ok back on topic, not all v8 owners are like that, i think if someone can take a 4 banger and kill me thats awesome, if anything id stop and ask for a ride in the car not try and fight someone, but i know what you mean about Gainseville, there are some hardcore rednecks up there that think they can't be beat, i talked to one guy at g.s.c. with a lt1 camaro that thought he was unbeatable and told me my car was slow b/c its a vert but wouldn't agree to race for 50 bucks
o and i got the 1/4 time from some car website since i didnt know off the top of my head i think 15 was with avg driver and a good driver could pull 14.5