Quote Originally Posted by estis fatuus
What an ignorant, disrespectful, and nasty thing to say about your fellow drivers Tracy.
Get off you're fucking high horse it wasn't a disrespectful statement.



Quote Originally Posted by estis fatuus
I usually like you, and think pretty highly of you, but you seem to think that people like you, and Dan should be competing with amateurs like myself, and others in events.
Why shouldn't they be...because they own a shop


Quote Originally Posted by estis fatuus
Aside from that attitude, just generally pissing me, and a many other drivers too nice to say anything off, You're way fucking wrong, and this is why:
Oh great

Quote Originally Posted by estis fatuus
Now not to piss on your parade, but before you start shit talking Corollas and the people that drive them, do try to keep in mind that a) Not all of us own a shop, b) Not all of us are backed by a shop, or c) Not all of us can even afford to have a shop work on our cars.
They own the fucking shop you fucking tool, that means they work on them. Fuck I hate this bullshit ass shop argument.

Quote Originally Posted by estis fatuus
Now firstly, You have a "race car". Don't mistake it for anything else. You load it up onto a trailer, and drive it to the event, take it off the trailer, and start competing. If something goes wrong, you have lots of people, tools, and parts at your disposal to help you diagnose, and fix it.

If the race car breaks down, you aren't stranded at the venue.

If something goes wrong, or doesn't run correctly, YOU HAVE YOUR SHOP to take the car back to, and mechanics to work on the car.
When did she say it wasn't a fucking racecar, they have tools and a trailer because they fucking bought them. If you don't have the money to do the same get a better fucking job.

Quote Originally Posted by estis fatuus
You're not sliding your daily driver, you're sliding a purpose built, BatlGround built drift car, (of which you have two, in case you forgot) against, largely a bunch of people who can hardly afford to modify their car, let alone build one exclusively for drift events.
They have two because they have two drivers. Those other people should also get other jobs.

Quote Originally Posted by estis fatuus
At the moment I can't even afford to put axles in my car, and will be forced to sell it, if I can't come up with the money needed to fix the thing, before the next quarter starts at my school.
Get another Job its what Racers do, I'm about to be working two jobs so I can run the Koni Challege Series. Yeah life is hard

Quote Originally Posted by estis fatuus
"If you know the Supra is faster then don't choose a Honda for that class."

The only thing wrong with this statement is the fact that there isn't a tiered system of any kind at our local events, and to put it metaphorically, "not everyone can afford a Supra". But since we don't have a class system, of any kind, that leaves people like you, taking on people like Jason, Huy, Sean, Harrison, and other privateers who struggle just to put tires on their car, and afford the entry fee.
JOB GET A JOB

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"Hp pitty points" Yeah fucking right, have you ever tried to slide an AE86 Tracy? Have you ever actually completed an entire course in an AE86? Have you ever even driven one? Have you ever done anything but bad mouth the people who pay to come to the events you guys host, when they bitch about it not being "exactly" fair. I would give anything, anything to watch you, or even Dan try and slide a Corolla; or even better my piece of shit Corolla, with my standard "drift" set up around a course. If the heap didn't break first, I'd get to enjoy watching you try not to explode in a confounded fury, as the car did everything you didn't expect it to.
So because you bought a car that's short wheelbase and makes 4.7hp you want pitty points. I've driven damn near everything you can imagine on a road course and you can adapt to driving anything if you're a good driver....learn to drive.

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Not even the great Tony Schultz could do it right off the bat, and all know what an astoundingly gifted driver he is. In fact after trying the first few times, he compared it to "driving on ice", and said "I don't know how you do it..." before going to drive another car. Yet I've got video after video, of me in my run down piece of shit Corolla, that I paid way too much for, sliding entire courses, and hitting the correct clipping points at events. Do you know how many hours I spent in parking lots, rain soaked, and gravel roads hauling ass, so I could learn how to control my car? Hundreds. Do you know how many times local kids are nearly arrested for trying to practice before an event, so they can try keep up with the likes of you, and your shops drift car?
First I don't have anything against Tony Schultz but you clowns act like hes gods gift to drifting and hes just not that damn good.

Quote Originally Posted by estis fatuus
I used to compete with 135/70/13s on the rear on my Corolla, because that was the only thing I could AFFORD to slide on. Have you ever had to slide a car, sporting a set of rear tires with a 70 series sidewall? I very much doubt it.
I noticed you high lighted AFFORD....GET A FUCKING JOB

Quote Originally Posted by estis fatuus
It's easy to say people with Hachis just want "pity points" when you're sliding a purpose built, shop backed, no holds barred, fucking race car, and yet people like Jason, Huy, Mike, or Marty still manage to out place you at events. Do you know what would happen if you were to put a seasoned hachi driver behind the wheel of one of BatlGrounds drift cars? Chances are you'd see it being controlled in a way you didn't think possible. Many of us, myself included would give anything to see what we're capable of in a nicely set up, reasonably powerful car; but lets be real here, who wants to share their pride and joy, with someone driving a car costing many thousands less?
You really think youre a badass, you really think you would be that much better in a nicer car...

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Do you understand the dynamic differences of drifting a car with a shorter wheel base, versus drifting a car with a longer wheel base? If you really did, I don't think I'd be posting this thread.
Step 1 get the job....Step 2 buy long wheel base car....Step 3 Dominate D1

Quote Originally Posted by estis fatuus
"Pity Points" maybe, or maybe the underdogs want you to acknowledge their talent, ability, and all the hours they spent practicing, when they're driving a car that doesn't even come close to being comparable to yours. Maybe while you're chilling in the glory of top 8 finish; the guy who had to work twenty times as hard as you to be there, and be competitive, in a lesser car, only to finish in a lower spot, would appreciate a little respect from the local drift queen.
That bitch ain't the queen. If you are really as good as you think you are and you really worked that hard, you wouldn't need anyone else to respect you're mad drifting skills

Quote Originally Posted by estis fatuus
Do you know what the difference is between you and a lot of the guys out there at these events? It's simple; You come to compete. We come to learn.

That simple difference alone, shows in our driving.
So are you saying you're better than Tracy or not?

Quote Originally Posted by estis fatuus
So before you go shit talking Corolla drivers again, and their desire for "pity points" maybe you should step down from your throne (purpose built race car), and try to drift one of the local kids AE86s. Try it for a few months, just to see if you can even come close to doing what they do. I promise it will make you a better driver, faster than you ever thought possible.

Sincerely
-Robbie

Yeah they have a racecar that they built at their shop. With their money, that they earned by working on cars. Lots of long hours working on cars. I know because I'm there a lot and I know how many nights Dan and Brandon have been at the shop till 5 am fixing the cars.

I really want to run Koni Challenge Series, the problem is its 5 to 7 thousand dollars per seat per race. I can't afford that so I'm working a second job to save up the cash. Lifes hard sometimes but don't bitch about you're short wheelbase low power car....do something about it...don't expect to get pitty points.

Yep I'm an asshole

Matt