Lamborghini Murcielago Replica on ebay

[BobbyFresco]

The Ultima GTR in my eyes is NOT a replica, it is a kit car. There is a difference between a kit car and a replica. The GTM KIND OF looks like a GT40 at different angles, but nobody is gonna be like "omg look a GT40." to realize it isn't. A KIT car is a cool thing, to build your own reliable car, especially if it doesnt LOOK like something it's not. Building a replica to ME is just stupid. So are Fiero kit cars that have Ferrari kits cool? lol. I know the upkeep of exotics having worked on them for a summer, but if you bought it in the first place, you can easily keep it running. The guys who buy a real exotic and never drive it are in debt...

I see the point of having a reliable replica, but in the end, it's fake, does not have the exotic magic a real one does or the advanced engineering, it just kind of LOOKS like it, and if tricking people is all that matters, I can probably trick someone with this Aston Martin replica for my Miata:

Actually, you couldn't.
The Miata is nowhere the size of an Aston Martin and you picked to wrong example to support your argument. This replica is definitely bogus.

The two Lambo's that are depicted in this thread are pretty close when it comes to authenticity, give or take a few minor details.

[BobbyFresco]

and furthermore, Aside from the fact that the replica's do not come from Italy, what is really the diff between the real and the fake.


I say maybe quality but at the end of the day, the most complex part of the build is the motor.

The Murcielago replica body I'm sure was molded from an original.
I'm sure that Lamborghini replicates the body of each car that they build from an original mold.

I could be wrong about this but since Lambos are not really mass produced like say Camry's and they are handbuilt(again, I could be wrong), the replicas are right on par.



So at the end of the day, you are paying a few hundred thousand dollars for an "exotic" which is to say that you're paying an insane amount of money simply because of the name and where it was built.

[Elbow]

If you read what I said you would know I was saying it looked fake, the Lambos posted look fake, you can tell.

[Elbow]

I highly doubt the replicas have the same suspension and chassis technology, and I would much rather have a screaming V12 then a American V8. It's all gonna come down to personal preference.

[BobbyFresco]

If you read what I said you would know I was saying it looked fake, the Lambos posted look fake, you can tell.

I have to disagree with you.
I've been around quite a few Lambos, be it Murcielago, Gallardo, or Diablo VT, and these replicas pictured come as close as one can get, aesthetically.

[BobbyFresco]

I highly doubt the replicas have the same suspension and chassis technology, and I would much rather have a screaming V12 then a American V8. It's all gonna come down to personal preference.

I agree.
If I had the money, of course I would buy the real thing. No doubt, and I don't think anyone here is debating that issue.

The point that I stand by is that there's nothing wrong with a replica, more so when the build is executed well.....If all you have is 60k and you'd rather build a car than to buy a ready made, manufactured alternative, I don't see the harm.

You can't tell me that unless you inspected the Murcielago rep that posted initially upclose, you'd automatically know it wasn't real.

[Elbow]

I can easily tell a difference, being around exotics from way back in the day, it's not that hard. And right, if I had say 60k to buy a car (exotic) I would like to BUILD my car, but not make it a replica. I would like an Ultima or something, not a Lambo fake.

[Glides]

The Ultima GTR in my eyes is NOT a replica, it is a kit car. There is a difference between a kit car and a replica. The GTM KIND OF looks like a GT40 at different angles, but nobody is gonna be like "omg look a GT40." to realize it isn't. A KIT car is a cool thing, to build your own reliable car, especially if it doesnt LOOK like something it's not. Building a replica to ME is just stupid. So are Fiero kit cars that have Ferrari kits cool? lol. I know the upkeep of exotics having worked on them for a summer, but if you bought it in the first place, you can easily keep it running. The guys who buy a real exotic and never drive it are in debt...

I see the point of having a reliable replica, but in the end, it's fake, does not have the exotic magic a real one does or the advanced engineering, it just kind of LOOKS like it, and if tricking people is all that matters, I can probably trick someone with this Aston Martin replica for my Miata:

Sorry man. You are quite wrong. Most guys that have the money to buy those cars, don't drive them because they are investments. Very few guys who own them take them out and work them the way they were designed to be driven. Most people get them, put them in their garages and show them off, then sell them when they can turn a profit and get something else. Or they are collectors that collect them, not drive them. The average exotic car buyer doesn't use them.

A Replica IS a kit car. Same exact thing. No difference. They are both vehicles assembled by the purchaser or a shop to which the purchaser takes the vehicle. They are both listed in the same publications. They may both use a chassis from another car, or they may use a full tube chassis. Correct stretch on a Fiero chassis is 97 inches. Some kits do that, some don't. But either way, a tube chassis car is a tube chassis car. You of all people should know the performance difference. Whether it looks like something else or looks like it's own.

So let's see.








All replica's. Does that somehow not make them desirable? Owned by a bunch of cheap bastards who dreamed of having the real thing but couldn't afford it?

Kit cars are all about what you make of them. If they are cheap to start with, they are cheap coming out. If you take your time, build the right chassis, map it out and sink some cash into it, they come out great.

[Elbow]

Ok, I know a LOTTTT of exotic car owners who drive their cars all the time. A local old man has a 550 Ferrari he takes to the grocery store, and kills it. He used to bring it into a detail shop I worked at so we could buff his scratches out from his track day abuse. A guy used to bring in a daily driven built 500+whp Porsche, etc. There used to be a Lambo around town I saw ALLLL the time that was beat to hell. Yes it was real there is a fake around Athens somewhere with a VW motor in it.

A replica IS a kit car, but I still just could never see myself building a fake car that isnt as good as the real one. I could see building something like a GTM or Ultima, because it doesnt look like a fake.

Some guys may keep the cars in garages, some dont. Just like some guys keep Civics in garages and never drive them because they are their "babies." I have seen a Enzo going down the interstate, a MC12 going through DOWNTOWN ATLANTA, a CGT on a back road, etc. They get around

[speedminded]

Look up the NAERC Lamborghini Diablo Replica.

They did that up so well, and it uses the BMW 850's V12 engine. They even make a clip for the engine bay that makes it look like the Lambo's V12.

They carry lots of parts that look very Lamborghini-legit. They even make full tube chassis for replicas.

I can't find where they posted photos of the replica they made, but seriously...you wouldn't be able to tell. They make kits compatible with Fiero engines, the engine from the Grand Prix, GM's LS series, and the BMW V12.

http://www.lambostuff.com/xq/asp/Pag...hini-parts.htm

Everything down to the 12 cylinder distributor cap


Faux Intake manifold:


Molded plastic "valve cover"


Fake fuel injectors:


Throttle body:


Don't forget the Key!

[Glides]

Ok, I know a LOTTTT of exotic car owners who drive their cars all the time. A local old man has a 550 Ferrari he takes to the grocery store, and kills it. He used to bring it into a detail shop I worked at so we could buff his scratches out from his track day abuse. A guy used to bring in a daily driven built 500+whp Porsche, etc. There used to be a Lambo around town I saw ALLLL the time that was beat to hell. Yes it was real there is a fake around Athens somewhere with a VW motor in it.

A replica IS a kit car, but I still just could never see myself building a fake car that isnt as good as the real one. I could see building something like a GTM or Ultima, because it doesnt look like a fake.

Some guys may keep the cars in garages, some dont. Just like some guys keep Civics in garages and never drive them because they are their "babies." I have seen a Enzo going down the interstate, a MC12 going through DOWNTOWN ATLANTA, a CGT on a back road, etc. They get around

Ok, you have seen one Enzo going through town. How many Enzos were produced? The Lambo in town is Mark Vincents. Red Countach. He rarely drives it. I've seen him drive it all of 2 times. There is also an original GT40 Lemans car in town as well, did you know that? Guy paid 1 million bucks for it. It's supposedly the last Lemans GT40 that is street driven or something. I've seen him drive it all of zero times. He also has 3 other cars. Never drives them either. I had to order him rebuild kits for the carbs on the GT40 because from not using it the fuel had gummed up the carbs.

Yes, you will see exotics on the road. But the majority of them are not daily or even weekly driven. Most are started and brought to temp then shut down. It's pretty easy to tell this. Go look for one to buy. When was the last time you saw a 60,000 mile Lamborghini? Have you ever? Doubtful.

Let me help you in a way you might understand. You say that replicas are stupid, shouldn't be built and are crap. Let's apply this to racing. You do amateur racing. There are people that think that low budget racing isn't racing, just people with no money wasting time. I don't think that, but there are people that do. You would not agree with that statement, I am sure.

What it boils down to is this. People make do with what they have the means to do. Most people can't afford to buy a real Lambo, just like you can't afford to race the Porsche cup. So who are you, or who is anyone else to dump all over someones dream? You make the best with what you have. Plain and simple.

[speedminded]

Ok, you have seen one Enzo going through town. How many Enzos were produced? The Lambo in town is Mark Vincents. Red Countach. He rarely drives it. I've seen him drive it all of 2 times. There is also an original GT40 Lemans car in town as well, did you know that? Guy paid 1 million bucks for it. It's supposedly the last Lemans GT40 that is street driven or something. I've seen him drive it all of zero times. He also has 3 other cars. Never drives them either. I had to order him rebuild kits for the carbs on the GT40 because from not using it the fuel had gummed up the carbs.

Yes, you will see exotics on the road. But the majority of them are not daily or even weekly driven. Most are started and brought to temp then shut down. It's pretty easy to tell this. Go look for one to buy. When was the last time you saw a 60,000 mile Lamborghini? Have you ever? Doubtful.

Let me help you in a way you might understand. You say that replicas are stupid, shouldn't be built and are crap. Let's apply this to racing. You do amateur racing. There are people that think that low budget racing isn't racing, just people with no money wasting time. I don't think that, but there are people that do. You would not agree with that statement, I am sure.

What it boils down to is this. People make do with what they have the means to do. Most people can't afford to buy a real Lambo, just like you can't afford to race the Porsche cup. So who are you, or who is anyone else to dump all over someones dream? You make the best with what you have. Plain and simple.

I've seen a red Countach several times in Buckhead, he took it to Jason's Deli twice that i know of and seen it on the road a couple other times...and i know an Italian V12 when i hear it Had a friend that sited a GT40 with straight pipes and Gulf paint scheme in Sandy Springs, haven't been able to verify what or who it was.

Porsche Turbos, GT2's, & GT3's are really the only high end "exotic" that can be daily driven...no need for valve adjustments every few thousand miles, etc.

[BobbyFresco]

Ok, you have seen one Enzo going through town. How many Enzos were produced? The Lambo in town is Mark Vincents. Red Countach. He rarely drives it. I've seen him drive it all of 2 times. There is also an original GT40 Lemans car in town as well, did you know that? Guy paid 1 million bucks for it. It's supposedly the last Lemans GT40 that is street driven or something. I've seen him drive it all of zero times. He also has 3 other cars. Never drives them either. I had to order him rebuild kits for the carbs on the GT40 because from not using it the fuel had gummed up the carbs.

Yes, you will see exotics on the road. But the majority of them are not daily or even weekly driven. Most are started and brought to temp then shut down. It's pretty easy to tell this. Go look for one to buy. When was the last time you saw a 60,000 mile Lamborghini? Have you ever? Doubtful.

Let me help you in a way you might understand. You say that replicas are stupid, shouldn't be built and are crap. Let's apply this to racing. You do amateur racing. There are people that think that low budget racing isn't racing, just people with no money wasting time. I don't think that, but there are people that do. You would not agree with that statement, I am sure.

What it boils down to is this. People make do with what they have the means to do. Most people can't afford to buy a real Lambo, just like you can't afford to race the Porsche cup. So who are you, or who is anyone else to dump all over someones dream? You make the best with what you have. Plain and simple.

Very well worded.

[Glides]

I've seen a red Countach several times in Buckhead, he took it to Jason's Deli twice that i know of and seen it on the road a couple other times...and i know an Italian V12 when i hear it Had a friend that sited a GT40 with straight pipes and Gulf paint scheme in Sandy Springs, haven't been able to verify what or who it was.

Porsche Turbos, GT2's, & GT3's are really the only high end "exotic" that can be daily driven...no need for valve adjustments every few thousand miles, etc.

Yea. I agree. Porsche's are remarkably well behaved for an exotic.

The cars we are talking about are in Athens, not Altanta. The GT40 is owned by a dentist and the Lambo is a real one. It's nice too.

People are going to have their own opinions on this subject and no matter what logic or reason you hit them with, they won't change. Nothing wrong with that. But to just argue that all Replicas are bad just because they are fake is shallow.

[Elbow]

I am talking about a Diablo I have not seen the Countach, but in my grandmas old neighborhood there was a black Countach that sat in someones driveway collecting dust, literally it had spider webs on it and empty paint jugs. Sad site lol.

As for the replicas and racing. I just dont understand why to build a fake. Especially in that much detail. You like the way it looks? Cool. I see building kit cars that are not replicas. I just wont understand the replica thing.

If you do build a replica at least dont put company emblems on it, to me that screams you are trying to make it something it's not. And racing cant really be compared. Because I am moving up a ladder, next season I might be racing IMSA Lites or something if I find a sponsor. I understand your statement. I dont really think they are crap and shouldnt be built. I just dont UNDERSTAND why you would TRY to make it something its not. Like the Fieros with Grant steering wheels with a Ferrari emblem and full Ferrari replica body and all. The coolest replica I have seen that would be cool to me is the F40 with the 2JZ. Tube frame build up. BUT, a Japanese motor in an Italian styled car, hmmm.

Like I said it is personal preference. The home made replicas are cool because someone built it in their garage. VERY respectful, it's just if I was going to build my own car ground up, I would make something on my own. Something mixing my dreams of different exotics. I dunno...lol

[speedminded]

People are going to have their own opinions on this subject and no matter what logic or reason you hit them with, they won't change. Nothing wrong with that. But to just argue that all Replicas are bad just because they are fake is shallow.

I'd build and drive one but I certainly wouldn't badge it as anything...emblems and names isn't what makes a car look or sound good to me.

[Elbow]

Yea. I agree. Porsche's are remarkably well behaved for an exotic.

The cars we are talking about are in Athens, not Altanta. The GT40 is owned by a dentist and the Lambo is a real one. It's nice too.

People are going to have their own opinions on this subject and no matter what logic or reason you hit them with, they won't change. Nothing wrong with that. But to just argue that all Replicas are bad just because they are fake is shallow.

I dont mean that. I am just trying to understand why. I know more reliable, close looking to the real thing. If YOU build it it automatically gets respect from me. Fake or not.

[Glides]

The coolest replica I have seen that would be cool to me is the F40 with the 2JZ. Tube frame build up. BUT, a Japanese motor in an Italian styled car, hmmm.

I agree, that would be super hot.

I can actually see a cool market for the replicas with Japanese powerplants. A Lambo kit with an RB26 would be hot to me.

The emblem thing, I personally wouldn't put them on mine. Some people like em, I don't.

[Elbow]

Well see I know it sounds stupid, but the emblems are almost a make or break for me. A crazy built tube frame car that LOOKS like a Lambo with insane swaps would be cool to me, but if it SAID Lamborghini on it, I wouldnt like it...lol. I cant explain why.

[Frög]

Frog. I had a 1966 911 with a hopped up 67 S motor. Triple webers, flares, some old Ronal wheels and we painted it flat olive drab green like the old Ruff Nato test car. I over-revved it and had to tear it down, replace 2 rocker arms and the crazy valves in it. Put it back together, timed it wrong and ruined the same rocker arms and bent 4 more valves. It was the first engine I ever worked on....mistake.

i wanna see pics!!



about the whole replica thing.. all i have to say, is some replicas are cOoL!!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Bentl...QQcmdZViewItem

[Glides]

i wanna see pics!!



about the whole replica thing.. all i have to say, is some replicas are cOoL!!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Bentl...QQcmdZViewItem

No pics anymore. I owned that thign over 10 years ago. They didn't make cameras then.

[GSRteg®]

ewww

[Frög]

No pics anymore. I owned that thign over 10 years ago. They didn't make cameras then.

aw booooooooo!!!!

[magneto198]

crappy interior + no power = the suck