I see that side of it, but I still feel the use of excessive force as bad situation aside. He condones it based on the situation.
I see that side of it, but I still feel the use of excessive force as bad situation aside. He condones it based on the situation.
He says it happens, just don't let it happen to you by avoiding situations that make it more likely to occure.
That's exactly right. That's not condoning the actions of the officer who does this. Just stating that knowing there are police that do this, don't do shit to get them on you. Good cop or bad cop period, no need to be fucking up in the first place, lolol. Later, QD.Originally Posted by Big J
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He condones it based on situation. I don't dissagree with the not doing "wrong" stuff to start with, but condning it on a situation by situation basis is wrong and what both of you are trying to do.
Sorry, man, I don't see it that way. Everyone knows that there are cops like this out there. When you fuck up and get caught, you never know if that officer is going to be "that" officer. So if you don't fuck up, you won't be at the mercy of "that" officer. You must not know my feelings about the police and think I am anti-law enforcement, but I'm probably the most pro-cop person on IA. And I don't think anyone on here will tell you that I'm an idiot and uneducated and have no common sense. And I'm sure that my abundance of these qualities are not on vacation in this topic. Later, QD.
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You don't have to be doing anything wrong to potentially be in a situation which you could be confronted by the possibility of facing somthing like this. What about the 90 yo lady in the wheelchair that was shot a killed? If we are expected to abide by zero tollerance laws and regulations why shouldn't the same be expected by thoses who chose to enforce these laws to do the same
fucking cop used to much force. I didnt pay much atten but i think the cop said she was fighting back to the other officers, damn cops think they can do what ever they wont
i been pulled over 12 times in covington since i been out here and i dont try to do anything that would get my ass whip so when i get in my car im on my P's and Q's if u act rite they wont touch u but the littlest thing can set it off and u can end up like Rodney king
You're right. But that's kind of another deal. And that doesn't happen every single day every what, 5-10 minutes? I think you're just reaching to justify something and I don't know what it is. Later, QD.
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And that's my main point, if you can codone it in any situation, you condone it period, and by punking out and saying oh well, I'll just avoid it by staying inside the law isn't a guarntee it won't happen to you if it's allowed to happen at all.
I'm undestanding of law enforcment and their jobs, but I'm more pro citizen
Ima go half and half. Yes she did stop and the car was parked but she was drunk so she was drunk driving. She did resist but not to were he had to pull her hair and shove her face into the ground. True alot of ppl here say fuck the police, but when we are in need ppl are quick to say CALL 911!!!!
How fast is a emu from a dig? Do you increase response by applying Tabasco sauce to it's nether regions?
Ok, man. I'll back out now. I don't see any point in keeping this up. You clearly see things through a different pair of lenses than I do. Good luck with that. Later, QD.
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Hell yeah, that bitch got exactly what she deserved.
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You mean the 90 year old woman who was shot by police because they were serving a no knock warrant on a known crack dealer and she shot at them? Yea, she did nothing wrong but you can't compare this to that since it's completely different. Serving a no knock warrant on a crack house is in no way, shape or form the same as snatching a drunk girl out of the car, sropping her on her ass on the pavement, roughing her up, pulling her hair and yelling and screaming at her.
What QD is saying is this. Don't fucking do stupid shit and the chances of stupid shit happeneing to you is lessened. Sure, it isn't gonna completely go away. Shit I could walk out my door and a cop just up and jump out the bushes and beat the shit out of me because I looked like the guy that ran over his lawn and he snapped. But comon man, the odds of that happening are next to shit. Now, if I go out there, fall asleep on the side of the road drunk, then almost drag him out into traffic and almost roll into traffic myself cause i'm shitfaced, he might just remember that lawn incident a little faster and beat the hell out of me.
Don't be dumb. All QD is saying.
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if a cop is yelling at me to stop the car and get out, thats what im going to do. she told him no and also resisted arrest while on the ground. i think she deserved it. if it was a male driver, the video wouldnt be about to go to a grand jury. male or female, you are equally dangerous to the public when driving drunk.
That is fucking bullshit.
1. IF the car was PARKED on the side of the road (it seems like she basically pulled over and went to sleep), you cannot charge her with DUI. The damn car is parked.
2. He is screaming "GET OUT THE CAR" when the lady is in the middle of the damn street. She wasn't even resisting. Someone needs to pull this stunt on his wife or daughters.
3. What she has done, does not mean you can treat her like crap. She is innocent until proven GUILTY. Most of you have forgotten that.
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I think people are too hard on cops. They have to deal with the scum of the streets on a daily basis. They have to watch their backs at all times, because even though they represent a force of good, there are people who hate them no matter what.
The shit that cops see makes them ready for any situation, and quick to diffuse any situation that could get out of hands. Drunk idiots can make a simple situation go beserk in the snap of a finger.
Bottom line, cops are always on edge because of what they deal with. Their best bet is to make a move before someone else does, for their safety and the safety of those around them.
So maybe everyone thinks, oh man how could he do that? But she was drunk and probably very belligerent, so he did what he thought he had to do to diffuse the situation before anything happened.
If it was a man and not a woman no one would bitch. She is crying like a baby because she's sauced to the gills and just got what she had coming.
You can clearly see the car moving, and her not listening. He had the door open, she still didn't listen. She moved the car once, he couldn't take the chance of her taking off.
The fact that it could and does happen to people not doing anyhting wrong, even if only a small percentage of the time, is too often.
To the best of my knowlege sleeping on the side of the road in your car is not a crime. Not opening the window or stepping out of the car on the request of an officer is not a crime, especially if reasonable suspension has not been established. His first command was step out of the car, not are you ok, now this may be related to context and not seeing the very first parts of the video.
Sleeping and not waking or getting out of a car upon requset is not a crime. Consider the possibility that the woman was def, again hypothetical, but valid for this argument. The establishment of intoxication AFTER THE FACT is not justification for the actions of the officer. He failed to establish that in fact the woman leaving the scene would reasonably indanger the public. It MIGHT support reasonable suspision her being hard to arouse, but having seen metabolic conditions like diabetes initally presenting with the same symptoms as alcohol intoxication, the assumption by any officer of intoxication w/o more certainty that a flashlight through a window is irresponsible. This has been backed up in court cases where medical conditions mistaken as alcohol intoxication where injury resulted to the person have been decided aganist the offecers and departments. He clearly calls her a bitch, and when she is 4 feet from the car and on the ground he is still ordering her to exit the vehicle, WTF.
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Bingo......
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i saw the car moving in the video
she did resist. did u not see what happened when he tried to cuff her. it was stupid how he yelled "get out of the car, now!" when she was in the middle of the road. lol
when someone is dangerous and not cooperating sometimes it is necessary. i dont think he needed to pull her hair or call her "bitch", but other than that he really wasnt out of line in my book. i just think she is a cry baby and females expect extra leeway under the law.
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come on.
window tint laws anyone? danger to the officer, BS. that's cry baby stuff.
I agree. Females do think producing a few tears gets them off from any punishment.
If that bitch was crying like that, I'd be pissed too.
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He TOLD her to move the car. The car was parked.
he never told her to move the car
She did not resist. She was incoherent. She might have been deaf. The guy dragged her out the SUV. Where was she resisting?
she refused to get out of the car. she wasnt deaf because he said get out and she responded "no". then she kept pulling her arm away to prevent the cop from cuffing her.
If you think lady was dangerous, do not go outside. She was as good as an arrest as you can ask for. He clearly got a hard on being a total ass to her.
i think she is VERY dangerous intoxicated behind the wheel of a 5000lb car
fuck the police
They should both be shot at point blank! Dumbass bitch for driving while drunk and a dumbass cop who was being that guy that used to get his ass kicked in school ! Fuck em both
He is a piece of trash and like a piece of trash should be taken care of in the proper manner!
Wow i wish i could quote evryone but that would take way to long.naw she wont get anything and he wont get punished, he asked 3 times to get out she did not, he went to get here out of the car and she resisted! IE Resisting Arrest! she was resisting when she was rolling away he had his full right to pull her drunk ass out of the car! She was driving home passed out and blind ass luck happen to come to a stop on teh side of the road! still drunk driving! Georgias No tolerance law!
If the keys are in the ignition and she is in the driver seat drunk = DUI... wether the car moves or not, whick it did.
She says no when he says get out of the car = resisting
He has to hit the horn for her to finally stop the car, then he says "your not driving"... She responds by saying "I'm not stopping"
Whe he rips her out of the car AFTER she says no, she is trying to slap his hands away... which is still resisting.
When he is pulling on her hair, she is still hanging onto the car. If she had just let go he never would have touched her head. Still resisting
While he is trying to cuff her she is still saying no and yes she does pull her hand away so he can't cuff her. He has to yell "give me your hand" = resisting arrest.
When he tells the other cop she was fighting, that can be interpreted as resisting.. He is in the right to use any force neccesary. If he wanted to he could have maced the shit out of her while she was resisting arrest.
EVERYONE WHO THINKS ACCESIVE FORCE WAS USED... YOU GUYS ARE THE REASON WOMEN GET AWAY WITH MORE SHIT.
Now this girl is trying get money out of her DUI = bullshit.
This case will get shot down
exactly if it was a guy he would have gotten tazered or maced,and nobody would be making a big deal out of this...
also if she was black,people would be calling him racist
+2 for SicStang03 and HypnoToad.
had it been a black woman and he had called her a ****** bitch would it have been diffrent. He acted in anger and unprofessionally and called her a bitch. That shows where his mind was at, not on point, not a "professional".
Officers get too much slack because of "the nature of their job".
A doctor wouldn't be able to get away with calling a hooker a nasty whore while providing medical treatment.
If he got that bent out of shape over a chic, he might have put one in the side of my head.
Big J....
You are making no points in my eyes.
Yes he called her a bitch... big deal, this is a battery charge no a verbal assault!!
Also, yea he got bent out of shape, there is a drunk BITCH trying to drive and resist arrest. Not only is her life at risk, but also everyone else. There is a difference between being drunk and being WASTED. She probably doesn't even remember that night or how she got there. In my eyes she got of easy by just being dragged out and called a bitch. Like toad said, if it was a guy he would have been maced and probably had a gun pulled on him.
at least mace is considered a more reasonable use of force than pulling hair. I'd be willing to bet a lot of departments have a section of accetapble and unacceptable techniques for restraint.
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GEORGIA CODE
Copyright 2006 by The State of Georgia
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*** Current through the 2006 Regular Session ***
TITLE 16. CRIMES AND OFFENSES
CHAPTER 5. CRIMES AGAINST THE PERSON
ARTICLE 2. ASSAULT AND BATTERY
O.C.G.A. § 16-5-23 (2006)
§ 16-5-23. Simple battery
(a) A person commits the offense of simple battery when he or she either:
(1) Intentionally makes physical contact of an insulting or provoking nature with the person of another; or
(2) Intentionally causes physical harm to another.
(b) Except as otherwise provided in subsections (c) through (i) of this Code section, a person convicted of the offense of simple battery shall be punished as for a misdemeanor.
(c) Any person who commits the offense of simple battery against a person who is 65 years of age or older or against a female who is pregnant at the time of the offense shall, upon conviction thereof, be punished for a misdemeanor of a high and aggravated nature.
(d) Any person who commits the offense of simple battery in a public transit vehicle or station shall, upon conviction thereof, be punished for a misdemeanor of a high and aggravated nature. For purposes of this Code section, "public transit vehicle" has the same meaning as in subsection (c) of Code Section 16-5-20.
(e) Any person who commits the offense of simple battery against a police officer, law enforcement dog, correction officer, or detention officer engaged in carrying out official duties shall, upon conviction thereof, be punished for a misdemeanor of a high and aggravated nature.
(f) If the offense of simple battery is committed between past or present spouses, persons who are parents of the same child, parents and children, stepparents and stepchildren, foster parents and foster children, or other persons excluding siblings living or formerly living in the same household, the defendant shall be punished for a misdemeanor of a high and aggravated nature. In no event shall this subsection be applicable to corporal punishment administered by a parent or guardian to a child or administered by a person acting in loco parentis.
(g) A person who is an employee, agent, or volunteer at any facility licensed or required to be licensed under Code Section 31-7-3, relating to long-term care facilities, or Code Section 31-7-12, relating to personal care homes, or who is required to be licensed pursuant to Code Section 31-7-151 or 31-7-173, relating to home health care and hospices, who commits the offense of simple battery against a person who is admitted to or receiving services from such facility, person, or entity shall be punished for a misdemeanor of a high and aggravated nature.
(h) Any person who commits the offense of simple battery against a sports official while such sports official is officiating an amateur contest or while such sports official is on or exiting the property where he or she will officiate or has completed officiating an amateur contest shall, upon conviction thereof, be punished for a misdemeanor of a high and aggravated nature. For the purposes of this Code section, the term "sports official" means any person who officiates, umpires, or referees an amateur contest at the collegiate, elementary or secondary school, or recreational level.
(i) Any person who commits the offense of simple battery against an employee of a public school system of this state while such employee is engaged in official duties or on school property shall, upon conviction of such offense, be punished for a misdemeanor of a high and aggravated nature. For purposes of this Code section, "school property" shall include public school buses and stops for public school buses as designated by local school boards of education.
HISTORY: Laws 1833, Cobb's 1851 Digest, p. 788; Code 1863, § 4262; Code 1868, § 4297; Code 1873, § 4363; Code 1882, § 4363; Penal Code 1895, § 102; Penal Code 1910, § 102; Code 1933, § 26-1408; Code 1933, § 26-1304, enacted by Ga. L. 1968, p. 1249, § 1; Ga. L. 1987, p. 557, § 1; Ga. L. 1991, p. 971, §§ 5, 6; Ga. L. 1992, p. 2055, § 1; Ga. L. 1993, p. 91, § 16; Ga. L. 1997, p. 907, § 1; Ga. L. 1999, p. 381, § 4; Ga. L. 1999, p. 562, § 3; Ga. L. 2000, p. 16, § 1; Ga. L. 2004, p. 621, § 2; Ga. L. 2005, p. 60, § 16/HB 95.
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^u've obviously never been maced
watch the video again. When he pulls her out of the car by her hair she is slapping his hand away and saying no. IT"S HER FAULT THIS HAPPENED TO HER. If she gets any money out of this and he looses his job, it will be bullshit
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