Quote Originally Posted by Vteckidd View Post
there is a difference between a soldier going to war and dying vs other soldiers

and

a criminal breaking the law and killing children, and then using those dead children to penalize people who arent criminals
Invoking dead soldiers to make your point is just as much an emotional response as invoking dead children to make your point. The speaker condemned emotional responses and went on to make one himself. Not sure why this is being debated, the speech is captioned. We know exactly what he said. Lol

Your example of penalization is your belief. Anecdotal at best. As a gun owner, I have not been penalized. If me and you and the rest of this forum are equally subject to the same laws, could you explain how you've been penalized or what laws you may be subject to that I'm not?