The clouds parted and God said "Let there be light!!"
FINALLY!
But I must agree APC is getting shafted on this one. They are gettin fined? Another case of the system fucking the system. People didn't HAVE to buy the shit.
The clouds parted and God said "Let there be light!!"
FINALLY!
But I must agree APC is getting shafted on this one. They are gettin fined? Another case of the system fucking the system. People didn't HAVE to buy the shit.
Didn't all of their products have "For Off Road Use Only" on the packages? I would think that this would keep them from being held liable for the products being used on the streets.Originally Posted by HEATON
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My thoughts exactly.. And even if it didn't say that, I believe they would say Check Local Laws or something like that.Originally Posted by Ran Kizama
not sure, some companies say that but others tried to claim their shit was sae/dot approved.Originally Posted by Ran Kizama
how so? i mean it's apc being irresponsible/negligent. i mean would u expect a maker of child car seats to not test their products and say "buy at ur own risk" or if it's known that it's not safe to say "u don't have to buy it?"Originally Posted by HEATON
Don't child car seats have a DOT approved logo? An accessory and a neccesity are two TOTALLY different things. Parents HAVE to have child seats, teens wanting to be cool DONT HAVE to have blue corners lights!Originally Posted by shagwAg3n
lol wow, accessory and necessity are two totally different things? agreed, so basically what ur saying is that something like low profile tires do not need to be dot approved? bc the only reason they exist is to satisfy those that want big ass wheels but don't HAVE to have it. if u agree w/that then ur logic is obviously faulty. if u disagree then how can u say that a company whose main products are tailored to the automotive hobby sector does not have to be responsible enough to make products that are in line with safety specifications set forth by the dot?Originally Posted by HEATON
I don't personally think that they have to meet DOT standards. However, if they don't, then they need to be advertised as such. They could be items used specifically for car shows. In which case, anybody that puts the parts on a street driven vehicle does so at their own risk. Now if APC was selling these as "Street Legal" parts when they were not, then I can see a problem.Originally Posted by shagwAg3n
In the end, I see it all as to how they advertise and promote their products. Not so much on the products themselves.
I don't remember APC ever making low profile tires.. Even if they are tailored to the automotive world, why does that mean things have to be street legal? Is there not a ''Show'' aspect of the auto world? Do we not crowd car shows to look at cars that are not being driven?Originally Posted by shagwAg3n
What your saying is like saying a fast food resturant should take credit for people becoming obeist (sp) because they eat their food.
Just because its out there, doesn't mean its good for you, nor is it right. YES, we can all partake in it, but shouldn't indulge in it.
Why should there be signs on anything saying it is wrong? There only be signs on something that is right.. Bc that's why we as humans and ADULTS are able to judge the difference between right and wrong!
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didn't say they did, was suggesting that tire companies who make low pro tires shouldn't have to make them street legal. and there is a show aspect, but that doesn't give them the right to not clearly mark their products as for off-road use only.Originally Posted by HEATON
well don't they "take credit" as it is? i mean it's not like lawsuits haven't been filed and now there are clear disclaimers that fast food restaurants are not responsible for such. not to mention almost every fast food restaurant out there now voluntarily post up their nutriotional info at every store and on their websites. in this day and age and in the society we live in, u take responsibility to at least protect urself as a business, which once again, is something apc failed to do.Originally Posted by HEATON
why should there be signs? bc unfortunately, we do not live in a world where humans as adults can judge the diff btw right and wrong. hell u give ppl out there WAY too much credit. not to mention the subject we're talkin about involves teenagers, who should be given even less credit for knowing what's right and wrong.Originally Posted by HEATON