Hot Wheels -- Great Body Shop! -- or not

[kerndog8]

I make you LOL.. fair enough.. But practice what you preach.. I never said you were asking for free shit... All I said was "EXPECTING SOMETHING " which MEANS : You are expecting him to help you when in fact he doesnt have to.


So if I sell tires and I sell you a car with fucked up tires and you fail to point that out and you signed the BOS and you are on your way.. one of your tires blows up.. you expect me to fix it ?

Haha...

The indian war was over years ago buddy...

True HOWEVER if you owned a tire shop then it would be different. Then I would expect / like you to help me out a little since you put new tires on and you do own the shop. You would have a guarantee on them just like if you sold them to someone. Why? Because that is good business.

Again I am not expecting anything, I am simply putting the word out there for others to see --1 bad paint job done by Hot Wheels

[DinanM3atl]

I make you LOL.. fair enough.. But practice what you preach.. I never said you were asking for free shit... All I said was "EXPECTING SOMETHING " which MEANS : You are expecting him to help you when in fact he doesnt have to.


So if I sell tires and I sell you a car with fucked up tires and you fail to point that out and you signed the BOS and you are on your way.. one of your tires blows up.. you expect me to fix it ?

Haha...

The indian war was over years ago buddy...

I think you are not understanding. This is the OWNER of the shop. He DROVE this car as his car for a little while. If you are shopping for a body shop to drop some cash on your car and you stumble across a thread like this is makes you think. HIS OWN PERSONAL VEHICLE HE PUT MISMATCHED SIDE SKIRTS ON AND CANNOT PAINT IT FOR FUCKING SHIT.

Now do you want to PAY him with your money if he can't keep his own fucking vehicles straight?

[Evil Goat]

Ummm excuse me? Please find wheer I said I inspected the car? Your reading skills are sub par.

I responded to your knock saying I don't know shit about cars. I however did not notice the side skirts and I have seen the car a bunch of times. I bet 9/10 of this forum would not have noticed it if he just posted pics... oh wait a minute...

ummm...like excuse me and stuff, please find where i said you went....please see below and return to reading skills school

listen super hero.....if you went w/ him and missed a mismatched sideskirt, shitty paint, and a leaky tranny then id damn well say take someone with you who knows what the fuck is going on

see what i mean, IF (a conjunction, meaning "in case that; granting or supposing; on condition that") you were the one that went with him....

and you wanna talk about sub par reading skills....looks like you can build some decent shit and thats about it, i wouldnt call you to help me look at my car, and damn sure wouldnt call you for help on an english exam, genious

95 M3 (picture noob)

Look at all those fucking idiots. No one noticed the side skirts. All of them are stupid.

theyre not stupid, yall are, give people two side by side pictures of each side and ask them to look at em, i can gurantee handfuls of people will be intelligent enough to find the difference.....however, intelligence is not something is apparently overabundant with yourself and your new found friend kerndog.....therefore he got stuck w/ shit and want someone to whipe his ass for him....too bad it will never fucking happen

[kerndog8]

MR. org you have helped this thread 0. Please go play with a Wii.

[Evil Goat]

MR. org you have helped this thread 0. Please go play with a Wii.

get busy fixing that piece you bought and stop worrying about what im doing....i have the intelligence to take someone with me who knows what the fucks up when i purchase vehicles....therefore i wont be spending time whining on the internet like a baby back bitch about my fuck ups


and if by help you mean pleading your argument that you should get something for free, or less than full price from someone you bought a car from who happens to own a body shop then you are correct, dipshit

[Julio]

Do you know how many shop owners buy cars on the side bang up to fix and sell on the side?

Plenty of shops do that.. If there is nothing in writting that says anytime about the paint having some sort of warranty, I dont see why he should do anything.

He PERSONAL OWNER sold you the car.. Not HOT WHEELS THE BUSINESS.

I understand perfectly what you guys are trying to say.. but in reality he doesnt have to help.
The title of this thread should say, I bought a car from JOHN DOE and It sucked !
Not the shop....

But who knows, maybe thanks to this thread he will help out.. BUt he shouldnt.

[kerndog8]

get busy fixing that piece you bought and stop worrying about what im doing....i have the intelligence to take someone with me who knows what the fucks up when i purchase vehicles....therefore i wont be spending time whining on the internet like a baby back bitch about my fuck ups

I am not whining I am HELPING IA by telling people about the paint job that was done at Hot Wheels. I COULD CARE LESS about the paint right now.

Thanks for being useless.

Oh and a pos? What do you drive?

[DinanM3atl]

ummm...like excuse me and stuff, please find where i said you went....please see below and return to reading skills school








see what i mean, IF (a conjunction, meaning "in case that; granting or supposing; on condition that") you were the one that went with him....

and you wanna talk about sub par reading skills....looks like you can build some decent shit and thats about it, i wouldnt call you to help me look at my car, and damn sure wouldnt call you for help on an english exam, genious




theyre not stupid, yall are, give people two side by side pictures of each side and ask them to look at em, i can gurantee handfuls of people will be intelligent enough to find the difference.....however, intelligence is not something is apparently overabundant with yourself and your new found friend kerndog.....therefore you got stuck w/ shit and want someone to whipe your ass for you....too bad it will never fucking happen

There was... a large handful of pictures. If you go look at two pictures and spot the difference you might see it. However I know ALOT of shit about e36 BMWs and I did not notice it at all the handful of times I have seen the car.

Commenting on my english skills. Wow you were suggesting that I should have caught the mistake. Don't play coy and pretend like you were not. I can build a car but don't bring me to inspect it... Interesting comments.

[kerndog8]

Do you know how many shop owners buy cars on the side bang up to fix and sell on the side?

Plenty of shops do that.. If there is nothing in writting that says anytime about the paint having some sort of warranty, I dont see why he should do anything.

He PERSONAL OWNER sold you the car.. Not HOT WHEELS THE BUSINESS.

I understand perfectly what you guys are trying to say.. but in reality he doesnt have to help.
The title of this thread should say, I bought a car from JOHN DOE and It sucked !
Not the shop....

But who knows, maybe thanks to this thread he will help out.. BUt he shouldnt.

Your missing the point I DO NOT CARE ABOUT THE CAR OR WHO IT WAS BOUGHT FROM. Lets pretend I bought the car from YOU. Now when I bought the car from you, you told me that Hot Wheels painted it 6mths ago. Ok now lets go to my post today. I am posting that I bought the car FROM YOU, and that Hot Wheels did a bad paint job. Is that better? My paint job from Hot Wheels sucks!

Better?

[Evil Goat]

There was... a large handful of pictures. If you go look at two pictures and spot the difference you might see it. However I know ALOT of shit about e36 BMWs and I did not notice it at all the handful of times I have seen the car.

Commenting on my english skills. Wow you were suggesting that I should have caught the mistake. Don't play coy and pretend like you were not. I can build a car but don't bring me to inspect it... Interesting comments.

so youre telling me if youre purchasing a car you wouldnt be able to tell that blatantly there were two different side skirts? when i go to purchase a car i look the car over w/ a fine tooth comb, and i wont purchase a car, whether from a dealership or not until i get it in the air, and can actually get some other hands and opinions on the car who have no $$$ interest in it...i havent been fucked yet, and its not about to start happening....like i said, IF you went then you fucked up right along with him....if not then you can ignore the comment b/c obviously you werent there and it doesnt apply to you

[kerndog8]

Again I DO NOT CARE ABOUT THE CAR

This is a post to inform people about the paint job that Hot Wheels did.

I DO NOT WANT ANYTHING IN RETURN






*** Disclaimer -- nothing is wanted to gain from this post other then to inform the community of a paint job done by Hot Wheels**

[Evil Goat]

Your missing the point I DO NOT CARE ABOUT THE CAR OR WHO IT WAS BOUGHT FROM. Lets pretend I bought the car from YOU. Now when I bought the car from you, you told me that Hot Wheels painted it 6mths ago. Ok now lets go to my post today. I am posting that I bought the car FROM YOU, and that Hot Wheels did a bad paint job. Is that better? My paint job from Hot Wheels sucks!

Better?

then state you bought the car from an individual and that the paint sucks....which still makes your argument that much dumber....expecting someone to warranty something you didnt pay for.....


so if i bought a tv from a guy who bought the tv from best buy and it fucks up the next day, should best buy give you a discount on a new tv just b/c of what happened? or should the manufacturer give you a replacement....of course not, same principal here, youre changing what your original bitching was about so that you dont feel so stupid.....too bad its too late for that

[kerndog8]

then state you bought the car from an individual and that the paint sucks....which still makes your argument that much dumber....expecting someone to warranty something you didnt pay for.....

OMG your are such an ignorant ass hat. How many times do I need to post that I DO NOT WANT ANYTHING FROM THIS POST

Maybe one more time?

If I do it one more time will you read it then?



*** Disclaimer -- nothing is wanted to gain from this post other then to inform the community of a paint job done by Hot Wheels**

[Evil Goat]

Again I DO NOT CARE ABOUT THE CAR

This is a post to inform people about the paint job that Hot Wheels did.

I DO NOT WANT ANYTHING IN RETURN






*** Disclaimer -- nothing is wanted to gain from this post other then to inform the community of a paint job done by Hot Wheels**

then change your original post to reflect this so you dont look like more a hairy cunt that you already do

[kerndog8]

then change your original post to reflect this so you dont look like more a hairy cunt that you already do

Why? Where in my first post does it say that I expect a new skirt? Or that I expect a new paint job?

[DinanM3atl]

I don't think he looks like a cunt. Even if I did not know him I would now never take my car to hot wheels. All the positive post are negated from this one.

Owner obviously only cares about the quality of the work if he is making some money on it.

[DinanM3atl]

then change your original post to reflect this so you dont look like more a hairy cunt that you already do

You tell me to read. Sounds like Kern expected him to atleast look at the car. See why the paint is fucked out. Comfirm the incorrect skirt. Maybe offer to get them fixed at a discounted rate or MAYBE free.

I think Jon would prefer a post. Fuck yah Hot Wheels rules, Jon fixed my paint.

Instead he has a negative post. Which more greatly affects the business since it is local.

[Evil Goat]

Everyone says that Hot Wheels does GREAT work. Well apparently they suck at doing work on cars they are selling -- at least this one.

The paint is flaking from the right side skirt (the side that HE REPLACED THE SKIRT), its the WRONG skirt (so I have a driver side sport and a pass side lux -- see pictures below), the door needs re-aligned a tad, the paint on the hood is bubbling, and the rear has a spot that is rough and needs high speed buffed and probably re-cleared.

So I figure what the hell I'll call John he seems to be a good guy! Everyone likes him I am sure that he will want to fix it since he is a GREAT bodyshop!

WRONG!!

After me telling him all of this his response to me is:

"Thats what you get for buying a used car"

thought this was about paint quality?

Being the owner of a body shop and a car that YOU WORKED ON. I would think he would want to take a look at it and possibly fix it for a highly discounted rate or even free since he did all the work. Does he not have a guarantee for any of his paint for customers?:shifty

well there you go....wanting shit for free and a warranty for something you never paid for

Maybe I should have noticed this all before I bought the car and thats my fault but how can the owner of a -- so called -- nice body shop hide all of this information and then refuse to look at it or fix anything by just saying its a used car.

he didnt hide it, you didnt catch it, retard, you yourself even said he wasnt there when you picked up the car, so how the fuck could he have told you about it?

He did a bad job on my car so I can bad mouth him if I want. If he did a good job I would be saying +1 for Hot Wheels. Well he didn't and he wont stand behind his work so he gets this.

Does he not have a guarantee for cars that he paints? If he does how come it does not hold up for this car?

I am glad that you had a good experience with him but I did not.

you bought a fucking car, not a paint job aristotle

I do not care what business you own but I expect EVERY business to stand behind their work. If they do not then it is a bad business. Who's to say I go to him, spend 6k on a FULL paint job and 6mths down the road he wont stand behind it? Because that is what he is doing now.

so youre saying you bought the car and then paid $6k for the paint job? didnt think so......


but hey...who am i to say your posts were just about a shitty paint job?

You tell me to read. Sounds like Kern expected him to atleast look at the car. See why the paint is fucked out. Comfirm the incorrect skirt. Maybe offer to get them fixed at a discounted rate or MAYBE free.

I think Jon would prefer a post. Fuck yah Hot Wheels rules, Jon fixed my paint.

Instead he has a negative post. Which more greatly affects the business since it is local.

heres the problem super hero, he bought a car, NOT A PAINT JOB, from a guy who happens to own a body shop....yet expects anything less than full price to fix it? do you see any logic in that at all? seriously?

[kerndog8]

-1 for Hot Wheels thanks for reading.

I will say that a buyer has assumed risk when an item is being sold "as is", however if the seller is gauged to be familiar with the car (as he was in this case), he should have been more than willing to disclose the little things that would surely vex the owner at a later date. It is fair to say that it would only be a matter of time until you found out about the sideskirt.

Both parties are at fault, but the seller, being a prominent paint shop owner in a very competative industry, should have done something a little more to rectify the situation.

As a result of this thread, one or more members will decide not to take their car to his shop, and that is really what it comes down to. Opportunity cost is a bitch. I'd rather put out a small fire than deal with damage control.

*** Disclaimer -- nothing is wanted to gain from this post other then to inform the community of a paint job done by Hot Wheels**

[Evil Goat]

he didnt rectify it, i wouldnt have, and you know what your spill on ia is gonna do, other than making you look like a dumbass? absolutely nothing

i think youre a giant douschebag for expecting this guy to do anything cheaper than regular price on a car you obviously signed the as is bill of sale for, w. no warranties attached

sounds like to me you wanted a car real fucking bad, bad enough not to wait around for the guy whose name is on the title to talk to him, ask up front would there be any type of warranty associated w/ the fixing of the wreck and the problems with the vehicle, youre expecting one of his employees to know the history of the car and bitching b/c it bit you in the ass, at the end of the day it is you who fucked up, regaurdless of what direction you want to try to take the thread now, and at most the guy is guilty of lying about the paint/quality of the paint, which i wouldnt believe either seeing as how apparently you never talked to the guy...

buying wrecked cars ftl, v.1324182341980238409lollerskatesyoutgotscrewedthi siswhyidontbuywreckedcars

[kerndog8]

Your still talking?


Want to hug it out?

[Hulud]

why is this thread still not locked?

you bought the car after seeing what was wrong with it, your fault

done deal

[kerndog8]

why is this thread still not locked?

you bought the car after seeing what was wrong with it, your fault

done deal

Man the smart people come in waves









*** Disclaimer -- nothing is wanted to gain from this post other then to inform the community of a paint job done by Hot Wheels**

[thinkfast®]

LOL @ BABY BACK BITCH

HEY KERNDOG WHEN DINAN GETS OFF RIDING YOUR NUTS MAYBE YOU WILL REALIZE THIS THREAD WAS A COMPLETE WASTE OF TIME AND DOES NOTHING TO DISCREDIT HOT WHEELS OR JON AS A PERSON AS HIS IMPORT/USED CAR BUSINESS ACCOUNTS FOR ABOUT %000.20 OF HIS SALES LOLOL

THINKFAST SAYS: YOUR ASSED OUT HOMEY

[Bishop]

i dont think you should be saying "a job done by hot wheels". It sounds like it was just an employee or the owner of a shop doing some work on the side. Which has nothing to do with the shop at all. This happens at all shops. Employees will work on cars that they arranged. No money goes to the shop and its usually just one individual working on that car.


Hot Wheels is still a great shop IMO. I would take my car there if i didnt work at a body shop.

[thinkfast®]

HOT WHEELS FTW

[kerndog8]

Which one of the e-thugs are you?

[thinkfast®]

WHO ARE YOU TALKING TO??

THERE IS NO E-THUGGIN GOING ON IN HERE, SO AGAIN, PLEASE LEAVE IT ALONE. THE TOPIC IS DONE, CONCLUSION IS YOU ARE A JACKASS AND SO ARE THE "USED CAR EXPERTS" THAT CONTRIBUTED TO THIS THREAD (THE ONLY ONE BEING YOUR FRIEND DINAN)

THEREFORE PLEASE RUN CARFAX AND HAVE SOMEONE OF CERTIFIED INTELLIGENCE GO WITH YOU ON YOUR NEXT BIG PURCHASE TO HOLD YOUR HAND

XOXO

THINK

[Evil Goat]

wow, i swing by the crib to grab some lunch and this shit is still going....

p.s. kern youre still a douschebag

[kerndog8]

Seriously you guys are still talking? Awesome!


Still have not figured out how to take caps lock off?

[thinkfast®]

NO BUT I FIGURED OUT YOU ARE A COMPLETE FUCKIN IDIOT, I THINK ILL ROLL W/ WHAT I GOT

[Hundo®]

why did you buy a used BMW? especially one that old, thats like asking for problems ;[

[Hulud]

i dont think you should be saying "a job done by hot wheels". It sounds like it was just an employee or the owner of a shop doing some work on the side. Which has nothing to do with the shop at all. This happens at all shops. Employees will work on cars that they arranged. No money goes to the shop and its usually just one individual working on that car.

hooray for some common sense in this thread, too bad the creator just wants to blame this company because apparently the company bought the car and sold it, not the guy

[BTLFED]

BMW Owners are funny.

[Evil Goat]

BMW Owners are funny.

funny queer, not funny haha

[DinanM3atl]

Quoted from another member.... Think while you read!

Buyer beware? Your post may have been relevant (somewhat) in a private party sale, but the seller of the car is also the owner of the bodyshop that did all the paintwork. As Fast5 stated earlier, it would have been much more advantageous to have fixed the problems (which would probably have been of little cost to the shop) then to pull the "As-Is" attitude. Having grown up around my family's business you realize that taking care of your customer's concerns (especially ligitimate ones) is the #1 priority as word tends to spread. This is a public forum that people come to for advice (this subsection being local topic advice) so this thread is very relevant with a user's review of a well known business. Hopefully they can rectify this in the future, otherwise they will lose even more customers.

Why don't you guys understand this? It is a local business that for the sake of getting one more +1 post on bimmerforums they have a bashing. And low and behold some other local guys were less than happy...

Jon told my friend who put on a Vorsteiner CSL Front bumper when asked about why there was a larger gap on the passenger side.

Jon - "The washer fluid bottle is in the way"

BMW Owner - "Did you try to move the bottle?"

Jon - "No, if you feel it is bad bring it back and we will try to fix it"

Hmmmm we will try and fixed it later? What about right now? This is also after he used rivets to attach the bumper to the bumper support. So you can't take off the bumper now and did not reinstall the weatherstripping so you can see all the rivets...

[DinanM3atl]

why did you buy a used BMW? especially one that old, thats like asking for problems ;[

I just bought a 1989 325i e30 BMW and I bet it with 196K runs better than the 350z in your sig. And I know my 1999 M3 with 116K runs better..

300-500K is nothing for BMWs is properly maintained.

[kerndog8]

funny queer, not funny haha

Is that how you make yourself feel good? By making fun of others?

Grow up.

[kendogg]

BMW Owners are funny.

I knew there was a reason I never post here.

[BTLFED]

I just bought a 1989 325i e30 BMW and I bet it with 196K runs better than the 350z in your sig. And I know my 1999 M3 with 116K runs better..

300-500K is nothing for BMWs is properly maintained.

There you fucking go again, being the perfect example of the stereotypical BMW owner. You don't know how well his car runs. It probably runs perfect. Hell, it may have been delivered to the dealership in a covered trailer.

I knew there was a reason I never post here.

Don't you be that guy too. I never once bashed Kerndog8 in this thread, or you, and I only talked shit to Dinan in the top part of this post. I mearly stated that BMW owners are funny. I didn't say whether that was a bad thing or not. Remember the 29034735 page thread on BMWs coming in covered trailers? That was funny.

Don't get so defensive.