I have no problem losing a show as long as the cars that beat me are actually better then me. Judging plays a huge part in it, for example, the Lams Judge didn't even know I did a tail light conversion. Idiots!! I would never go back to that show for that reason.

However, if I am beat fair and square, then there are no problems. I think the problems with judges now, is they dont give more points for certain things. Meaning a car that has a clean body kit and paintjob will get the same amount of points a wide body with conversions gets.

However, I have to say, the "Elite" Judges based out of California are THE BEST JUDGES I have ever met. They are judging the entire DUB Magazine Show Tour. I won first place in Charlotte, and wanted to talk to the judge to see what made me win over everybody else. They talked to me for about 30 min talking about how they wanted to make sure all the lines in the body work lined up, quality of paint to see if there were swirls or fish eyes, and nit picky shit. They were so detailed I was amazed. They are the best in my opinion.

Pablo, Julio, Paul, I have heard you guys are amazing judges too, I just havent been to a show you have judges at.