dude really civics to me are like the beginner class for tuners i mean how many folks you know still ride anything with a civic motor in it other than a b16 or the slightly built k? Most of them are swapped with something out of the b18 line or some beastly hybrid anyway. Its making decent power for a civ but that price i could throw that kind of money into a rsx type s and whup ass that all day. Hopefully Honda will drop the price to something reasonable. 40k is waaaaaaaaay too high.