What the ****

[PSINXS]

Knowing someone doesn't mean they can't mess your car up, IMO....directed at Mike. So that point is moot. I think they should stand behind it as well....I read that he said he didn't even get to drive it, so I know Brandon didn't do it. I think Mike was just asking if it could have been a machine shop or assembly error (who DID assemble it? We assemble our own engines. The machine shop just hits the numbers that we give them). It kind of hard to blow up a car simply on install. I think it may even be impossible Either way, if you paid them and not the machine shop..as in if they outsourced the work, then they should stand behind it just as if they had done the machining themselves. That's the problem with not doing everything in-house. It leads to finger pointing. Luckily we can do almost all of our work in-house. We still out source our machine work, but we have been with them since before we ever even had a shop.

I don't know the whole story and most of us don't here in this thread...so most of what is said here is irrelevant (besides good luck) until Brandon decides to tell his entire side of what happened both times. Brandon is a stand up guy and I'm sure he's giving them all the chances he needs to.

Tank,

Glad you found someone to do your job right. You should be careful lumping "everyone" into the same category....we never touched your car....although almost everyone else did

THank you Tracy. The first build they didnt do and they arent responsible for that. That was in 05-06. After it blew again, I brought it to THP in Sept 06. Stayed awhile becuase of the time taken for the build plus extra time for a flywheel issue. April 07 car still at shop, on a base tune session the turbo blows right before i got back to the shop. Like in front of the driveway lol I buy another turbo, they flush they motor of any water and oil, do a leakdown test and it was perfect. Car got driven this past saturday by THP and the result is what I posted. I dont know who machined it or who assembled the motor because i was not working there at that time.

[Tracy]

THank you Tracy. The first build they didnt do and they arent responsible for that. That was in 05-06. After it blew again, I brought it to THP in Sept 06. Stayed awhile becuase of the time taken for the build plus extra time for a flywheel issue. April 07 car still at shop, on a base tune session the turbo blows right before i got back to the shop. Like in front of the driveway lol I buy another turbo, they flush they motor of any water and oil, do a leakdown test and it was perfect. Car got driven this past saturday by THP and the result is what I posted. I dont know who machined it or who assembled the motor because i was not working there at that time.

Who is doing the tuning? They don't have a dyno. Same things as the machine shop stuff though. They should still have to stand by it if they outsourced the work (nothing they can do about a blown turbo obviously. That's manny defect, not tuning error). Does Red Star still do their machining? I know they are heavy into the domestics...but a machine shop should still be able to do it right.

o0o0o0o something just hit me. Maybe there wasn't any oil in it. Did they ever check that? If the turbo blew first and now the motor is knocking...maybe it's oil starvation. Sometimes people forget to check that.