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    Quote Originally Posted by TheProfiteer
    Hey in court if a Muslim swears the oath of truth with his hand over the bible is he still liable for lying?
    Hmm...they should give them a Qur'an.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VooDooXII
    Hmm...they should give them a Qur'an.
    they do not, in fact a man was held in contempt of court for refusing to swear on oath to the bible.

    I personally think a Muslim president is our only ticket for avoiding the disaster that is coming in our future.

    History will repeat itself, world war is imminent.

    If Obamas practices and political ideas were not so ****ed up then I would have no problem with a Muslim president. Just Def not Obama.

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    i knew it all along... he's f*cking undercover Al-Qaeda trying to infiltrate the white house.


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    alright, after reading through this BULL****...

    we ALL know this will be a never ending debate. NO one will ever be happy with the current president. It just doesn't happen.

    Now, I believe that every person in that photo would run this country into the ground, ESPECIALLY Hillary.

    But before I get flammed or whatever, ya'll need to know Im not for EITHER party. Ive got VERY mixed views, I believe that the Gov't was founded on the Christian faith, but I DONT see the point in neglecting other faiths, that are ALOT like the Christian faith..Ladies and Gentlemen, accept it or not judism(spelling?), Muslim, and Christianity, IS THE SAME GOD!! For the true believers they all tend to be peaceful..Then you have your hypocritical Christians, your Radical Muslims and so on and so fourth. No one will ever be happy, and it will always be that way. As far as those who dont believe in any God what so ever...you cannot deny that those religions at least set the basic morals for the country...for the most part..Im not trying to knock on those who dont believe in what I do, I respect everyones opinion/belief...(just so thats out there)

    As far as the "muslim=not my president" comment..thats straight Ignorance..If you call yourself a Christian, your a damn hypocrite.

    I also dont think that anyone has really shined on either party. The 2 people I think that have a Shot against Obama and HIllary...would be Ron Paul and Rudy Juliani..

    The only reason I say Juliani is because of 9/11..the reason he wouldn't get it...Pre-9/11 if anyone remember he was ****in up big time..

    I really dont think anyone is that great for the position of Commander and Chief..its sad to say, you'd think someone would be in it for the Country and not for themselves...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reaper
    You'd think someone would be in it for the Country and not for themselves...
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    Quote Originally Posted by VooDooXII
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    thanks, you too. +1

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reaper
    alright, after reading through this BULL****...

    we ALL know this will be a never ending debate. NO one will ever be happy with the current president. It just doesn't happen.

    Now, I believe that every person in that photo would run this country into the ground, ESPECIALLY Hillary.

    But before I get flammed or whatever, ya'll need to know Im not for EITHER party. Ive got VERY mixed views, I believe that the Gov't was founded on the Christian faith, but I DONT see the point in neglecting other faiths, that are ALOT like the Christian faith..Ladies and Gentlemen, accept it or not judism(spelling?), Muslim, and Christianity, IS THE SAME GOD!! For the true believers they all tend to be peaceful..Then you have your hypocritical Christians, your Radical Muslims and so on and so fourth. No one will ever be happy, and it will always be that way.

    As far as the "muslim=not my president" comment..thats straight Ignorance..If you call yourself a Christian, your a damn hypocrite.

    I also dont think that anyone has really shined on either party. The 2 people I think that have a Shot against Obama and HIllary...would be Ron Paul and Rudy Juliani..

    The only reason I say Juliani is because of 9/11..the reason he wouldn't get it...Pre-9/11 if anyone remember he was ****in up big time..

    I really dont think anyone is that great for the position of Commander and Chief..its sad to say, you'd think someone would be in it for the Country and not for themselves...
    That guy is a complete idiot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WHAT_LAG
    That guy is a complete idiot.
    hows that?




    if your thinkin that I think Juliani only has a chance because of 9/11...ehh yes and no. He's the ONLY one who's showed true leadership out of anyone running...But im not completely convinced he'll win..Do I support him? yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reaper
    hows that?
    That stupid mofo, claimed that he did more work than the fire fighters at ground zero. He also said he was there longer and more than all the emergency workers. Why do you thinks most of the people in NY dont like him. He is full of ****, and will always be. I have no good feelings about someone trying to take credit for everything. The whole subject has been on tv, with numerous individual fire fighters and emt and police officers saying he was never there. But he was on tv taking credit like he was there. They stated that during the clean-up Juliani wasnt there, and was no where to be found. They also went on to stated, how could he take credit for clean-up efforts and helping find people when he wasn't there. So what was his ghost there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WHAT_LAG
    That stupid mofo, claimed that he did more work than the fire fighters at ground zero. He also said he was there longer and more than all the emergency workers. Why do you thinks most of the people in NY dont like him. He is full of ****, and will always be. I have no good feelings about someone trying to take credit for everything. The whole subject has been on tv, with numerous individual fire fighters and emt and police officers saying he was never there. But he was on tv taking credit like he was there. They stated that during the clean-up Juliani wasnt there, and was no where to be found. They also went on to stated, how could he take credit for clean-up efforts and helping find people when he wasn't there. So what was his ghost there?

    So how does that make me an idiot? I didn't say he'd win did I? NO..Considering not EVERYONE knows that he wasn't there..I flat out said, that the ONLY thing going for him and that(if you didnt notice) he's riding on is 9/11...why? because it made him more famous and got him out of the sex scandal that he was in just before 9/11. that not many people(besides newyorkers) remember. Every campaign He has made has been based on 9/11...its the only thing he's got and the only reason he MAY have a shot. Because alot of people only see 9/11 and Juliani was Mayor @ the time...

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    it's all that damn rap music and "M"tv.


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    Quote Originally Posted by KDM guy
    it's all that damn rap music and "M"tv.
    where does rap music come from? intelligent individuals?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SL65AMG
    where does rap music come from? intelligent individuals?
    nope


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    Quote Originally Posted by KDM guy
    nope
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    **** the pledge...... i stopped doing it back in high school.
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    From what I've seen, Ron Paul seems to have the most support...and Hillary Clinton, absolutely the least. Seriously, I've never seen so much..."anti-support" for a candidate as I've seen for Hillary Clinton.

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    Quote Originally Posted by VooDooXII
    From what I've seen, Ron Paul seems to have the most support...and Hillary Clinton, absolutely the least. Seriously, I've never seen so much..."anti-support" for a candidate as I've seen for Hillary Clinton.
    Yea but unfortunately clinton still has a good shot...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reaper
    Yea but unfortunately clinton still has a good shot...
    Well...I won't be voting for her.

    I really wish Mark Warner, Governer of Virginia was running. I did some research on him a while back and thought he'd be an excellent, well rounded candidate.

    Ahh, we had a project in Political Science on researching people that we think should run for the presidency. I wish I could find that paper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reaper
    Yea but unfortunately clinton still has a good shot...
    this is why:
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    OH NO! He didn't put his hand over his heart, what are we going to do? I don't see anything wrong with it, but I'm still not going to vote for him.
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    and this is why i hate religion ^^^^

    Im voting ron paul
    even if it means i have to write him in.

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    Very sad........even sadder than that is he'll probably win. That is the sorry state of the people who are probably going to be doing the voting. I also believe that once he is elected, he will be sniped. I just think it is going to be split and there will be ALOT of people who do not agree with his views and are not ready for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ultm8mind
    Very sad........even sadder than that is he'll probably win. That is the sorry state of the people who are probably going to be doing the voting. I also believe that once he is elected, he will be sniped. I just think it is going to be split and there will be ALOT of people who do not agree with his views and are not ready for it.
    yea right,.. IF he wins(he wont) that means hilary will be vice, and nooooone wants that dyke to be president!!!!!
    noone would snipe him, unless it was him and her at the same time! lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy B
    yea right,.. IF he wins(he wont) that means hilary will be vice, and nooooone wants that dyke to be president!!!!!
    noone would snipe him, unless it was him and her at the same time! lol
    if she became president i think that someone would take her out from the inside(govt). no one wants that psycho ***** in office. im keepin my guns, that ***** can go to hell..... and im paying for my medicine.
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    who the hell is Ron Paul? Isn't he that rapper from trinidad?

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    Obama is a secret terrorist that is going to take over the world and kill all non Muslim people.. its Osama's new secret weapon/terrorist attack..

    lolol..

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    i admit, i dont say the pledge nor do i put my hand to my heart when the event (pledge) is called. doesnt mean i'm not a patriot, or will defend the freedoms of this republic. i'm a vet just like a few peeps in here.



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    Quote Originally Posted by ahmonrah
    i admit, i dont say the pledge nor do i put my hand to my heart when the event (pledge) is called. doesnt mean i'm not a patriot, or will defend the freedoms of this republic. i'm a vet just like a few peeps in here.
    I see where you are coming from... I personally do not put my hand over my heart and say the national anthem... Am i wrong for that... Im in the Marines and still wont do it... But some may call me unpatriotic ..... OORAH Ahmonrah.... I disagree with Obama to the fact that he could at least stand at attention and show some respect for my fallen brothers... I stand at attention everytime its played... He should too...

    And who wouldnt want to see Hilary in office... I like her... :boobies:... Id hit
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    Quote Originally Posted by 95alty
    I see where you are coming from... I personally do not put my hand over my heart and say the national anthem... Am i wrong for that... Im in the Marines and still wont do it... But some may call me unpatriotic ..... OORAH Ahmonrah.... I disagree with Obama to the fact that he could at least stand at attention and show some respect for my fallen brothers... I stand at attention everytime its played... He should too...

    And who wouldnt want to see Hilary in office... I like her... :boobies:... Id hit
    that i do as well. but it looks to me like he did. i'm not gonna bash over one pic without knowing many details about obama and just cause he's a brotha wont win my vote, and on the flipside, i've known people that will sing the pledge like whitney houston, but will not volunteer themselves to the armed forces, let alone allow thei kids to go.



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    As far as i can tell there is no diffrence in the republican and democratic party. I and a good majority of my co-workers are Libertarian, and want as little government as possible. Heck if there was a way i could take away the 30% of my check they get i would be even happier, i personaly am voiting for Huckabe ( see www.fairtax.org ) And i hate to drag religion into this but doesnt the qu'ran say that Muslims have to convert, enslave or kill non muslims??? and to me if a muslim isnt doing this are they not to be concidered a hyporcit and not following their religion?(look it up if you dont believe me) i see alot of people coming after christians but not looking at the other side of the page. but hey thats just me feel free to flame on.
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    Quote Originally Posted by eraser4g63
    As far as i can tell there is no diffrence in the republican and democratic party. I and a good majority of my co-workers are Libertarian, and want as little government as possible. Heck if there was a way i could take away the 30% of my check they get i would be even happier, i personaly am voiting for Huckabe ( see www.fairtax.org ) And i hate to drag religion into this but doesnt the qu'ran say that Muslims have to convert, enslave or kill non muslims??? and to me if a muslim isnt doing this are they not to be concidered a hyporcit and not following their religion?(look it up if you dont believe me) i see alot of people coming after christians but not looking at the other side of the page. but hey thats just me feel free to flame on.
    i believe its something to that extent. i have never read for myself but thats what ive heard. i heard that taxation was somewhere in there too....(another option)
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    Quote Originally Posted by eraser4g63
    As far as i can tell there is no diffrence in the republican and democratic party. I and a good majority of my co-workers are Libertarian, and want as little government as possible. Heck if there was a way i could take away the 30% of my check they get i would be even happier, i personaly am voiting for Huckabe ( see www.fairtax.org ) And i hate to drag religion into this but doesnt the qu'ran say that Muslims have to convert, enslave or kill non muslims??? and to me if a muslim isnt doing this are they not to be concidered a hyporcit and not following their religion?(look it up if you dont believe me) i see alot of people coming after christians but not looking at the other side of the page. but hey thats just me feel free to flame on.
    no it does not. Agian please do not start with killing the in the name of god.

    While Islam, like Christianity, has a brutal history the direct translation of each religions holy book says nothing about killing in the name of god.

    I disagree with All Organized religion, its all just a puppet game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheProfiteer
    no it does not. Agian please do not start with killing the in the name of god.

    While Islam, like Christianity, has a brutal history the direct translation of each religions holy book says nothing about killing in the name of god.

    I disagree with All Organized religion, its all just a puppet game.
    ok killing in the name of allah then.....


    and organized religion really is a puppet game.... and a bunch of bull****.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SL65AMG
    ok killing in the name of allah then.....


    and organized religion really is a puppet game.... and a bunch of bull****.
    how old are you? seriously asking... because your argument is lacking, you sound like a 15 year old. that would make sense. I hope you are not a grown man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sledlude
    how old are you? seriously asking... because your argument is lacking, you sound like a 15 year old. that would make sense. I hope you are not a grown man.
    im no grown man, although im no kid either..... well i guess that depends on how old you are. im 19.


    i just have my own opinions, and im not afraid to voice them.


    not all religion is bull****, just parts of it.
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    Either way i don't much care for any of those options myself.. but hey who am i to say..
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    There is so much ignorance scattered throughout this thread it's hard to know where to begin. I guess I'll just pick on a few things that bothered me...



    1) The words "under God" were not added to the Pledge of Allegiance until the early 1950s. Therefore it cannot be used in any argument about what ideals our founding fathers had in mind when establishing our country.

    That being said, I recited it every morning of grade school and have no problem saying it today.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pledge_of_allegiance


    2) The same thing stated above goes for "In God We Trust." It wasn't added to US currency until the 1950s. Before that only "E Pluribus Unum" (meaning "From many, one" or "Out of many, one") was the only motto used.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_God_We_Trust
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E_Pluribus_Unum


    3) Whether the country was founded on Christian ideals is debatable. What's absolutely not debatable is the fact that it was founded on the concept of the separation of church and state. The government should have absolutely no say in what citizens of the United States believe. Religion should have absolutely no say in the affairs of our government.

    Obviously we still need to work on this (prayer in school, hand on the Bible, gay marriage, etc).





    Alright, I'm tired of typing. I'm done for now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeweyWRX
    There is so much ignorance scattered throughout this thread it's hard to know where to begin. I guess I'll just pick on a few things that bothered me...



    1) The words "under God" were not added to the Pledge of Allegiance until the early 1950s. Therefore it cannot be used in any argument about what ideals our founding fathers had in mind when establishing our country.

    That being said, I recited it every morning of grade school and have no problem saying it today.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pledge_of_allegiance


    2) The same thing stated above goes for "In God We Trust." It wasn't added to US currency until the 1950s. Before that only "E Pluribus Unum" (meaning "From many, one" or "Out of many, one") was the only motto used.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_God_We_Trust
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E_Pluribus_Unum


    3) Whether the country was founded on Christian ideals is debatable. What's absolutely not debatable is the fact that it was founded on the concept of the separation of church and state. The government should have absolutely no say in what citizens of the United States believe. Religion should have absolutely no say in the affairs of our government.

    Obviously we still need to work on this (prayer in school, hand on the Bible, gay marriage, etc).





    Alright, I'm tired of typing. I'm done for now.
    Very nice educated response.

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