another what if....

[Reaper]

first off shouldn't this be in the lifestyle section? and second, I agree with SL65AMG, this country's image will be a joke. After traveling abroad, MOST countries despise the US because we are a "violent, arrogant, cocky nation" and people hate that in a sense we police the world. Now granted I believe that we are doing some good in IRAQ, but that's because I have several family members over there and they see the good and bad in what they are doing. I personally don't believe 95% of the **** that CNN or FOX has to say simply because everything is mis-represented or changed so it looks good or bad upon something or someone. Usually, our President. Don't get me wrong, I'm not the biggest fan of Bush, but I also think we've had worse Presidents. Hilary would be a detriment to this country. I do not know much about Obama so I'm not going to make up some BS about the guy or knock on him because of his race or ethnicity. I am going to vote, but I'm just not sure who I'm going to vote for yet. But it sure as hell won't be Hilary.

[tony]

There are (as of 2005) 23,390,506 Black Americans. How many of those do you know?
There are (as of 2005) alot more White Americans. 80.2% of the pupulation to be exact. I didn't have time to do the math on other ethnic groups.
Female population (as of 2005) 50.7%.
http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/00000.html

*of course, these figures are not correct i'm sure, it IS the government we are talking about.*

That is one of the main reasons Obama won't be elected. Add in the fact that he's inexperienced, of middle eastern decent at quite possibly the WORST time for a middle eastern to be running for office and that he is un-american (or perceived to be by not pledging to the flag and you have failure for Obama.

Hillary is the danger. If women banded together, they could elect a woman president. But she is marred by her husbands past pokings and lies so she is on unstable ground. The problem is that those are the top dogs in a crappy election. They are the best their party could put together. Sad.

As I stated before Barack Obama is American, his mother is white and his father is Kenyan so I don't see where you're getting the middle eastern thing.

Second, by your numbers and logic Obama has a huge dependency on the black vote, that is confusing since Obama leads the polls at 31% of the voter support in the pivotal state of Iowa. Oh yeah, Iowa's demographic is 95% white with blacks making up not even 3% of the population.

[tony]

I have a couple of things to present on Obama's "un-american" actions. First the video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxfvxKBXRM4

His reaction:

“My grandfather taught me how to say the Pledge of Allegiance when I was 2,” Obama said, his annoyance obvious. “During the Pledge of Allegiance you put your hand over your heart. During the national anthem you sing.”

On the Lapel Pin:

“Somebody noticed I wasn’t wearing a flag lapel pin and I told folks, well you know what? I haven’t probably worn that pin in a very long time. I wore it right after 9/11. But after a while, you start noticing people wearing a lapel pin, but not acting very patriotic. Not voting to provide veterans with resources that they need. Not voting to make sure that disability payments were coming out on time.

“My attitude is that I’m less concerned about what you’re wearing on your lapel than what’s in your heart. And you show your patriotism by how you treat your fellow Americans, especially those who served. You show your patriotism by being true to our values and our ideals and that’s what we have to lead with is our values and our ideals.”

I don't agree with some of his policies but c'mon now if you're going to criticize the guy at least use facts rather than these made up stories.

[bu villain]

It's interesting how some people will talk about how much they love this country and in the same breath state some blatently false fact that shows how ignorant they are of a candidate who is running for the presidency. If you consider yourself a patriot or even just someone who is mildly concerned for the direction our nation is taking, please do some real in-depth research on ALL the candidates before making up your mind.

[FayCoSi]

this coming november.... when you vote for your new president. who you are really going to be voting for is the vice president. because as soon as a black guy, or a woman becomes president.... backwoods billy is gonna come running and say "fuk this sh*t! i'll kill that mother Fuker!!!"... and backwoods billy will assassanate the new reigning president. then the secret service will pump him full of lead. and the new pres will be the vice pres. the end

so america, if you don't want to kill anybody, vote for whitey.



loll sorry but it's the truth, and the truth must be heard.

[SL65AMG]

Me personally wouldn't mind seeing Obama or Hillary as president. Why, because it's time for a change. Plus, this is the perfect time for a radical change since many people feel Bush been f'n up for two terms. Bad part about that is there are some many closed minded people in society today. Rather than vote for best (or least flawed) person, they are going to vote based on raced or gender. Seriously, I wonder who would win if the identity of each candidate was hidden.

i think if it was just based on the persons political views, neither of them would have a chance. hillary cant keep her story straight from one debate to another. people only like her because she wants to "do so much for the people". ***** doesnt give a damn if you have healthcare or not, she doesnt give a damn if you have a house or if you live in a box outside on the streets, she only says she does so that these sheeple will follow her lead and vote her sorry ass into office. she doesnt care about you, she just wants power.....

power and money rule this country now, you can be made to shut up if someone wants you to be. if you speak out against the government, which its your right to do so, you will disappear. if you try to vote a certain person out of office, you and your followers/like minded people will be ****ed over in some way.

[Bballjamal]

a lil late for that. America is already one of the biggest laughing stocks out there already..most here are just too arrogant to admit it.. Your views of this nation change when you've been outside it. Face not screw with? Hell, a good percentage of the population don't even take our current leader seriously.

Best post in here.......

And this post sb]hows an example as to the reason why we keep getting retarded presidents. Peoples voting opinion is based on simpleton and ignorant thought. Obama I think is a good runner up to non other than Ron Paul. I've done some research and talked to a few friends about it and what the the guy's about and I like

[SL65AMG]

Best post in here.......

And this post sb]hows an example as to the reason why we keep getting retarded presidents. Peoples voting opinion is based on simpleton and ignorant thought. Obama I think is a good runner up to non other than Ron Paul. I've done some research and talked to a few friends about it and what the the guy's about and I like

ron paul is the best candidate that we have had since i can remember. guy is amazing. if you have never heard of him or if you havent see any of his videos the you need to to go youtube or google videos and search "Ron Paul"..... i think you will find that he actually has a clue and wants things to be how they are supposed to be.


search for the vids and find out for yourself what hes all about. great guy


and bball, + reps for you

for whatever reason i cant
You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Bballjamal again.

[tony]

There are (as of 2005) 23,390,506 Black Americans. How many of those do you know?
There are (as of 2005) alot more White Americans. 80.2% of the pupulation to be exact. I didn't have time to do the math on other ethnic groups.
Female population (as of 2005) 50.7%.
http://quickfacts.census.gov/qfd/states/00000.html

*of course, these figures are not correct i'm sure, it IS the government we are talking about.*

That is one of the main reasons Obama won't be elected. Add in the fact that he's inexperienced, of middle eastern decent at quite possibly the WORST time for a middle eastern to be running for office and that he is un-american (or perceived to be by not pledging to the flag and you have failure for Obama.

Hillary is the danger. If women banded together, they could elect a woman president. But she is marred by her husbands past pokings and lies so she is on unstable ground. The problem is that those are the top dogs in a crappy election. They are the best their party could put together. Sad.

Quoted for stupidity, Barack Obama just won 37% of the democratic vote in Iowa which is a state that is 95% WHITE. If he wins in New Hampshire say hello to what may be the next President..

[ahmonrah]

the first few comments in here are so stupid i'm barely willing to comment further......i'll wait til i get to work.

[ueyedgr8tness]

After looking in this thread all i c is a bunch of closed and narrow minded aholes that look at race in making there decission on the next president.I have to say thats the problem with ppl now day when voting they dont do there own research.so u freaking loosers stop bringing obama race in it when u didn't eve no he was mixed lol!!


on another subject not all bk ppl think u whites owe us something so don't even go there with that bs.there is just as many white trash assholes s there is blk so go fu*8 yourself with that shi*.

[ueyedgr8tness]

this coming november.... when you vote for your new president. who you are really going to be voting for is the vice president. because as soon as a black guy, or a woman becomes president.... backwoods billy is gonna come running and say "fuk this sh*t! i'll kill that mother Fuker!!!"... and backwoods billy will assassanate the new reigning president. then the secret service will pump him full of lead. and the new pres will be the vice pres. the end

so america, if you don't want to kill anybody, vote for whitey.



loll sorry but it's the truth, and the truth must be heard.

backwoods billy is to stupid to vote for the right reason the he should kill his self instead of ruining our nation just like the gang bangin thugs

[Magnus213]

the first few comments in here are so stupid i'm barely willing to comment further......i'll wait til i get to work.

Yeah... reading this again is pretty ridiculous. Glad to see that I objected to it the first time around.

[HachiDori]

Moves to mexico. *closes the door*

[RISKYB]

if he cant pledge to our flag what possible good can he be to us, he will just open the doors to other countries that he does pledge to and no more america

[1000cckiller]

if he cant pledge to our flag what possible good can he be to us, he will just open the doors to other countries that he does pledge to and no more america

x2

[tony]

if he cant pledge to our flag what possible good can he be to us, he will just open the doors to other countries that he does pledge to and no more america

Did you even read the thread? He pledges to the flag.. hands at his side during the national anthem.

[1000cckiller]

Did you even read the thread? He pledges to the flag.. hands at his side during the national anthem.

He should do both Tony, because he has to lead by example. Our country has fell to sh!t since the founding fathers, even though they were some rednecks they held this country together.

[Alan®]

Wow this thread has some pretty dumb posts in it.

The fact that he is black,muslim, and doesnt wear a stupid lapel is not what bothers me. What does bother me is the fact that in all his town halls and debates and stuff he talks about change yet barely mentions how he will bring it about and when he does it sounds worse than hillary's responses. Hillary is going to **** up health care and the economy more than it already is.

Edit***raised muslim is christian.

[tony]

Wow this thread has some pretty dumb posts in it.

The fact that he is black,muslim, and doesnt wear a stupid lapel is not what bothers me. What does bother me is the fact that in all his town halls and debates and stuff he talks about change yet barely mentions how he will bring it about and when he does it sounds worse than hillary's responses. Hillary is going to **** up health care and the economy more than it already is.

Edit***raised muslim is christian.

How many instances of change do you need? Or better yet, have you been living in a cave? Who cares what religion he was born into? If that decides who you vote for then you are the epitome of the idiots who vote because of race.. or gender.. or some other dumb reason and not the policy.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=yqoFwZUp5vc

http://youtube.com/watch?v=-iVAPH_EcmQ

[Alan®]

How many instances of change do you need? Or better yet, have you been living in a cave? Who cares what religion he was born into? If that decides who you vote for then you are the epitome of the idiots who vote because of race.. or gender.. or some other dumb reason and not the policy.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=yqoFwZUp5vc

http://youtube.com/watch?v=-iVAPH_EcmQ

I said that it his race or relgion(past or preset) didn't bother me. I simply don't agree with his policies. Sorry if that makes me an idiot

[tony]

You stated the religion he was born into like it mattered.. that makes you an idiot. JFK had the same problem because he was catholic, Mitt Romney gets the crap because he is mormon and Huckabee catches flack for being a devout christian. At the end of the day who really cares? As long as they do right by the people and do their job it doesnt matter.

[1000cckiller]

How many instances of change do you need? Or better yet, have you been living in a cave? Who cares what religion he was born into? If that decides who you vote for then you are the epitome of the idiots who vote because of race.. or gender.. or some other dumb reason and not the policy.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=yqoFwZUp5vc

http://youtube.com/watch?v=-iVAPH_EcmQ

True, because if policy is messed up so will be the country. I don't care about his religion, I care about how policies will effect us in the long run. No matter who goes in office, they are going to have tough times fixing what is already fawked up. Also don't count on it being fixed in the first four years.

[1000cckiller]

You stated the religion he was born into like it mattered.. that makes you an idiot. JFK had the same problem because he was catholic, Mitt Romney gets the crap because he is mormon and Huckabee catches flack for being a devout christian. At the end of the day who really cares? As long as they do right by the people and do their job it doesnt matter.

Agreed, but wasn't our country founded on religion also, now people are offended by it.

[Alan®]

The fact that he is black,muslim, and doesnt wear a stupid lapel is not what bothers me.

just to reiterate

[Alan®]

JFK had the same problem because he was catholic, Mitt Romney gets the crap because he is mormon and Huckabee catches flack for being a devout christian. At the end of the day who really cares? As long as they do right by the people and do their job it doesnt matter.

QFT

[1000cckiller]

QFT

You QFT he was talking about you.lolz

[Alan®]

You QFT he was talking about you.lolz

whoops lol I quoted the wrong part.lol.selfownage ftl

[Alan®]

fixed lol

[1000cckiller]

fixed lol

lolz

[1000cckiller]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to redGT again.

[Alan®]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to redGT again.

I hit you with some

[1000cckiller]

I hit you with some

I will hit ya on my next go round.

[Alan®]

I will hit ya on my next go round.

preciate it man

[1000cckiller]

preciate it man

welcome

[tony]

Point being, someone wants to make this one country undivided.. deal with the issues we have before us and not play the political game. Call it hype or not but this man has already inspired those to do more than they ever have before as it pertains to the election process.. that cannot be measured or duplicated.

[tony]

And apology owed to RedGT, i jumped the gun without fully understanding your statement.. even though it was irrelevant

[1000cckiller]

And apology owed to RedGT, i jumped the gun without fully understanding your statement.. even though it was irrelevant

Tony read the link I posted in your thread.

[Alan®]

And apology owed to RedGT, i jumped the gun without fully understanding your statement.. even though it was irrelevant

its cool man it happens