tired of hitting red lights and hoping that there no camers?

[Deke]

the biggest thing is they dont give a **** about preventing people from running red lights. Its just another income source. They realize people are going to do it so this way they can catch more people doing it and get more money. Just like speeding. When I went to court last week in douglasville they told people if they werent a defendant they had to leave because they couldnt fit all the people with tickets into the courtroom. It's all about the money

Haha, I just attribute to lot's of dumbasses with cars in the city of Atlanta. Granted, speed limits piss me off sometimes, but for the US, they are a necessary evil. And this whole red light camera thing, you simply shouldn't be running red lights. Nothing pisses me off more then when I have to wait to cross an intersection because some jackass decides he's going to floor it instead of slow down, thus completely running the light.

[Nemesis]

The only time I come even close to doing it, is once Ive passed that "point of no return" where slamming your brakes will put you right in the middle of the intersection.

[civic95]

Bottomline? Don't run red lights and you won't have anything to worry about.

X2

[Echonova]

What I do, is plan out my route for the day the night before. Then when I find an intersection with cameras, I shoot them out. That way, the next day I can run all the red lights I want with being scared of the cameras.

[quickdodge®]

Its just another income source. They realize people are going to do it so this way they can catch more people doing it and get more money. Just like speeding. When I went to court last week in douglasville they told people if they werent a defendant they had to leave because they couldnt fit all the people with tickets into the courtroom. It's all about the money

Wanna know a little secret about how you can beat the system?

QUIT DRIVING LIKE A GODDAMN DUMBASS!!!

Holy mother****ing **** how could something so ****ing simple be unknown to mass society? Plan on stopping for red lights in the future. Plan on driving the speed limit in the future. That can be your way of "sticking it to the man." **** that it may save a life or two. Goddamn idiots, man. Later, QD.

[EssAreTwenTee]

Wanna know a little secret about how you can beat the system?

QUIT DRIVING LIKE A GODDAMN DUMBASS!!!

Holy mother****ing **** how could something so ****ing simple be unknown to mass society? Plan on stopping for red lights in the future. Plan on driving the speed limit in the future. That can be your way of "sticking it to the man." **** that it may save a life or two. Goddamn idiots, man. Later, QD.

wow thank you for your infinite knowledge. I have 0 points on my license. I do not speed nor do I run red lights. But that is besides the point I was making. To believe that the reasoning behind traffic enforcement is for our better good or "to save a life or two" is moronic. Stupid people are going to kill themselves and others regardless of whether it is behind the wheel of a 3000lb piece of metal or shooting up some place. Local governments realize that. But by enforcing traffic laws vehemently they can bring in alot of income without public outcry that arises from taxation. Maybe I shouldve used large font and caps so you'd understand

[Deke]

wow thank you for your infinite knowledge. I have 0 points on my license. I do not speed nor do I run red lights. But that is besides the point I was making. To believe that the reasoning behind traffic enforcement is for our better good or "to save a life or two" is moronic. Stupid people are going to kill themselves and others regardless of whether it is behind the wheel of a 3000lb piece of metal or shooting up some place. Local governments realize that. But by enforcing traffic laws vehemently they can bring in alot of income without public outcry that arises from taxation. Maybe I shouldve used large font and caps so you'd understand

I'm going to have to continue to disagree on this. Yes, income is one reason, but if you don't think it's also for safety, then you sir are moronic. Sure, people still break the law, but you better believe that there would be a lot more people speeding and running red lights if it wasn't so strictly enforced, hence resulting in many more accidents and deaths. I'm glad that these laws are in place so driving in Atlanta wouldn't require an armored vehicle with a snow plow.

[KPowerEP3]

I'm going to have to continue to disagree on this. Yes, income is one reason, but if you don't think it's also for safety, then you sir are moronic. Sure, people still break the law, but you better believe that there would be a lot more people speeding and running red lights if it wasn't so strictly enforced, hence resulting in many more accidents and deaths. I'm glad that these laws are in place so driving in Atlanta wouldn't require an armored vehicle with a snow plow.

it pretty much does already. I can honestly say it makes my day to see someone driving like an ass get blue lighted.

[EssAreTwenTee]

I'm going to have to continue to disagree on this. Yes, income is one reason, but if you don't think it's also for safety, then you sir are moronic. Sure, people still break the law, but you better believe that there would be a lot more people speeding and running red lights if it wasn't so strictly enforced, hence resulting in many more accidents and deaths. I'm glad that these laws are in place so driving in Atlanta wouldn't require an armored vehicle with a snow plow.

They've been enforcing it for how long now? And have people stopped speeding, running red lights, etc... Obviously it can't be working if courtrooms are filling to the brink every month with violators. And generally if something isnt working you change it. When I lived in Pa it was rare to see a speed trap or someone pulled over, and certainly not a camera, yet somehow they managed to not have completely vehicular anarchy. It may have changed but last i knew only state cops were even allowed to use radar/laser up there.

[quickdodge®]

wow thank you for your infinite knowledge.

Jealousy gets you nowhere in my book.

I have 0 points on my license. I do not speed nor do I run red lights.

I'm not DMV or an insurance agent so I don't give a **** about your MVR.

To believe that the reasoning behind traffic enforcement is for our better good or "to save a life or two" is moronic.

And to believe your rhetoric would be even more moronic.

Stupid people are going to kill themselves and others regardless of whether it is behind the wheel of a 3000lb piece of metal or shooting up some place.

Congrats on making sense out of all that other crap you opted to post.

Maybe I shouldve used large font and caps so you'd understand

Trust me, I understood. It may not be what you were "attempting" to convey, but I understood something, alright. Later, QD.

[quickdodge®]

I can honestly say it makes my day to see someone driving like an ass get blue lighted.

Same here. I get a good feeling when some dumbass gets pulled over. Later, QD.

[EssAreTwenTee]

Jealousy gets you nowhere in my book.



I'm not DMV or an insurance agent so I don't give a **** about your MVR.



And to believe your rhetoric would be even more moronic.



Congrats on making sense out of all that other crap you opted to post.



Trust me, I understood. It may not be what you were "attempting" to convey, but I understood something, alright. Later, QD.

rhetoric would imply that I have an agenda. In which I don't
Now maybe If I were to sit on a forum trying to get people to respect me since I apparently dont get respect in the real world I might have an agenda.

[quickdodge®]

They've been enforcing it for how long now? And have people stopped speeding, running red lights, etc... Obviously it can't be working

Obviously you can't understand logic. No one on here has said anything about speeding/traffic violations coming to a halt. The actual point is(yes someone else made a point) that if there were NO policing the roadways, that there would be a huge increase in the aftermaths of dangerous driving. It's really not hard if you really think about and stop going down every avenue trying to make me look wrong or stupid. Later, QD.

[quickdodge®]

Now maybe If I were to sit on a forum trying to get people to respect me since I apparently dont get respect in the real world I might have an agenda.

Last resort move. This is what people post to me when they know they've been shown the err of their ways. Later, QD.

[jaystar]

Dont run read lights end of story. until u kill some1 then u will be happy huh

[Deke]

Obviously you can't understand logic. No one on here has said anything about speeding/traffic violations coming to a halt. The actual point is(yes someone else made a point) that if there were NO policing the roadways, that there would be a huge increase in the aftermaths of dangerous driving. It's really not hard if you really think about and stop going down every avenue trying to make me look wrong or stupid. Later, QD.

Thank you sir.

[SL65AMG]

learn to use the ****ing brakes and not drive like an idiot. Red means stop.

i think the problem is the yellows..... its rare that someone blatantly runs and already red light but people jumping the yellows is more of a problem..... do the cameras work instantly after the lights turn red or is there some lag time????

[ubers2k]

i think the problem is the yellows..... its rare that someone blatantly runs and already red light but people jumping the yellows is more of a problem..... do the cameras work instantly after the lights turn red or is there some lag time????

no lag time at all. I've actually watched, at night, the cameras flash as the picture is taken. It happens maybe 1 second after the light changes.

[SicStang03]

I got out of one!!!

But it is a secret

[Psycho]

I am tired of being scared of those f****ing traffic light cameras. It is already bad enough watching out for cops when speeding, now u got to watch out for cameras.wtf I got too many friends and family that got tickets in their mail and there is no way to fight it. cuz they got u on camera lol.

The answer to all your problems is here:
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[Doppelgänger]

Just showing my appreciation to the OP

[Jaimecbr900]

They've been enforcing it for how long now? And have people stopped speeding, running red lights, etc...

Wow, you have got you some logic there my friend. So in your little world, if something doesn't work right away you throw it away? Why'd you keep your brain then?

Obviously it can't be working if courtrooms are filling to the brink every month with violators.

There's that magical logic again. You cup is always half-empty, isn't it?

Why don't you look at the court rooms filling up as a sign that POLICE ARE doing their job correctly? Ever thought of that possibility? Funny how Police get stereotyped as lazy donut eating good for nothings, yet when they DO their job......people like YOU don't like it. Isn't America great?

And generally if something isnt working you change it.

It's funny how the naysayers have selective reasoning powers.

What part of, "I see it EVERY DAY and it WORKS..." didn't you understand. I've been driving by the same exact intersection(s) for almost 7 yrs now. I drove thru there when there were NO cameras and drove thru there just this morning when there ARE cameras. I see, with my own two eyes, that there is a HUGE difference in how drivers approach that SAME EXACT intersection that BEFORE the cameras were installed people used to run at will. Many, many people have been seriously injured and killed AT THAT INTERSECTION before. Matter of fact, I've personally gotten out to aid on 2 different occassions after nasty wrecks RIGHT THERE. So for someone with your logic skills to ASSume things aren't "working" is laughable at best. They work. Problem is that whiners don't like it when you hold their feet to the fire for THEIR mistakes. It's not rocket science. Don't run the light, don't get a ticket. It's not any more difficult than that.

When I lived in Pa it was rare to see a speed trap or someone pulled over, and certainly not a camera, yet somehow they managed to not have completely vehicular anarchy. It may have changed but last i knew only state cops were even allowed to use radar/laser up there.

Oh yeah, because PA or any part of the Northeast for that matter is the mecca for courteous and proper driving techniques. Whatever.

My uncle has lived in PA for the last 30+ yrs. He drives down to visit us atleast twice a year. Almost 20 hours in his car to get here. Ask HIM what he thinks about GA drivers vs PA drivers. Whatever. Your logic failed miserably my friend. Miserably.

[yudalicious]

I got a red light ticket in the mail once. Now I almost never run yellows. Seems to work for me.

[David88vert]

Here is the problem with red light cameras - they do not ticket the person driving the car - they ticket the registered owner. Basically, here in GA, the camera takes a picture of the tag, and they send the ticket to the person who owns the car - not who was actually driving. The problem with this approach is that the enforcement is not being made upon the person who broke the law.

Of course, with any law there are provisions of exclusivity. Since there is no officer to verify that you were the driver, you only have to claim that you lent the car out, and you were not the driver. The judge of course will ask who the driver was, and of course you would state that you lend your car out a lot and it could have been any of several people. Because the vehicle is not a commercial vehicle, you do not have to legally keep a log book, and would not know. Based upon the current law, the charges should be thrown out.
Here's the catch though: The ticket is a non-moving violation, and in most municipalities, it is only around $70. It will cost you more to take off from work to fight it, than to just pay it. I could have beat it when my wife got one in Lilburn (it got sent to me), but I would have lost money that day.
http://law.onecle.com/georgia/40/index.html

[Jaimecbr900]

Here is the problem with red light cameras - they do not ticket the person driving the car - they ticket the registered owner. Basically, here in GA, the camera takes a picture of the tag, and they send the ticket to the person who owns the car - not who was actually driving. The problem with this approach is that the enforcement is not being made upon the person who broke the law.

Of course, with any law there are provisions of exclusivity. Since there is no officer to verify that you were the driver, you only have to claim that you lent the car out, and you were not the driver. The judge of course will ask who the driver was, and of course you would state that you lend your car out a lot and it could have been any of several people. Because the vehicle is not a commercial vehicle, you do not have to legally keep a log book, and would not know. Based upon the current law, the charges should be thrown out.
Here's the catch though: The ticket is a non-moving violation, and in most municipalities, it is only around $70. It will cost you more to take off from work to fight it, than to just pay it. I could have beat it when my wife got one in Lilburn (it got sent to me), but I would have lost money that day.
http://law.onecle.com/georgia/40/index.html

That's all fine and good, except for one thing: You either did run the light or you didn't. If you did and just use a loop hole to get out of it, it doesn't say anything about the law being faulty....only you being at fault and getting away with it. If you really didn't do it, then just name who did and let them get the ticket. After all, like you said, it's not even a point deducting violation and relatively inexpensive.

[ShadetreeSHOguy]

Yeah, this redlight camera bullsh!t has gotten a few people i work with in trouble. I work for a company that has fleet vehicles that we take home. Well, of couse the registered owner of the truck is our office and the damned ticket gets mailed to the office. It's hell trying to find out who the hell was driving the truck . BTW guys, heads up, Sandy Plains rd, by the August of next year, will have redlight cameras at EVERY ****ING INTERSECTION! I know this cause the company that is puting in the fiber optic line is the one that hit the gas main tuesday that closed the ****ing road down.

[quickdodge®]

Yeah, this redlight camera bullsh!t has gotten a few people i work with in trouble. I work for a company that has fleet vehicles that we take home. Well, of couse the registered owner of the truck is our office and the damned ticket gets mailed to the office. It's hell trying to find out who the hell was driving the truck . BTW guys, heads up, Sandy Plains rd, by the August of next year, will have redlight cameras at EVERY ****ING INTERSECTION! I know this cause the company that is puting in the fiber optic line is the one that hit the gas main tuesday that closed the ****ing road down.

If you'd tell your ****ing "fleet" to learn how to ****ing drive, you wouldn't have any problems with this. Would you? How come common sense isn't so common in some people? Later, QD.