I have no idea. I haven't actually played in years. I and a friend used to play almost daily. He runs a golf course down in Melobourne, Fl now. We used to go to TPC-Sawgrass to play a lot when we were in highschool and college. I never played for handicap, though. I never got good. Score averaged around 80-85 per 18. I just played cause it was relaxing. Later, QD.