lets start charles------------
you quoted me saying
Originally Posted by Tank @ SupraForums
I got ready to get on teh highway and i was drivin about 5 miles and the car cut off and the radiato overflow was steaming.
then you said
This proves that obvious symptoms of overheating were present. Steam comming from the engine bay would be easy to observe as long as you're not distracted by other things or being careless. Cars do not simply turn off at the first sign of evaporation of coolant. The symptoms will persist for a bit before they take their toll and cause the motor to seize.
--------How does that prove that i was driving there was no sign or any kind other then the fact the car cut off. Keep in mind i was with MO he was following me in the highyway he also didnt notice anything. To take it a step further we even stopped and got gas and guess what no issue there other then the car wouldn't idle correctly which i told mike and turbo dave about also.
you quoted me saying
Originally Posted by Tank @ SupraForums
Now i never noticed any smoke and the car was driving normally so what could the problem had been and why.
then you said
This post comment was made in the same post quoted above. This either contradicts the original statement made by Tank saying that the "radiato overflow was steaming" or signifies that Tank, for some reason, was not observant to the coolant evaporating. Again, anyone with a basic understanding of automechanics knows that a motor does not instantly seize and stop at the first signs of coolant evaporation. Also, once temperatures become excessive enough for coolant to evaporate, both the smell as well as the visible steam produced are both clear signs that something is wrong.
----it doesnt contradict anything it is what it is, i didnt notice any signs of overheating or any issue the car cut off. Keep in mind charles i was in the car when the motor blew so i know what smoke or steam would look like from the engine bay.........
you quoted me saying
Originally Posted by Tank @ SupraForums
so you all think it was the thermastat then no other possiblities, now this being a new block and all shouldnt that been something checked or without a issue. i only came home for a few days on R&R leave frmo my deployment and this happens so i appreciate all your help
and you said
Tank states on the forums that his block is new but in actuality, it is compromised of mostly used internals such as used pistons, rods, crank, etc
---as i said in mikes thread my mistake on termonology, it is a used block head and pistons. However they was inspected by Mainstream Performance before the installation.
you quoted me saying
Originally Posted by Tank @ SupraForums
...and from what i heard the motor over heated to the point of seizing it up
you said
So the visible signs of coolant evaporation were not obvious enough to diagnose that the car had overheated for Tank. By implying that he's "heard" that the motor overheated and caused it to seize, I'm assuming he couldn't make the judgement himself so he asked people if the heat really caused his car to shut down. Not only does this show his lack of knowledge in automechanics but that he lacks simple common sense.
again your trying to imply something that just did not happen, i wont repeat myself again there was no signs.
you quoted me saying
Originally Posted by Tank @ SupraForums
...but ive been screwed once by a shop in ATL called Topspeed so i just wanted to ask others about it
you said
This is quoted simply to rebuttle any attempts Tank makes to say that he has never blamed or bashed a shop before.
---again your trying to twist words lets go back to what i said, i said i didnt make the thread on supraforums to bash anyone/shop. Yes i talked about ISP and Topspeeds bad work before but in my thread on SF i did not do this and it clearly shows and Supraforum members have agreed also
you quoted me saying
Originally Posted by Tank @ SupraForums
let me ask you all a question on my invoice it says they replaced the waiter pump and water temp sensor is that what you all are talking about
you said
As shown here, Tank does not know the difference between a water temperature sensor and a thermostat.
---your correct there i never sad i was vrey mechanically sound. however i do know enough from my experience from teh motor blowing to know steam or smoke from the engine bay is bad. But i never saw that why i was on the interstate only when i pulled over after teh car cut off was those signs apprearent.
you quoted me saying
Originally Posted by Tank @ SupraForums
well i sent the secratary for the shop a Private message on the local boards showing this thread and here was my response so i guess i my boy was right saying it was a cover up................
you said
This statement clearly shows that Tank is implying that either Mike, Mainstream, or both are attempting to "cover up" something. By implying that it was a "cover up", Tank is implying that they are hiding something from him and not taking responsibility for it. This is directly placing blame on Mainstream. We also know that labeling Mike as a "secretary" is an indirect insult at him but we'll dismiss for now.
----again read when that was posted matter fact read the post i posted that comment after i recieved the PM back from mike saying he was done with my car. at the time i was like damn if he is mad over me asking a question then damn i guess maybe there was a cover up. However up til that point i never brought up mainstream's nor mikes name Mike took it upon himself to get upset PM me what he did then turn around and start posting on supraforums after the fact......
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Originally Posted by Mike's Private Message to Tank
Re: serious questions
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you know what man, i had a DEATH IN MY FAMILY. Answering your PMs on my OFF DAYS is not at the top of my priority list. sorry. that may be rude, but thats the way it is.
Come get your car tuesday, we are done.
Originally Posted by Tank @ SupraForums
Quote:
let me ask this when a shop does something like this is there any standing for the customer.............
you said
Tank does not seem to understand that Mike is dealing with a death in the immediate family. He is also insensitive enough to think about only himself in this situation. This statement clearly shows Tank's character.
wait so im wrong when i make a post ask a question and then he gets upset and says he is 69'in my car. i dont think so this doesnt show my character the comment was made in the same post i made on supraforums showing mikes PM. so yes i wanted to know was there any standing for a customer because i getting teh 3rd degree from mike for no reason. Keep in mind all this has happend only after a week that i loss my wifes mom due to a murder. Mike and my friends knew of this also but i still pushed on and was trying to get things taken care of.
you quoted me saying
Originally Posted by Tank @ SupraForums AFTER Mike's initial response
At first i was gonna respond myself but i think ill use your own words for this one since your trying to make me look bad......
and you said
This statement shows that Tank feels his overall image is being attacked by Mike by saying "your trying to make me look bad....." As shown above in a previous quote, Tank first tried to make an attack on the image of Mainstream and Mike with the "cover up" statement.
-------wrong again my friend up til the point of mikes pm there as no issue nor shops/names involved
you quoted me saying
Originally Posted by Tank @ SupraForums
funny you say that visit http://www.mainstreamperformance.com/contact_us.php
and it says to also call and AIM you also on your site it says you work on saturdays i called 2 times left 2 messages, also Aimed you on saturday 8 times with no repsonse yet i saw you posting on the local forum so dooin your job or ignoring me which one........................something your forgetin mike your trying to cover your tracks but i have all PMs and emails from you did you think i deleted them ive been screwed twice before i thinki got a lil wiser this time.
and you said
Tank still does not care that Mike was dealing with a loss in the immediate family. The bolded statement is another accusation that Mike is trying to cover something up, again, insinuating that he has done something wrong. This statement also shows that Tank feels he has been screwed twice before by previous shops; again, this is to rebuttle any statements saying he's never bashed or blamed a shop for anything.
--------i find it funny how your using mikes loss as a crutch mike AIM'd me about his loss oh and get this he told me in the same sentence he would be at work late on satruday. So let me ask you if thats the case how am i incensitive when what i said is true he did try to make me look bad and he did jump on the defensive for no reason---------
you quoted me saying
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tank @ SupraForums in response to Mike
---- wait again you say this but you tuned the car before :remember when you made the exhaust" so if your such a reputable shop and im such a liar how come when tuning it you didnt take notice to the wastegate. basically sounds like you just take cars and throw them on the dyno without making/checking them----
you said
This statement shows that Tank assumes by paying for a tune on his vehicle, the shop should thoroughly examine the car's parts, setup, and check to make sure work on the car was done properly regardless of who did the work. Anyone who has done business in the world of performance automobiles knows this is simply not true. Your tuner is NOT responsible for your car's build and lack of required/quality parts. This again, shows Tank's lack of knowledge in performance cars.
-----wait i might not know alot about automechanics but how can you tune something without knowing what setup it has...........that doesnt make since what your saying. cause if thats the case then all shops do is take cars put them on a dyno and floor it and hope for a good tune. i dont think so and again supraforums members agreed also--------
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with the rest of your quotes your twisting words and times up charles all the other quotes was made after mike came into the thread and yes he did try to defame my character on there. i defended myself period. This all stems from mikes childish behavior. Had Mike have stopped and saw i was asking a question nothing more or less but judging from this pm he sent today........
Originally Posted by Mr. KiDD
Mike you fucked up and blamed me for some shit that wasnt true you then went on a rant on a national board and the members have agreed with me. i never attacked you or mainstream. Its appearant in not only post, pm's but also by how youve behaved on IA today. Also you answer phones, check emails thats a secratarys work also. that wasnt a insult its the fuckin truth just like tray is a secratay for topspeed .................... again i dont care what you all side with but if a customer seeks knowledge post a question asking for a answer and tells his tuner about the post "not like i hid it" then he doesnt deserve what i got. Also i never said mainstream should warranty the motor i tried to work with to fix and and i was paying. So again there was no issue until mike over reacted period end of story im done with this thread and your comments twist it cover it up or whatever it takes to make you all sleep better, im done with it just have my car ready tommorrow mike and have a nice day.
Tank
