You aren't going to watch me do shit...since I played all of 7 minutes this weekend, I figure y'all don't need me anymore and I get to move to the official "assistant coach" position now. =-) That means no more sweating at practice for me now.Originally Posted by admin
i know right!!! na i don't need any sleep i'm going to watch you guys sweat at practice tomorrow
bahhhhhhhhhhh who are you kidding did you watch the 2nd half...
Prob reading...its pretty long.
Well behaved women seldom make history.
david asleep? should run in his room and tea bag him!!!
lol...he should be...but I don't think Allie would appreciate it much
Joe did you know we are still in 2nd placeby 1 point
Joe did you know we are still in 2nd place
No, but that saddens me...in a couple of weeks, the stuff that has been happening won't fly anymore.
hopefully we won't be doing the same shit in a couple weeks... i still can't believe we lost we had that game
or should of.
lawls at one sided thought processes, how about everyone chill and take a less heated glance at all the facts. None of the BS commenting would happen if people respect the others opinion, whether they agree or not, and leave it at that.
The American flag? Parts of our culture literally sicken me, but I don't think defiling a symbol of all the people is going to do any good about it. The ideas of americans are in the right place, but some of the hot headed people most definitely aren't. People aren't going to stop jumping the gun and joining the happy go lucky media band wagon any time soon because, well, alot of people, not all of course, don't take the time to gather the facts. If you truly cared about the issue and not just yelling out bs every chance you get, then you would gather all the facts.
And Bush? I don't agree here and there, but whats done is done. Vote next year and stfu if you want something different. =D
Then again I don't always practice what I preach, something common in our country, so my 2 cent isn't even worth that.
"Wait, so I wasn't suppose to pull that out?"
u really are new to IA huh?
Holy late and worthless Batman.
damn wayne, stop whoring this thead lol
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Theodore Roosevelt said him self "Patriotism is being loyal to your country, not your president" I don't see why people are getting upset by the fuck bush signs.
BTW: I have a pair of boxers made out of an American Flag from Tommy Hilfigure, does leaving skid-marks in them make me a terrorist?
yes and so does practicing any religion other than christianity...
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notes??? i'm not reading 30 pages to catch up... considering it prolly didn't stay on topic anyway...
oh and for the record maniac is an idiot....
yeah shawna... and qd is absolutely right about everything he says!
Funny how you seem to want to let things go away and yet you continue to bring them up. DO you think that just because I said Christian, I was referring to you? I had no thought of you. And what I did post is exactly right. She is hypocritical. Later, QD.
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no, i just think ur just as hypocritical and judge mental as every one else on this site, and i don't see why you think you have to point it out to everyone else that they are....
I don't want to dampen this thread, but please, please(I'm actually begging you) PM on what you think I'm hypocritical on. I'd love to see it. Please. And I'm serious. As far as I know, I'm not.
But to this thread, putting your "religion" aside, you don't think she is? Later, QD.
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i've only seen her make one post.... so i don't know if she is or isn't. as i said before i didn't read all 30 pages because i figured it went off topic. but i wasn't commenting on what she said, i was commenting on what you said....
but sure, i'll pm you.
No fuck you. You are the one fighting for his right to do this. Thank you for your service, but free speech is not meant to protect the speech you like, but the speech you don't like. If you didn't want to fight for what this country has always stood for then you shouldn't have joined the service. Just because you are in the military, you do not have the right to judge some one b/c of their political views. How did they cross the line? Did they kill anyone? Did they commit an act of terrorism? We also have the right to peacably protest and that is what this person is doing. I don't agree with what he has done, but it is his right to do it if he so chooses as long as he does it in a peaceful manner. Again, thank you for your service, but just remember; you are the one fighting for his right to do this so deal with it.okay i have had enough with this shit. i am a cool person and hardly ever bash, but this bitch crosed the line. in his or her signature there is a picture
this shit pisses me off and is a direct slap in the face to myslef and anyone else that is in the military. Wether you want to admit it or not we do this beacuse its what we believe in. If you have a problem with BUSH then so be it but do not desecrate the american flag by turning it uside down and writing on it.
If that is infact you in the picture then let me be the first to say
FUCK YOU
You are right, they are fighting for our freedom of speech, etc... But that flag he has disgraced represents the freedom that he has... And he obviously isn't grateful. It's so disrepectful IMO.
If people don't like America, there are plenty of other places for them to move. Why gripe and complain? Just move on and try to make yourself happy somewhere else. Seriously
No one who lives here dislikes it on the whole. There are just certain things which play a major role and make the entire country look bad. Maybe...just maybe, they feel like they can be a proper citizen and stay and change what they don't like, so they can enjoy living here.
So being a "proper citizen" is disgracing an AMERICAN flag?
Hmmm...
I don't think whoever did that aimed to "change" anything...just to express themselves. What I said had very little connection to that picture. I don't agree with desecrating the flag like that...but I'm not the one in that picture.So being a "proper citizen" is disgracing an AMERICAN flag?
Hmmm...
That's his right though. In fact, he is taking advantage of his rights...so yea, he's a proper citizen. A lot of people would have a problem with me having a gun, but hey...I have the right to.
Oh yea...as for that bit I said earlier...here's why this thread will just go on until the lock. There's no winning here...everyone's got a different idea of how they think this country should operate...and one man's trash is another man's treasure so...there. Each side will just be happy for increments of time.
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There is a difference in free speech and disgracing an AMERICAN FLAG!
he can say F*CK BUSH all he wants to, wear it on a T-Shirt, make a sign/banner... that's not the point, the point is he TRASHED AN AMERICAN FLAG!
But did he blow up a building? No. A flag is a symbol. Nothing more. When you really think about it it doesnt mean anything more than what people let it mean. So he wrote on a piece of cloth. Big deal. What if it was the flag of another country, say... Iraq, or North Korea. Then would it be ok?
Sure, it would maybe be ok with us but how would it make the Iraqis (sp?!?!!) or Koreans feel?
i'm sure if he was in north korea or iraq... he's be killed on the spot...
Isn't that what makes our country great though? the fact that we allow our citizens the freedom to express themselves.This is what seperates us from countries like Iraq and Korea.
You seem to have so much love for the American flag, but freedom of speech(no matter who it pisses off) is a HUGE part of what that flag stands for. The guy in the pic is making his statement, and he is excercising his rights as an American.
free speech is more than just spoken words yo, get yo shit straight.
yup, but desecrating the flag is against the law... so how can it be considered free speech.... i'm not retarded wayne, and though some of this debate may have been about bush... my beef with the sig holder was due to the fact there was something written on the flag, NOT what was written on the flag.... matter of fact, the thread starter stated kinda the same thing with the original post....
Killer, I normally tend to see your point of view. In this case, I just don't see why you should get all worked up about it. Let me give you an example:
You go to the grocery store. When you walk out, you see a couple arguing by THEIR car. The man suddenly takes a grocery cart and starts ramming it into HIS car. Although it's technically illegal what he is doing, how is his actions going to have ANY effect on YOU?
Now, let's look at it in the flag's scenario.
Some idiot half-wit protestor decides to march in some anti-Bush rally down a public street. He decides on his own, for whatever stupid messed up reasons, to turn the American flag upside down as he's walking. He even decides to later on scribble on it, maybe even burn it and stomp on it. How does HIS actions to an inanimate object like a flag have ANY effect on you besides making you angry? If President Bush did it, I'd be concerned because he does have the control over the big red switch, right? But some nobody that is venting on the street about something he probably knows little to nothing about and wants to be a retard? It amounts to some idiot jumping off the roof of his house imitating a wrestler for his dumbass buddies who are video taping. It's a dumbass move, but the only person he's really hurting is himself, right? I wouldn't do it, you wouldn't do it, and maybe a million other people wouldn't do it. Hell, we all think they are dumbasses for doing it....burning the flag or jumping off their roof....take a pic.
My point is that even though you and I may find that kind of display moronic, it also serves a purpose. The purpose it serves is that we have to ALL abide by the Constitution of the United States which affords even retards certain rights. When intelligent people, like you and I
Unfortunately sometimes, we have to let idiots speak so we can get equal time at the mic. Otherwise we would live in a society where only a handful of people get to express themselves....i.e. Dictatorship.
he didn't burn the flag, he didn't cut it up, he didn't stomp on it.....how'd he desecrate it again? maybe he was just retarded and was holding it upside down?
QD you are right I look at things from mostly their point of view b/c that is how I grew up I understnad both sides I just dont like how people disreguard what they do for a living
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