HOLY FUCKING HAIL!!!!!

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Originally Posted by Nomad!

For the sake of an intelligent discussion on IA, I hope this was a gross generalization and meant to be aimed more specifically at the the dude who posted the comment about Vick.


Sorry to be the one to ruin your "American Dream" but, racism is alive and thriving in 2007 just as it was in the 1920's. Of course some people use race as an out but, just because the date has changed doesn't mean that the times have as well. The flip side to some blacks always using the "race card" is some whites always thinking that racism no longer exists and when race is suggested as a factor, they immediately assume the "race card" is being played.


Again, I hope this was just another gross generalization because, if you think this is a trait only associated with blacks, you are shrouded in ignorance. This is something that is done by ALL RACES, WHITES INCLUDED!

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+1 :goodjob:

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Originally Posted by Killer

oh and remember when mike myers and kanye were on tv...

yeah, mike myers told the world that bush hated white people because a hurricane hit....

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Wasn't Kanye talking and Mike Myers was standing behind him like a deer in headlights...... If memory serves me right.

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Originally Posted by Nomad!

Ah, the sweet blissful ignorance! I know not of your personal experiences but, my experiences has afforded me to over hear; "The blacks get away with ________", "The Mexicans are taking all of our jobs", "I'm the new minority that's why I can't get _______", etc...
Its the same shit being dropped by a different bull!

As far as Kayne West & Mike Myers situation, I really don't see how that is, in any way, related to my comment. A lot of people felt the slow government response to Katria was prompted by race, whites included. Kanye speaking his mind on that situation has absolutely NOTHING to do with anything stated in my post

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how does it not relate??? it was a BLACK man blaming a natural disaster on WHITE man... basically saying... "if N.O. was a rich WHITE city troops would've been there"

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Originally Posted by Echonova

Wasn't Kanye talking and Mike Myers was standing behind him like a deer in headlights...... If memory serves me right.

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i was being sarcastic... but yes.. the look on mikes face was freaking priceless...

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Originally Posted by Killer

i was being sarcastic... but yes.. the look on mikes face was freaking priceless...

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i felt sorry for him,lol

theri just talking,all sudden Bush hates black people:lmfao:

I like boobies... White boobies... Asian boobies... Black Boobies... Latino Boobies...


Can't hate on Boobies of any kind... Unless ur a fag and u like man boobies

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Originally Posted by Killer

i was being sarcastic... but yes.. the look on mikes face was freaking priceless...

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Originally Posted by Nomad!

Kanye speaking his mind on that situation has absolutely NOTHING to do with anything stated in my post

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Nomad beat me to it. I missed that one.

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Originally Posted by Killer

i was being sarcastic... but yes.. the look on mikes face was freaking priceless...

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http://youtube.com/watch?v=C4ZQYmNrFZc

1:33 :lmfao:

LOL...he was like o,shit

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Originally Posted by Killer

how does it not relate??? it was a BLACK man blaming a natural disaster on WHITE man... basically saying... "if N.O. was a rich WHITE city troops would've been there"

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In no way, shape, or form did he blame Bush for a "natural disaster". He was commenting on the LACK OF FEDERAL ASSISTANCE!!! He blamed Bush for not sending help due to Bush "not caring about black people"! I'm no Kaye advocate but, you didn't have to be a card carrying member of his fan club to hear to what he said.

...and if N.O. were a "rich WHITE city" I personally feel they would have gotten help sooner. The key word here is RICH!

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Originally Posted by Kelly

http://youtube.com/watch?v=C4ZQYmNrFZc

1:33 :lmfao:

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lol! even chris tucker was thinking "what the hell did he just say??"

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Originally Posted by Killer

lol! even chris tucker was thinking "what the hell did he just say??"

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u know it was bad when smokey was shocked

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Originally Posted by Nomad!

In no way, shape, or form did he blame Bush for a "natural disaster". He was commenting on the LACK OF FEDERAL ASSISTANCE!!! He blamed Bush for not sending help due to Bush "not caring about black people"! I'm no Kaye advocate but, you didn't have to be a card carrying member of his fan club to hear to what he said.

...and if N.O. were a "rich WHITE city" I personally feel they would have gotten help sooner. The key word here is RICH!

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we're talking about throwing out the RACE CARD!!! if that's not a prime example of the race card.. i don't know what is... watch the video again son.. it relates...

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Originally Posted by HypnoToad

u know it was bad when smokey was shocked

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lol!!!!

instead of "smokey back there takin a shit"

chris tucker yelled..

"kanye up there talkin some shit!!!" lol..

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Originally Posted by Killer

lol!!!!

instead of "smokey back there takin a shit"

chris tucker yelled..

"kanye up there talkin some shit!!!" lol..

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DAMN!!!!!!

Back on topic.... George Bush doesn't care about the NFL or dogs.

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Originally Posted by Killer

we're talking about throwing out the RACE CARD!!! if that's not a price example of the race card.. i don't know what is... watch the video again son.. it relates...

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So, is it the "race card" only if a black person says something negative has happened or is the direct result of a white person's actions? I'm just curious because, that seems to be what's being said here. Had he said "Bush doesn't like poor people" would that have meant he was pulling the "income card"? Bottom line, Kaye said what Kaye felt, just as he always does. Period.

Oh, just in case you didn't know, racism does still exist!

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Originally Posted by Nomad!

So, is it the "race card" only if a black person says something negative has happened or is the direct result of a white person's actions? I'm just curious because, that seems to be what's being said here. Had he said "Bush doesn't like poor people" would that have meant he was pulling the "income card"? Bottom line, Kaye said what Kaye felt, just as he always does. Period.

Oh, just in case you didn't know, racism does still exist!

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LOLOLOLOLOLOL!!!!!!!!! trust me i know!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol....

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Originally Posted by Echonova

Back on topic.... George Bush doesn't care about the NFL or dogs.

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LOL! i already repped you.... but that's rep worthy... actually i'm gonna make it my new sig!!

I think Vick's influence is speading already.. Swiped from another thead.

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Originally Posted by Mr_Mischif

I woulda went Vick on that dog. No lie.

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hehe remember the thing w/ nancy carogen (however u spell her name)

Worldwide news that everyone forgot about. Nobody will care or remember about this down the road... The media and the government will make some money off of Michael Vick... thats all they care about.

What does society want?? who knows... Everyone wants something different...

Which is exactly why this thread is getting old and boring... Just like the Michael Vick story in general.

i wonder which prison will draft vick...

some of those inmate football teams could use a good QB i'm sure...

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Originally Posted by ©hris

hehe remember the thing w/ nancy carogen (however u spell her name)

Worldwide news that everyone forgot about. Nobody will care or remember about this down the road... The media and the government will make some money off of Michael Vick... thats all they care about.

What does society want?? who knows... Everyone wants something different...

Which is exactly why this thread is getting old and boring... Just like the Michael Vick story in general.

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stop posting.. no one likes you.

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Originally Posted by Nomad!

So, is it the "race card" only if a black person says something negative has happened or is the direct result of a white person's actions? I'm just curious because, that seems to be what's being said here. Had he said "Bush doesn't like poor people" would that have meant he was pulling the "income card"? Bottom line, Kaye said what Kaye felt, just as he always does. Period.

Oh, just in case you didn't know, racism does still exist!

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I think the main problem is that the race card has been overused. It has been pulled on many issues that really had nothing to do with race. So when something does happen (or doesn't happen) that is quite possiblly racially motivated (like the slow response to Katrina), you have some people who look at it as being a cop-out and then cry that their race is being "picked on." Maybe it's just me, but if a natural disaster were to strike a city like Denver, you can't tell me that the feds would have responded in such a leisurely manner like they did with N.O. But that is just my personal opinion. :2cents:

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Originally Posted by Nomad!

Oh, just in case you didn't know, racism does still exist!

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shit anybody that reads killers posts knows that

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Originally Posted by Six2Six

I think the main problem is that the race card has been overused. It has been pulled on many issues that really had nothing to do with race. So when something does happen (or doesn't happen) that is quite possiblly racially motivated (like the slow response to Katrina), you have some people who look at it as being a cop-out and then cry that their race is being "picked on." Maybe it's just me, but if a natural disaster were to strike a city like Denver, you can't tell me that the feds would have responded in such a leisurely manner like they did with N.O. But that is just my personal opinion. :2cents:

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Nuff Said

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Originally Posted by DBCooper

shit anybody that reads killers posts knows that

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That I do agree with. Later, QD.

ia wouldn't be ia w/o 1 good race drama thread a week :yes:

^ speaks the truth. Race threads are blowing up the WL.

Its a case of stupidity, which ALWAYS trumps race!

All I can say is REALLY?!?!?!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=RjtVnqZCndo

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Originally Posted by shagwAg3n

ia wouldn't be ia w/o 1 good race drama thread a week :yes:

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Sadly that's true. But thanks to Julio and staff we don't have racial slurs every other word like "the old days" two months ago.:goodjob:

People - It's an ALLEGATION against Vick - he has not been convicted of anything yet. Funny how I don't see 12 impartial people in this thread - after all of these pages. You are so quick to assume guilt. Doesn't the indictment look a little odd to you? It has a lot of "extra" info in it that has no bearing on the charges against him. It talks of animal cruelty - but he is not charged with that. All of the alleged informants are anonymous - no names given. What is happening is that he is being tried in the media before trial, which is wrong - the indictment should have stayed sealed until trial.
I'm not saying that he is guilty or innocent, and neither should anyone else that doesn't have all of the facts. You shouldn't pass judgement based on just the feds allegations.

i dont think its a race thing i think its gonna be more glamorized cuzz he is from the hip-hop generation and he has braids and he dont care what people thinks about him but he is stupid anyways he dosnt even call his own plays in the game

:dj:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gV2XBNl5604

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Originally Posted by quickdodge®

Are you serious? Are you really motherfucking serious?????? How some motherfuckers can make any damn thing a racial issue is beyond me. No wonder the shit won't go away. Check this out:



You've got to be a motherfucking idiot to really believe this shit. Now you're going to bring race into every fucking crime ever committed? Can a black man NOT do something wrong and he get arrested for doing that crime. Or is he only being arrested because he's black? With your mentality, if you saw a white person throw out an old coffee pot that just happened to be........OH SHIT!!!!...........black in color, do you think she threw it out because it was black? This shit is unbelievable. Later, QD.

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Sorry QD but lets be honest, if payton manning had done this and admitted to it.. they'd slap him on the wrist and fine him and maybe suspend for a season


Since vick is black and he's denying it like any black person would do they want to own him and put him in jail and prosecute him to the full extent of the law.

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Originally Posted by kayfuNk

Sorry QD but lets be honest, if payton manning had done this and admitted to it.. they'd slap him on the wrist and fine him and maybe suspend for a season


Since vick is black and he's denying it like any black person would do they want to own him and put him in jail and prosecute him to the full extent of the law.

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I have to disagree.

The main reason why this is getting so much attention is because of the simple fact that his is famous.

Just look at the media's top stories the last few years: Paris Hilton going to jail, Michael Jackson molestation (sp?), Mel Gibson drunk driving, Lindsay Lohan in rehab, Nicole Richie pregnant...etc

Let's face it, all of those stories were about famous people commiting crimes ( not pregnancy though ) that occur everyday in our society. We all know that people drink and drive, people get pregnant, sickos molest children, and people go to jail for violating probation.

Ask yourself this question, how many times you do hear about violent crimes where you live that get national attention recently ?

The only one I can think of is the Kathryn Johnson incident. To me, a change in police policy to prevent this from happening is more important to me because it can directly affect me and not Michael Vick's ALLEGED dog fighting involvement. He was indicted because of SUSPECTED INVOLVEMENT..etc, not because he was black.

To whomever it was that said that, get a life and start accepting responsiblity for you actions, that is what a adult should do.

/rant

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Originally Posted by bafbrian

I have to disagree.

The main reason why this is getting so much attention is because of the simple fact that his is famous.

Just look at the media's top stories the last few years: Paris Hilton going to jail, Michael Jackson molestation (sp?), Mel Gibson drunk driving, Lindsay Lohan in rehab, Nicole Richie pregnant...etc

Let's face it, all of those stories were about famous people commiting crimes ( not pregnancy though ) that occur everyday in our society. We all know that people drink and drive, people get pregnant, sickos molest children, and people go to jail for violating probation.

Ask yourself this question, how many times you do hear about violent crimes where you live that get national attention recently ?

The only one I can think of is the Kathryn Johnson incident. To me, a change in police policy to prevent this from happening is more important to me because it can directly affect me and not Michael Vick's ALLEGED dog fighting involvement. He was indicted because of SUSPECTED INVOLVEMENT..etc, not because he was black.

To whomever it was that said that, get a life and start accepting responsiblity for you actions, that is what a adult should do.

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im not talking about attention, if Manning had done this he would be getting off pretty damn easy..

the fact that he's a successful black male makes it 100 times worse on him.

I have a full house with two of these and there ace's.

911, just wow.