Thats not even close on a track.
12-30-2007, 01:34 PM
Thighs

still slower than both record-holding radicals, and the donkervoort.

http://www.fastestlaps.com/track2.html

LEXUS FTL
12-30-2007, 01:37 PM
GGPIS3

**** a radical... they aren't street cars.
12-30-2007, 01:38 PM
Thighs

oh yes they are. if its street legal it can be a street car lol.
12-30-2007, 01:53 PM
OneSlow5pt0

**** those big go karts
12-30-2007, 01:56 PM
Thighs

hahah but its still a production street car... :goodjob:
12-30-2007, 01:58 PM
GGPIS3

Quote:

Originally Posted by jesse4846

oh yes they are. if its street legal it can be a street car lol.

oh no.. not this again.... :rolleyes:
12-30-2007, 02:00 PM
Thighs

haha nooo im not gonna start a huge e-fight over it...

im just saying, the lexus is fast, but it didnt smash the record like you said.. lol
12-30-2007, 02:01 PM
Maniac1

Both cars, look hideous. But if I were to get any, I would go with the GT-R, cheaper and looks little better IMO.
12-30-2007, 02:01 PM
Jaimecbr900

Good grief, give it up on the stupid Radical already.

It might be "street legal" in some states, just like a lot of retarded stuff is allowed in some states and not others. Are there "RADICAL" dealerships? What kind of annual production and sales numbers do they have? Does it pass emmissions? Does it have the proper safety equipment? Well, if the "no's" outnumber the "yes" then there's your answer. :rolleyes:

Didn't the Koenigg have some issues a few years ago qualifying for some records because of productions numbers?
12-30-2007, 02:02 PM
Jaimecbr900

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maniac©

Both cars, look hideous. But if I were to get any, I would go with the GT-R, cheaper and looks little better IMO.

Dude, you do know your grill looks like a Peugeot, right???? :lmfao: :lmfao: JP.
12-30-2007, 02:05 PM
Maniac1

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaimecbr900

Dude, you do know your grill looks like a Peugeot, right???? :lmfao: :lmfao: JP.

Lolol I've never said it looked, cute. :(

But you have to take into consideration, that the lexus is still in the concept stage. So who knows how it'll look when they start the production starts. Im sure it'll be a badass car all around, power, handling, braking, ect. To me, as it sits right now, it's not the best looking car. To me, I would go with the GT-R. :p
12-30-2007, 02:05 PM
OneSlow5pt0

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaimecbr900

Good grief, give it up on the stupid Radical already.

It might be "street legal" in some states, just like a lot of retarded stuff is allowed in some states and not others. Are there "RADICAL" dealerships? What kind of annual production and sales numbers do they have? Does it pass emmissions? Does it have the proper safety equipment? Well, if the "no's" outnumber the "yes" then there's your answer. :rolleyes:

Didn't the Koenigg have some issues a few years ago qualifying for some records because of productions numbers?

u cant get the new koenigg in america can u? with the bio fuel v8
12-30-2007, 02:06 PM
GGPIS3

Quote:

Originally Posted by jesse4846

haha nooo im not gonna start a huge e-fight over it...

im just saying, the lexus is fast, but it didnt smash the record like you said.. lol

i did say i may be getting a little ahead of myself.... good grief!! :tongue1:
12-30-2007, 02:09 PM
Leadfoot_mf

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaimecbr900

Good grief, give it up on the stupid Radical already.

It might be "street legal" in some states, just like a lot of retarded stuff is allowed in some states and not others. Are there "RADICAL" dealerships? What kind of annual production and sales numbers do they have? Does it pass emmissions? Does it have the proper safety equipment? Well, if the "no's" outnumber the "yes" then there's your answer. :rolleyes:

Didn't the Koenigg have some issues a few years ago qualifying for some records because of productions numbers?

they are legal in england where they are made. thats why they are on the list.
12-30-2007, 02:10 PM
1SICKLEX

Quote:

Originally Posted by jesse4846

haha nooo im not gonna start a huge e-fight over it...

im just saying, the lexus is fast, but it didnt smash the record like you said.. lol

We didn't say it, everyone ELSE did.
http://www.autoblog.com/2007/12/28/l...ng-of-the-ring
http://www.autospies.com/news/Lexus-...seconds-24268/

Radicals are cool and all but its not really a CAR, more of a kit car.

http://www.cgimotorsports.com/images...4035_large.jpg
12-30-2007, 02:11 PM
1SICKLEX

Again, the LF-A will go in production, the record is for production cars you can buy.

6:55 Radical SR8 360 PS/650 kg Michael Vergers 2005-09-28 Video
7:11 McLaren F1 #LMXP1 (Promotional Car) Mika Häkkinen Source
7:12 Radical SR3 Turbo 320 PS/500 kg Phil Bennett Test Drive 07/03
7:14 Donkervoort D8 RS 398 PS/760 kg Michael Düchting Sport Auto 11/05
7:15 Edo Porsche GT2 RS 612 PS/1284 kg Patrick Simon 2005-08-04 Video
7:18 Donkervoort D8 RS 370 PS/670 kg Michael Düchting Sport Auto 12/04
7:22 Loaded BMW M3 CSL ~600PS/1427kg Richard Göransson 2007-11-05 video incl RG + 30L fuel, MPSC tires, (Sport Auto Lap with 3 overtakes)
7:24 Pre-Production Lexus LF-A 1SICKLEX 2007 (with Jay-Z playing out of Mark Levinson system)
7:27.82 Pagani Zonda F Clubsport 650 PS/1230 kg 2007-09 video Semi-wet conditions.
7:28 Porsche Carrera GT 612 PS/1380 kg Walter Röhrl 2004 Autobild 07/04
7:32 Porsche 997 GT2 2008 530 PS/1440 kg Walter Röhrl 2007 Motor Authority, Autobild Semi-slicks tires.
7:32 Gemballa Porsche GTR 600 PS/1380 kg Gemballa
7:34 Koenigsegg CCR 806 PS/1140 kg Horst von Saurma 2005-10-17 - 2005-10-18 Sport Auto Cold conditions
7:38.54* Nissan GT-R 480 PS/1740 kg Toshio Suzuki 2007-09-24 *NISSAN 10/7 Video[3] bridge to gantry. Run flat tires. Semi-wet conditions.
7:39 Porsche 997 GT3 415 PS/1395 kg Vincent (Enzo) Brulo Sport Auto 05/06
7:39 TechArt GTstreet (07) Sport Auto 10/07
7:40 Mercedes-Benz SLR McLaren 626PS/1768 kg Klaus Ludwig AutoBild
7:40 Bugatti Veyron 16/4 1001PS/1888 kg Wheels Magazine Australia, 12/05
7:41 Manthey Porsche GT3 M410 413 PS/1320 kg Lucas Luhr Autobild 07/04 160.868 km/h
7:42 Ford GT 550 PS/1521 kg Octane magazine, 11/05
7:42.9 Chevrolet Corvette C6 Z06 505hp / 1450 kg Jan Magnussen 2005 Motor Trend[4] Muggy conditions
7:43 Lamborghini Murcielago (Autocar magazine 02)
7:43 TechArt GTstreet Sport Auto 08/01
7:44 Pagani Zonda S 550 PS/1280 kg Horst von Saurma Sport Auto 02/05
7:46 Porsche 996 GT2 462 PS/1450 kg Horst von Saurma Sport Auto 06/01
7:47 Ferrari 599 GTB Fiorano 620PS/1690 kg Horst von Saurma Sport Auto
7:47 Lamborghini Murcielago LP640 E-gear 640 PS/n/a Horst von Saurma Sport Auto 01/07 Sport tyres
7:48 Audi TT 225 Coupe Quattro 365 PS/ 2005 [citation needed]
7:49 Blitz Toyota Supra 750PS Herbert Schürg 1997 Video Option Vol.50 Refer to link for modification details
7:50 BMW M3 E46 CSL 360 PS/1421 kg Horst von Saurma Sport Auto 08/03
7:50 BMW X5 E53 LM Hans-Joachim Stuck 2000 EVO magazine 08/2005 BMW M70 S70B56 engine from a V12 LMR producing 750 bhp
7:50 Nissan GT-R 480ps/1740kg(3800lb) Horst von Saurma SportAuto 12/07 Semi-wet track
7:53 Chevrolet Corvette C5 Z06 405 PS/1409.1 KG (3100 lb) Dave Hill [9]
7:54 Mercedes CLK DTM AMG 582 PS/1678kg Sport Auto 03/05
7:55 Caterham R500 Superlight 233 PS/460 kg Robert Nearn EVO magazine 07/2000
7:55 Ferrari F430 F1 490 PS/1493 kg Horst von Saurma Sport Auto 01/06
7:56 Honda NSX-R (NA2) 280 PS/1270 kg Motoharu Kurosawa Best MOTORing 08/02
7:56 Porsche 996 Turbo 420PS Horst von Saurma Sport Auto 06/00
7:56 Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale Horst von Saurma Sport Auto 02/04 Sport tyres
7:59 Porsche 997 Carrera S Walter Röhrl WHEELS 06/04 PASM setting “Performance”
7:59 Nissan Skyline GT-R R33 Dirk Schoysmans Autocar magazine 1997 Without speed limiter
7:59 Dodge Viper SRT-10 2005-11-?? Motor Trend
7:59 Subaru Impreza Sti Spec-C 280 PS/1370 kg Subaru News 2004
8:01 Nissan Skyline GT-R R33 280 PS/1540 kg Motoharu Kurosawa Best Motoring - Video Special DVD Series Prototype (weight/horsepower different from production car)
8:02 Mercedes CLK 63 AMG - Black Series 507 PS/ 1790 kg Autobild 07/07
8:02:033 Alfa Romeo 8C Competizione 450 PS/ 1580 kg [citation needed]
8:03 Aston Martin V8 Vantage (2005) 380 bhp/1570 kg Horst von Saurma Sport Auto 10/05
8:03 Porsche 911 GT3 360 PS/1391 kg Horst von Saurma Sport Auto 08/99
8:03 Honda NSX-R (NA1) 280 PS/1230 kg Motoharu Kurosawa Best MOTORing 02/06
8:05 BMW M3 E92 420 PS/**** kg Horst von Saurma* Sport Auto 12/07 *Confirmation of weight and driver requested
8:06 Subaru WRX STi Spec-C 280 PS/1370 kg Motoharu Kurosawa Best Motoring Video "NISMO Beast Unleashed"
8:07 BMW Z8 E52 400 PS/1615 kg autobild.de 06/01
8:09 Audi RS4 420 PS sport auto 06/2006
8:09 BMW M6 E63 507 PS/n/a Horst von Saurma Sport Auto 12/05 Sport tyres, limited to 259 km/h
8:09 Honda NSX-R 320 PS/1467 kg Sport Auto 08/02 Sport tires, suspension modification
8:10 Chrysler Viper GTS Horst von Saurma Sport Auto 10/97
8:11 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution IX GSR prototype 280 PS/1420 kg Takayuki Kino****a Best Motoring Video "Carrera Invasion"
8:13 BMW M5 E60 507 PS Horst von Saurma Sport Auto 12/04
8:13 Ferrari 355 GTB Sport Auto 10/1994
8:22 Chevrolet Cobalt SS 2008 2.0 Turbo GM[citation needed]
8:22 Nissan Skyline GT-R R32 280 PS/1430 kg Motoharu Kurosawa Best Motoring Video Special DVD
8:22 BMW M3 E46 343 PS/1584 kg Horst von Saurma Sport Auto 12/00
8:22 BMW M Coupe E36/7 321 PS/1445 kg Horst von Saurma Sport Auto 10/98
8:24 Subaru Impreza WRX STI Sport Auto 05/04 Sport tires
8:25 Jaguar XKR Horst von Saurma Sport Auto
8:25 Porsche Cayman S Horst von Saurma Sport Auto
8:24 Mitsubishi Charisma GT Evo VI Horst von Saurma Sport Auto 11/99 Sport tires
8:25 Mitsubishi Charisma GT Evo VII Horst von Saurma Sport Auto 11/02 Sport tires
8:26 BMW 335i E92 Coupe 306 PS Horst von Saurma Sport Auto 306 hp
8:26 Nissan 350Z Horst von Saurma Sport Auto 10/03
8:28 Porsche 911 Carrera (993) 272 PS Horst von Saurma Sport Auto 07/97
8:32 Porsche Boxster S 252 PS Horst von Saurma Sport Auto 12/99
8:38 Honda NSX Sport Auto, 08/97
8:39 Honda S2000 Horst von Saurma Sport Auto 01/00
8:40 Chevrolet Corvette C5 automatic 344 PS/1505 kg Sport Auto 07/97 Crash involving civilian later in the lap
8:42 Lotus Exige Horst von Saurma Sport Auto 11/00 Sport tires
8:47 Honda Civic Type-R Horst von Saurma Sport Auto 11/01
9:12 Jaguar S-Type Diesel Sabine Schmitz Top Gear Driven for an episode of Top Gear, (Series 5, Episode 5 Bridge to Gantry)[10]
10:08 Ford Transit (van) Sabine Schmitz Top Gear Driven for an episode of Top Gear, (Series 6, episode 7; Bridge to Gantry)
12-30-2007, 02:12 PM
OneSlow5pt0

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX

We didn't say it, everyone ELSE did.
http://www.autoblog.com/2007/12/28/l...ng-of-the-ring
http://www.autospies.com/news/Lexus-...seconds-24268/

Radicals are cool and all but its not really a CAR, more of a kit car.

http://www.cgimotorsports.com/images...4035_large.jpg

i think if cars like the atom and radical can be on the lis tthey should start running superbikes too...:D
12-30-2007, 02:13 PM
Crazy Asian

Pre-Production Lexus LF-A 1SICKLEX 2007 (with Jay-Z playing out of Mark Levinson system)

HAHAHAHHAH LOLOLOL!
12-30-2007, 02:14 PM
1SICKLEX

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crazy Asian

Pre-Production Lexus LF-A 1SICKLEX 2007 (with Jay-Z playing out of Mark Levinson system)

HAHAHAHHAH LOLOLOL!

What!?!!? That was me driving it!! The car is a beast!! I just flew back from Germany.

We really were not trying to break the record, we were testing the Mark Levinson system....

LMFAO!!!
12-30-2007, 02:14 PM
OneSlow5pt0

on that list its not fair...........the zonda should get to run in dry condtions....Zonda is easy my fav supecar
12-30-2007, 02:16 PM
Crazy Asian

I wanted the Gremlin to run. Why they goto be so racist.
12-30-2007, 02:17 PM
OneSlow5pt0

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crazy Asian

I wanted the Gremlin to run. Why they goto be so racist.

how bout the ultimate driving machine that is the Pacer
12-30-2007, 02:18 PM
Thighs

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaimecbr900

Good grief, give it up on the stupid Radical already.

It might be "street legal" in some states, just like a lot of retarded stuff is allowed in some states and not others. Are there "RADICAL" dealerships? What kind of annual production and sales numbers do they have? Does it pass emmissions? Does it have the proper safety equipment? Well, if the "no's" outnumber the "yes" then there's your answer. :rolleyes:

Didn't the Koenigg have some issues a few years ago qualifying for some records because of productions numbers?

it passes emissions if you put the proper emissions equipment on it, just like any other car. and of course it has the proper safety ****, you think they would let somebody RACE it if it wasnt safe enough for street driving? dont think so.

as far as production/sales numbers go, its a small number but its enough to be a production car.

get off your high horse about the new lex being the fastest production car on the ring. ITS NOT.
12-30-2007, 02:19 PM
1SICKLEX

Quote:

Originally Posted by HypnoToad

how bout the ultimate driving machine that is the Pacer

http://www.partaj.cz/imgs/ameriky/AM...c_06_pacer.jpg

FTW!!!!
12-30-2007, 02:20 PM
Thighs

dude that thing will pwn a f1 car on the ring...
12-30-2007, 02:21 PM
1SICKLEX

Quote:

Originally Posted by jesse4846

it passes emissions if you put the proper emissions equipment on it, just like any other car. and of course it has the proper safety ****, you think they would let somebody RACE it if it wasnt safe enough for street driving? dont think so.

as far as production/sales numbers go, its a small number but its enough to be a production car.

get off your high horse about the new lex being the fastest production car on the ring. ITS NOT.

Again, WE did not say it, the EXPERTS are. NOT US. So get MAD at THEM. Clearly you know MORE than them.

How can you SERIOUSLY compare these 2 cars? One is a real car, the other a damn go-kart with a car engine.
Listen to this V-10!!! Like a damn F1 car!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShrOWznZbns
12-30-2007, 02:23 PM
Thighs

im not the one who made the rules lol. the radical s STILL a street-legal production car.

and im not mad?
12-30-2007, 02:23 PM
1SICKLEX

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gL0Mi...eature=related

In translation, the guy says "Got damn that sounds incredible, that 1SICKLEX dude can drive"
12-30-2007, 02:24 PM
Thighs

lolol
12-30-2007, 02:32 PM
Jaimecbr900

Quote:

Originally Posted by jesse4846

it passes emissions if you put the proper emissions equipment on it, just like any other car. and of course it has the proper safety ****, you think they would let somebody RACE it if it wasnt safe enough for street driving? dont think so.

as far as production/sales numbers go, its a small number but its enough to be a production car.

get off your high horse about the new lex being the fastest production car on the ring. ITS NOT.

I'm not on any high horse. I'm just tired of hearing the same thing over and over and over and over again. Get some new material for God's sake. We got it. YOU would have sex right up the the Radical's tailpipe, we got it. It would seem the only one on any horse is you with your Radical OCD. Give it a rest.

Did the LFA beat the GTR's time? Yes or no? THAT was what the thread was about, was it not? Did the Lexus beat the GTR or not? It did. So why do ying yangs like you have to come in splitting hairs about crap that has nothing to do with that? If that's riding a high horse, then screw it....giddy up then. :rolleyes:
12-30-2007, 02:39 PM
GGPIS3

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1SICKLEX

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gL0Mi...eature=related

In translation, the guy says "Got damn that sounds incredible, that 1SICKLEX dude can drive"

lol
12-30-2007, 02:42 PM
GGPIS3

Quote:

Originally Posted by jesse4846

im not the one who made the rules lol. the radical s STILL a street-legal production car.

and im not mad?

is it street-legal in the US? real question

if its not, then it really doesn't matter to me.
12-30-2007, 02:43 PM
JITB

i just cant accept the LFA as a supercar, i think its the lexus name...lol when i hear that i think of Luxury not performance. I also am irritated how the word "supra" was in every video on youtube with the lfa!
12-30-2007, 02:45 PM
GGPIS3

^^ i've heard rumors that the new supra will be loosely based off the LFA..
12-30-2007, 02:50 PM
JITB

Quote:

Originally Posted by GGPIS3

^^ i've heard rumors that the new supra will be loosely based off the LFA..

so it will be like the sc300 was? supra under toyota, LFa under lexus?

i think if they do and they decide to use a different motor, it will be alot smaller...
12-30-2007, 02:53 PM
Thighs

Quote:

Originally Posted by GGPIS3

is it street-legal in the US? real question

if its not, then it really doesn't matter to me.

it is...
12-30-2007, 03:01 PM
OneSlow5pt0

Quote:

Originally Posted by GGPIS3

^^ i've heard rumors that the new supra will be loosely based off the LFA..

not really......the aka supra will be a hybrid car

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